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Short Introduction of myself and 1st question concering carburator model/typ

Started by rollo1504, March 07, 2017, 08:49:24 AM

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Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

rollo1504

John,

I have read again the small printed area in the ebay link you gave me of the tp linkage

"You are bidding on a complete kick down linkage setup for a 1971 thru 1974 440 and 727 transmission. I bead blasted it and it is in excellent condition, not rusted or bent. It has all the correct clips and washers. No aftermarket washers and cotter pins. This is for a raised block only. If you need one for a low block 383, 400 check my other auction"

I have a 727 transmission, thats ok but I am a little bit concerned about the "This is for raised block only. If you need one for a low block 383, 400...."

So will this linkage then fit to my 400 engine.... Hope yes as I already ordered it ....  :shruggy:


rollo1504

Quote from: John_Kunkel on March 09, 2017, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: rollo1504 on March 08, 2017, 05:57:53 PM
If I order the 20-7 Mopar throttle lever extension will I also need the Carb throttle stud?

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetor_components/brackets_and_linkage/parts/20-67

Yes, but this one is more correct:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-74-Mopar-318-340-360-383-440-4-Barrel-Automatic-Throttle-Cable-Linkage-Stud-/381962646367

And you'll need one of these:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/70-78-Mopar-A-B-E-Body-Cuda-340-383-440-426-Hemi-Throttle-Cable-Lever-Stud-Nut-/401278033804



Quite expensive shipment costs.....

Can you please check following website (this shop is located in Germany and the shipment costs are much less than from the U.S)


1. http://store.moparshop.de/Produktkategorien/Luft-Benzin/
2. Dropdown menu "Part-Type" --> Throttle Lever Studs

In there you will find several different Linkage studs incl. english description....

Can you please do me a favor and check these out... maybe with a little bit luck one of them will fit   ::)   There is also a linkage stud nut....

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UPDATE:
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Found these 2 parts in the shop mentioned above:

http://store.moparshop.de/Produktkategorien/Luft-Benzin/Carburetor-Linkage-Stud-Nut-1966-Early-1970.html
http://store.moparshop.de/Produktkategorien/Luft-Benzin/Carburetor-Linkage-Stud-Late-1969-74-Auto-340-6-All-NOT-71-73-340.html

I assume these 2 parts will also be fine aren't they?

Thank you John

Troy

Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.


Troy

Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.


Troy

Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

rollo1504


ACUDANUT


rollo1504

Quote from: ACUDANUT on March 09, 2017, 07:25:21 PM
the carb is too small, You need a 750
nice car

Maybe..... but for now I don't want to think about replacing the carb... first of all I want to get this thing running.... But thank you for this info... I will keep this in mind.

Roland

Nacho-RT74

Two things...

I noticed you have a miles speedo... let me know if you are interested on becoming on kilometers speedo. Have the parts for it.

Also it seems your gas pedal got missed the plastic plug whats keeps the throttle wire in place and used a cable tie to fill the hole. I MAY have one plastic plug, somewhere. If not, many somewhere can grabb someone from any junkyard around. Can't tell if that is being sold new piece somewhere
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

rollo1504

Thanks Nacho...

I will think about the Speedo later as there is aaaa loooot work to do before this... but will keep it also in mind....

Is there anywhere a picture available from the gas pedal environment to see how it SHOULD look like and tell me hows the correct english word for it to be able to have a look in the web for it?

Roland

PS: Nacho.... please have a look for the plastic plug if you can find it. If you find one tell me the price for the km speedo through PM :-)

Nacho-RT74

Aaand, as I told you on the other thread about the belts/pulleys set up, I'd try to get the non AC pulleys setup to relocate the alt and run belts correctly. The alt location you have right now with bracket on rear, will cause too many vibrations on alt as the engine increases RPM and could break the alt bolt
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

rollo1504

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 10, 2017, 07:02:20 AM
Aaand, as I told you, I'd try to get the non AC pulleys setup to relocate the alt and run belts correctly. The alt location you have right now with bracket on rear, will cause too many vibrations on alt as the engine increases RPM and could break the alt bolt

OK... obviously another very important thing to do....

Do some webshops offer a whole AC pulley setup or do I need separate parts?.... As I am still a complete noob I would really need a parts list or some links.... otherwise I am completely lost

Many many thanks

Roland

XH29N0G

If you do not already have a copy of the factory service manual (paper or electronic - it might be possible to find on the internet), you should get that.  It can have some of the pictures or diagrams you seek.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

rollo1504

Quote from: XH29N0G on March 10, 2017, 07:08:01 AM
If you do not already have a copy of the factory service manual (paper or electronic - it might be possible to find on the internet), you should get that.  It can have some of the pictures or diagrams you seek.

I have the 73 charger service manual as digital copy...

Roland

Nacho-RT74

Here you can download the body and chassis manuals for 73

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1973_Dodge_Body_Service_Manual.zip

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1973_Dodge_Chassis_Service_Manual.zip

Althought I use to hate digital stuff and preffer the paper versions being sold as repro too around. You can print this zips out though

About pulleys setup I think the first you can do is search for reference pics from 73/74 BB cars ( not earliers ) without air, then you'll know the system, what you'll have and what you'll need.

Usually, water pump pulley and crank pulley changes, however MAYBE you still can live with your actual crank pulley. Same as I think you still can live the existant alt bracket. Both could be changed just for correctness. Will need the bolt and spacers matching the alt bracket, althought usually these are being sold as a full set and you choose which ones to use according with your setup.

Note about the kilo speedo. I'm not selling a full Kilo speedo but the parts for the conversion because the speedo extra I got was damaged. Face decals are available around BUT is not just the face but the odometer/counter which changes allong with two gears.

Check on for sale section, is there.

About the plug. Give me couple of months. My car is completely dissasembled and I want to be sure won't find out parts are missed and will have to use my spares.

There is something wrong with your throttle wire at firewall and pedals assembly though, which is not just the cable tie being used
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

The alt you are using is a bit wider than the ones used on those years. Maybe couple of mms. Once you fit everything as must be probably will find the back of alt meets with block on rear bearing area. This is easy to save with a bit longer belt able to get you the alt pivoted further out.

I know why I talk about ;)
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Here is how must look the acelerator pedal assembly! Is funny how the piece was cut from the firewall LOL.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/111775805597?_mwBanner=1

The wire looks loosen from the pedal link just because is not being pulled out from the engine side. I think you can notice the plastic plug there. AS FAR I RECALL Is like a plastic pin into a plastic ring or washer what spreads out once pin is inserted like a rivet to keep every in place
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html


rollo1504

I will ask someone directly from the shop... I am pretty confident that they can tell me with nut is the right one....

Roland

rollo1504

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 10, 2017, 10:06:12 AM
Here you can download the body and chassis manuals for 73

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1973_Dodge_Body_Service_Manual.zip

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1973_Dodge_Chassis_Service_Manual.zip

Althought I use to hate digital stuff and preffer the paper versions being sold as repro too around. You can print this zips out though

About pulleys setup I think the first you can do is search for reference pics from 73/74 BB cars ( not earliers ) without air, then you'll know the system, what you'll have and what you'll need.

Usually, water pump pulley and crank pulley changes, however MAYBE you still can live with your actual crank pulley. Same as I think you still can live the existant alt bracket. Both could be changed just for correctness. Will need the bolt and spacers matching the alt bracket, althought usually these are being sold as a full set and you choose which ones to use according with your setup.

Note about the kilo speedo. I'm not selling a full Kilo speedo but the parts for the conversion because the speedo extra I got was damaged. Face decals are available around BUT is not just the face but the odometer/counter which changes allong with two gears.

Check on for sale section, is there.

About the plug. Give me couple of months. My car is completely dissasembled and I want to be sure won't find out parts are missed and will have to use my spares.

There is something wrong with your throttle wire at firewall and pedals assembly though, which is not just the cable tie being used

Thanks for the links... Already downloaded... Will read and try to understand as far as possible....

Do not hurry with the plug... Take your time... I am pretty sure in a couple of months I am still working on my car as well and will face other new upcoming problems for sure....

The time will come when its necessary to concern about it....

There is still my other question concerning the throttle linkage.... -> Am I allowed to start the engine and let it run? I will not drive... just want to hear if motor starts, check timing, pressure, carb etc..... Or is it forbidden to start and idling the engine without the linkage as the tranny might get damaged????

Thanks

Nacho-RT74

Maybe I could give you personally the plug! I have being telling this year will move to Spain since EVER. But I don't think will take longer than this summer ( dunno if with my Charger or maybe that will be later )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html