Whats a fair price on this one?

[Cncguy]

This Charger was put on eBay by Blueline classics. It is a 318 car that needs extensive interior work, New decals, and the correct wheels. It could also use a big block. I have offered $27,000 which he says isn't a fair price. In the past year I have seen nice big block cars go for $41k or under. So what do you guys think? Is it worth $38,900?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302213869666

[qwick68]

Wow, we'll I'm no expert but ill give my opinion....if you want a replica GL this one needs a ton f work to make a "correct" replica, wheels, interior, push bar etc, if you want a "stockish" charger it still needs a lot of work, IMO your looking at a driver quality car for now, yea paint is nice and shiney but what's underneath? I think your offer was more than fair, good luck

[lukedukem]

your offer of 27k was too much. The car needs to much, whether a general lee or not, and for that price it should have a big block. here is what is needing attention:

THIS CAR RUNS, STOPS, AND STEERS. WE ARE SELLING THE CAR AS A RUNNING AND DRIVING CAR THAT WILL NEED A FEW TWEAKS TO BE COMPLETELY, FINISHED SUCH AS: INTERIOR IS PRESENTABLE BUT NEEDS TO BE FINISHED CORRECTLY TO BE SHOW QUALITY. WILL NEED A HEADLINER, NEEDS THE CORRECT SEATS (THE CURRENT SEATS ARE JUST OLD BUCKET SEATS WITH COVERS), NEEDS A FEW SMALL MISC TRIM PIECES (CHARGER EMBLEMS AND 1 REAR WINDOW TRIM PIECE), NEEDS HOOD MARKER LIGHTS, MISSING ONE BACKUP LIGHT LENS, BUMPERS ARE ORIGINALS AND ARE SOLID DRIVER QUALITY, HEADLIGHTS MUST BE OPENED AND CLOSED MANUALLY. WIRING IS ORIGINAL AND APPEARS TO BE SAFE BUT WILL NEED A FEW THINGS FIXED: ALL GAUGES AND CLOCK NOT WORKING - I WOULD REPLACE WITH AFTERMARKET GAUGES. YOU CAN DRIVE AS IS AND DO ALL THE FINISHING AS YOU GO! WE PRICED THIS CAR AFFORDABLY FOR THE NEXT PERSON WHO BUYS IT TO FINISH WITH THEIR PERSONAL TOUCHES.

For that price these things should work, general lee or not.

Luke

[alfaitalia]

It's a dealer sale so of course it's too much.......! Pity it's a 318 but it looks ok...especially compared to some of what had been offered in the "delusional sellers" thread lately. As much as I hate to say it someone will probably pay that for a turn key driver. You could buy a project for half that but then what value do you place on the lost years of your life while you build her up?! Location will come into it too....here in the UK that would already be sold...I'm sure value must vary State to State in a country as huge as yours.

[chargerboy69]

It was more than fair offer for that car.

I am surprised some dope did not hit the buy it now already on it considering Generals, even bad Generals bring top dollar.

[Mike DC]

  

It's a dealer sale so of course it's too much.......!

This.

Tell him a 'fair price' is whatever matches up with the rest of the market, not whatever is enough to make him a profit.

[RECHRGD]

It's a $15k car with $24k worth of orange paint IMO......

[Lennard]

For the price they're asking they can't even screw in the back up lights and mount the front bumperettes?

[MoparMotel]

Your offer of 27k was too much, I would say $20k 

[928007]

wow there are so many things just in the pictures that look terrible i can't even imagine what else you will find in person. don't buy it

[Mytur Binsdirti]

All that parts car has got going for it is a shiny paint job. I say $2,500.00.

[TeeWJay426]

Be glad he turned down your offer of 27K. You would have gotten screwed at that price. Is this HLPAG in disguise?

[Sublime/Sixpack]

This Charger was put on eBay by Blueline classics. It is a 318 car that needs extensive interior work, New decals, and the correct wheels. It could also use a big block. I have offered $27,000 which he says isn't a fair price. In the past year I have seen nice big block cars go for $41k or under. So what do you guys think? Is it worth $38,900?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302213869666

Your offer for $27,000 was much too generous in my opinion. The seller states that it needs a few tweaks. Ask him to define "tweak". Based on the mediocre photos, the body and paint look pretty good but who knows what is really under that paint? The interior and engine bay look like crap! There's so much that isn't right about this car, how can you trust anything this guy puts in print. Profit is what drives people like this. It's all about the money.

[charger01]

I spy old style replacement quarters with wide lips.  shoulda trimmed those up.

[JR]

A whole lot of "nope" going on with this one.

[Bronzedodge]

Long shackles 

[cbrestorations]

Is it just me or does the rebel flag look smaller than normal? Width wise

[XS29LA47V21]

All that parts car has got going for it is a shiny paint job. I say $2,500.00.

  I do not always agree with Mr Dirti's candid perspectives, but when I do.... holly marcel he is right....likely not far off after you redo and fix everything...

[hemi-hampton]

Your offer of 27k was too much, I would say $20k  

I think you are both to Generous. Take the roof flag & 01 off the car & what do you have. Just a plain old 318 car needing lots of work. To me it looks like one of those Perfume on a Pig cars. Just slap some nice shiny paint on the POS & ask big bucks. Slap the Flag & 01 on it & ask even more big bucks   $15k is more realistic in my opinion & that's being Generous. LEON.

[VegasCharger]

Is it just me or does the rebel flag look smaller than normal? Width wise

Yea it looks smaller compared to this 1st pic.
2nd pic is from the eBay listing.

[Dino]

They couldn't even get the decals right!   

I wouldn't touch that car with a 10 foot pole. I smell a money pit, a bottomless one.

[F8-4life]

The only thing crazier then him & his askng price..is the overseas dude that will gladly pay him.

[tan top]

what the other guys say  


sorry man look for another car !!    I know every one tries to make money on their car when they sell , & good luck to everyone    but !
I would not even buy this ! even if it was 5k ,    it has that perfumed pig look going on  , although not as bad as some / most  , ...   ,  I would not buy it full stop  

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[Kern Dog]

I don't think that this car looks all that bad until you see the price. The paint does shine, the panels are aligned no worse than an untouched version too. Sure, the black engine bay, underside and trunk look like shit. Maybe if the goal was to look like an actual TV version they are halfway there. The taillight panel looks odd with the trim missing around the taillight lenses and no blackout. The leaf spring shackles, the wrong wheels, the Belvedere rear seat, the missing headliner, radio, wrong front seats, aged guages, poor dash appearance...
For that asking price, the car should be complete at the least. It should also at least be a 383 with the the correct 10 spoke wheels.

[NHCharger]

Is this HLPAG in disguise?

That's what I was thinking.

[alfaitalia]

The only thing crazier then him & his askng price..is the overseas dude that will gladly pay him.

....LOL....that's because the crazy overseas dude (me I'm guessing!!) would have to pay almost $20,000 ish just for an engine-less almost rust free shell in the UK.

....or this for just over $11000...............            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302161654077?nma=true&si=8o8R1ZOGpoFgos%2BrIwtALH7fOXU%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true        scroll down to see the lovely white example I'm referring too !

[INTMD8]

sorry man look for another car !!    I know every one tries to make money on their car when they sell , & good luck to everyone    but !
I would not even buy this ! even if it was 5k ,    it has that perfumed pig look going on  , although not as bad as some / most  , ...   ,  I would not buy it full stop  

Agreed 100%

[Cncguy]

Thanks for all the replies. I forwarded this link to the seller.

[Cncguy]

This is what he said:

New message: OK. Obviously you think it's too much...


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OK. Obviously you think it's too much. I'm really not sure why you keep criticizing us and our car/price. For every critic we have 100 fans and followers. Just please don't bother to make offers if you think we are shady or overpriced. We're honest, straight forward, and stand by what we advertise. We have a pretty stellar reputation in the classic car community from local auctions all the way to to Amelia Island with some concourse cars and have some pretty high credentials if you research our company. We are not getting rich doing this despite what some others apparently may think. They aren't marked up much from what we have in them that's why we average selling 10 cars a month (and we only stock 10-12 at a time). Probably one of the highest turnarounds from any dealer you will ever find. I'm pretty confident in our business, our abilities, and our reputation. If you think we are overpriced that's fine then just please look elsewhere. There's a reason that there are 129 watchers within a week on eBay. If we had the time I'd finish the car the way I would like to and ask 20k + higher like everyone else but we are swamped with restoration projects right now. I truly wish you the best of luck in your search but I'm sorry I cannot accept thousands less than what we already have in the car. If you can find one this clean under the 30k mark that you only think it's worth more power to ya! I wish you luck! As they say "keep it between the ditches!"
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[JR]

That was a classy response on the seller's part, I can't fault him there.

Just move on and find a better Charger to buy OP. Someone overseas will happily pay the price for this one. Life goes on.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

 I read his response, and I don't feel impressed by it (not that my opinion necessarily means anything). I understand people like this but I do not relate to them.
If I ran a restoration type shop, I'd want every car that left to be a quality vehicle! If I couldn't deliver on that, I'd take on fewer projects. But that's me.
I realize people running a business need to make a profit. But to some, pride in workmanship and quality of the finished product is at least as high on their priority list as making a profit. 

[charger Downunder]

Trunk seal says it all top and sides placed in the wrong spot. Run forest run.

[Y1CHARGER]

Trunk seal says it all top and sides placed in the wrong spot. Run forest run.

At least you'll be able to check the rail number without lifting the weatherstripping 

[Cncguy]

I'm passing on this one, I'll keep looking.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

Good decision.

[Hemi Guy]

If you're going to buy one try to get one that's already done or close to it. Let someone else take the loss! You can easily spend 50-60k to restore one to driver quality just based on what the parts (reproduction and original parts) cost nowadays. A concourse resto could hit 100k. Heck, I just paid $890 for vent window assemblies that are far from perfect for a 69 I'm restoring. I've restored around 20 B bodies. I've bought basket cases for 15k and next think you know you can have $50,000 in the car before you even have a paint job or an engine built. Gone are the days of a $25,000 68-69 charger that's half way decent. I'd have to say if you can get the one that's on eBay now for 35 ish its probably a pretty decent price compared to the $60,000-$80,000 General Lees advertised every where else. Personally I don't care for the General Lee thing but to each his own.  Some guy in Chicago builds the 318 cars starting at 50,000 and up depending on the options. I don't know how negotiable this guy is but I haven't seen many that are much cheaper that look this nice even though it needs some TLC. If this car were here in Texas it probably wouldn't last too long at a swap meet or car show at that price. I'm a but surprised it hasn't sold yet. I haven't seen too many priced under 50k that are even worth looking at. At least this dealer seems to be honest and has some pretty good credibility. I checked them out. They've done some pretty bad ass rides. Supposedly they own the original Sanford and Son Truck too.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

It's a $15k car with $24k worth of orange paint IMO......

Yep, a $15k car w/ a bunch of hype and incorrect "tribute" parts 

[Cncguy]

If you're going to buy one try to get one that's already done or close to it. Let someone else take the loss! You can easily spend 50-60k to restore one to driver quality just based on what the parts (reproduction and original parts) cost nowadays. A concourse resto could hit 100k. Heck, I just paid $890 for vent window assemblies that are far from perfect for a 69 I'm restoring. I've restored around 20 B bodies. I've bought basket cases for 15k and next think you know you can have $50,000 in the car before you even have a paint job or an engine built. Gone are the days of a $25,000 68-69 charger that's half way decent. I'd have to say if you can get the one that's on eBay now for 35 ish its probably a pretty decent price compared to the $60,000-$80,000 General Lees advertised every where else. Personally I don't care for the General Lee thing but to each his own.  Some guy in Chicago builds the 318 cars starting at 50,000 and up depending on the options. I don't know how negotiable this guy is but I haven't seen many that are much cheaper that look this nice even though it needs some TLC. If this car were here in Texas it probably wouldn't last too long at a swap meet or car show at that price. I'm a but surprised it hasn't sold yet. I haven't seen too many priced under 50k that are even worth looking at. At least this dealer seems to be honest and has some pretty good credibility. I checked them out. They've done some pretty bad ass rides. Supposedly they own the original Sanford and Son Truck too.

Wow! It's as if you work for Blueline classics. 1 post?

[moparnation74]

If you're going to buy one try to get one that's already done or close to it. Let someone else take the loss! You can easily spend 50-60k to restore one to driver quality just based on what the parts (reproduction and original parts) cost nowadays. A concourse resto could hit 100k. Heck, I just paid $890 for vent window assemblies that are far from perfect for a 69 I'm restoring. I've restored around 20 B bodies. I've bought basket cases for 15k and next think you know you can have $50,000 in the car before you even have a paint job or an engine built. Gone are the days of a $25,000 68-69 charger that's half way decent. I'd have to say if you can get the one that's on eBay now for 35 ish its probably a pretty decent price compared to the $60,000-$80,000 General Lees advertised every where else. Personally I don't care for the General Lee thing but to each his own.  Some guy in Chicago builds the 318 cars starting at 50,000 and up depending on the options. I don't know how negotiable this guy is but I haven't seen many that are much cheaper that look this nice even though it needs some TLC. If this car were here in Texas it probably wouldn't last too long at a swap meet or car show at that price. I'm a but surprised it hasn't sold yet. I haven't seen too many priced under 50k that are even worth looking at. At least this dealer seems to be honest and has some pretty good credibility. I checked them out. They've done some pretty bad ass rides. Supposedly they own the original Sanford and Son Truck too.

Wow! It's as if you work for Blueline classics. 1 post?

Not to mention the first post  Registered today around 4pm

[Hemi Guy]

Man, tough crowd! Just joined today and read the newest post I saw and made a comment. I guess until I have 2000 posts I have no credibility? Just giving my two cents. I joined to see what's out there. Not to be bashed. No I'm not a dealer. Thanks for the welcome aboard but I'll just stay away from this one

[Lennard]

If I ran a restoration type shop, I'd want every car that left to be a quality vehicle! If I couldn't deliver on that, I'd take on fewer projects. But that's me.
I realize people running a business need to make a profit. But to some, pride in workmanship and quality of the finished product is at least as high on their priority list as making a profit. 

Exactly! 

[Cncguy]

Man, tough crowd! Just joined today and read the newest post I saw and made a comment. I guess until I have 2000 posts I have no credibility? Just giving my two cents. I joined to see what's out there. Not to be bashed. No I'm not a dealer. Thanks for the welcome aboard but I'll just stay away from this one

My sincere apologies if I was incorrect on my assessment. It was just odd that being first post and almost in defense of the seller.

[moparnation74]

Man, tough crowd! Just joined today and read the newest post I saw and made a comment. I guess until I have 2000 posts I have no credibility? Just giving my two cents. I joined to see what's out there. Not to be bashed. No I'm not a dealer. Thanks for the welcome aboard but I'll just stay away from this one

My sincere apologies if I was incorrect on my assessment. It was just odd that being first post and almost in defense of the seller.

Future postings will tell all....

[hemi-hampton]

I read his response, and I don't feel impressed by it (not that my opinion necessarily means anything). I understand people like this but I do not relate to them.
If I ran a restoration type shop, I'd want every car that left to be a quality vehicle! If I couldn't deliver on that, I'd take on fewer projects. But that's me.
I realize people running a business need to make a profit. But to some, pride in workmanship and quality of the finished product is at least as high on their priority list as making a profit.  

And where would you find customers that want to pay the big money for a High Quality High $$ Restoration? LEON.



Correction, I should of said quality instead of high quality, Disregard my High $$ Restoration. I meant not so high $$ restoration. my mistake

[Sublime/Sixpack]

I read his response, and I don't feel impressed by it (not that my opinion necessarily means anything). I understand people like this but I do not relate to them.
If I ran a restoration type shop, I'd want every car that left to be a quality vehicle! If I couldn't deliver on that, I'd take on fewer projects. But that's me.
I realize people running a business need to make a profit. But to some, pride in workmanship and quality of the finished product is at least as high on their priority list as making a profit. 

And where would you find customers that want to pay the big money for a High Quality High $$ Restoration? LEON.

And your point is?

[hemi-hampton]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.  LEON.

[Mike DC]

 
I don't care how reputable the shop might be.  The GL in this thread was still slammed together on the cheap just to sell it.  It's obvious.  The best thing about the car appears to be the shiny new paintjob and we have no idea what's underneath that.

[Tjader]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.  LEON.

Interesting, I was thinking just the same. Is it even possible for a shop to do a high-quality resto on a plain 318-Charger and still make some profit? I beleive it's not... That does not mean that the price they are asking in this case is fair, but it's still interesting. I bought a plain 318 charger, that was "restored" (judging by the pics simular to the one we are diskussing here). It had a nice paint job, but also a 440, and nice interior. Since I bought it (for quite a lot of Money) I have over the years spent nearly 20 000 USD to make it more than just a crappy car with a nice paint job. I have done this for the love of the hobby and the love of my Charger, but from an economic Point of view it's a disaster. I will never get my Money back, since no matter what I do it's still a plain 318-car. Luckily I'm not in it for the Money  . Now, there's not so much left to do on the car, so today I Believe I can estimate the remaining costs to get to a real nice car, and when I do that and add the Money I have already spent (including buying the car) the total cost will probably be somewhere around 55 000 USD. I do almost Everything myself, and for the things I need help with I'm well connected so I pay only minimal Money. I do live in Sweden, so about 30% of the total is probably taxes and shipping costs that you guys in the states don't have. And I know I overpaid for the car (I had never even seen a Charger up Close Before so I had nothing to compare with), but still.... If I deduct the 30% for taxes and shipping and 5000 USD from the price I paid for the car, it's still roughly  38 000 USD. And then there is no costs for all the hours spent, and trust me, there are a lot of those involved in my car . As you see, the costs by far exceed what anyone is willing to pay for a non numbers matching 318-car. For a shop, this would be the end of their business. For a dedicated idiot like my self, it's fun and I get the car exactly the way I want it.

[Dino]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.  LEON.

Interesting, I was thinking just the same. Is it even possible for a shop to do a high-quality resto on a plain 318-Charger and still make some profit? I beleive it's not... That does not mean that the price they are asking in this case is fair, but it's still interesting. I bought a plain 318 charger, that was "restored" (judging by the pics simular to the one we are diskussing here). It had a nice paint job, but also a 440, and nice interior. Since I bought it (for quite a lot of Money) I have over the years spent nearly 20 000 USD to make it more than just a crappy car with a nice paint job. I have done this for the love of the hobby and the love of my Charger, but from an economic Point of view it's a disaster. I will never get my Money back, since no matter what I do it's still a plain 318-car. Luckily I'm not in it for the Money  . Now, there's not so much left to do on the car, so today I Believe I can estimate the remaining costs to get to a real nice car, and when I do that and add the Money I have already spent (including buying the car) the total cost will probably be somewhere around 55 000 USD. I do almost Everything myself, and for the things I need help with I'm well connected so I pay only minimal Money. I do live in Sweden, so about 30% of the total is probably taxes and shipping costs that you guys in the states don't have. And I know I overpaid for the car (I had never even seen a Charger up Close Before so I had nothing to compare with), but still.... If I deduct the 30% for taxes and shipping and 5000 USD from the price I paid for the car, it's still roughly  38 000 USD. And then there is no costs for all the hours spent, and trust me, there are a lot of those involved in my car . As you see, the costs by far exceed what anyone is willing to pay for a non numbers matching 318-car. For a shop, this would be the end of their business. For a dedicated idiot like my self, it's fun and I get the car exactly the way I want it.

Don't be too hard on yourself. Lots of dedicated idiots here.   

I worked in resto and a lot of the cars you do are high priced gems so it's worth doing the work, but make no mistake there are a lot of customers who are just wanting their plain jane ride redone. We can tell them a thousand times that the cost of the resto will exceed its value ten-fold, they still want the work done. Sentimental value trumps resale value. A business in it to sell cars however can't afford a resto, it just doesn't make any economical sense.

[alfaitalia]

Yep.....mine will cost far more than its worth....and as a resto mod the collectors wont be interested so the value will never be that great. I don't care....its just for me...then my son and hopefully one day his kids!! At least I don't have to worry about washers being the same thickness or grommets being the same shade of black!!

[Mike DC]

  
If hand-rebuilding cars out of 50yo junk was profitable then the factories wouldn't be using brand new parts on assembly lines.  

Most restorations are big money losers when you do things right.  It's not a mistake when they lose money, it's the correct outcome.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.  LEON.

You're way off track! Did you even attempt to accurately read what I posted? Apparently you missed my point completely!
You quoted my post in which I used the term "quality" once. Then you respond with "big money", "High Quality", and "High $$ Restoration". THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS NOT MINE.
This is exactly why I don't spend a lot of time of sites like this. All too often people don't take the time to clearly or accurately read a persons post. Instead, they just skim over it then make assumptions and draw their own conclusions on what the person was actually trying to put across. Then they go off on a tangent, then others join in, and there goes the original thought.

You went on and on about this being a plain 318 2bbl car, and state that maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time and money to do a high quality restoration. Blah, blah, blah.
Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything about performing a "high quality restoration".  I did use the term "quality", (not high quality, not big money, not high $$ restoration) once in trying to put my point across. You took the word "quality" and ran with it.

I suggest you read my original post again and try to grasp the thought I was trying to put across.

Just for the record, I don't run a restoration or any type of auto. repair business, nor would I want to! I'm in the hobby not to make money, but because I have a passion for cars, always have.  I own a small collection of vehicles and do most of my own work, and take pride in the work I do. I seldom sell anything but if and when I do sell, I don't misrepresent what I'm selling.

I could spend more time on this and go into more detail but I suspect it would be futile.

[hemi-hampton]

Here's part of your quote below. I have no idea what your trying to say here, can you elaborate or be more specific?

"If I ran a restoration type shop, I'd want every car that left to be a quality vehicle! If I couldn't deliver on that, I'd take on fewer projects. But that's me."


2 Questions

#1 Why wouldn't you be able to deliver a quality vehicle?
#2 I'd take on fewer Projects? What does this mean? if you had fewer projects you would then be able to do a quality vehicle?

Confused

[crj1968]

Quality is a relative term...acceptable and safe might be a better term

I think he's referring to a "quality vehicle" without doing a rotisserie resto and scouring the planet for "correct" NOS parts....you know trailer queen type stuff.

If I was to tear my 383 car down for that kind of resto it surely wouldn't be a for profit type of deal.  I've got just over $20K in it just to be a decent and safe driver. To just get it where I want it without taking it apart I still need to throw another $5K at it and then there's body and paint ! 

[moparnation74]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.  LEON.

You're way off track! Did you even attempt to accurately read what I posted? Apparently you missed my point completely!
You quoted my post in which I used the term "quality" once. Then you respond with "big money", "High Quality", and "High $$ Restoration". THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS NOT MINE.
This is exactly why I don't spend a lot of time of sites like this. All too often people don't take the time to clearly or accurately read a persons post. Instead, they just skim over it then make assumptions and draw their own conclusions on what the person was actually trying to put across. Then they go off on a tangent, then others join in, and there goes the original thought.

You went on and on about this being a plain 318 2bbl car, and state that maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time and money to do a high quality restoration. Blah, blah, blah.
Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything about performing a "high quality restoration".  I did use the term "quality", (not high quality, not big money, not high $$ restoration) once in trying to put my point across. You took the word "quality" and ran with it.

I suggest you read my original post again and try to grasp the thought I was trying to put across.

Just for the record, I don't run a restoration or any type of auto. repair business, nor would I want to! I'm in the hobby not to make money, but because I have a passion for cars, always have.  I own a small collection of vehicles and do most of my own work, and take pride in the work I do. I seldom sell anything but if and when I do sell, I don't misrepresent what I'm selling.

I could spend more time on this and go into more detail but I suspect it would be futile.

It would be futile.....I understood your post and the point you tried to make........

[chargerperson]

Yep.....mine will cost far more than its worth....and as a resto mod the collectors wont be interested so the value will never be that great. I don't care....its just for me...then my son and hopefully one day his kids!! At least I don't have to worry about washers being the same thickness or grommets being the same shade of black!!

I did the same, resto modded a car but kept it original looking with a few NOS parts.  Undoubtedly spent more than it is worth but the car is exactly what I wanted.

[hemi-hampton]

"I suggest you read my original post again and try to grasp the thought I was trying to put across."

Now your jumping to wrong conclusion. I never did skim over your post, instead I read it over & over 3-4 times & still could not understand what you were trying to say. And now went back again a few times & still don't know? Instead of me trying to grasp the thought you were trying to put across, what don't you just spell it out clearly instead of me trying to decifer what you meant

[INTMD8]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.   LEON.

Just because it's a GL doesn't mean it can't be done well.  (though I would not drive one myself).  

Doesn't really matter if it started life as a 318 car, there's no reason an engine swap couldn't take place on a non-original car.  

In my opinion this was just quickly scraped together with low regard to anything, just to make a (nearly) complete shiny car.

On the other end of the spectrum you have a perfectly restored Charger with desirable options.

This could have had an engine swap and put together somewhere in the middle to where it would still be considered a decent car but not built with a blank check budget.

[INTMD8]

double post

[hemi-hampton]

Point is you would not be doing any quality restorations, because nobody wants to pay for it. Or not many.  This is just a plain 318 2bbl Charger, Do you really think somebody is going to spend alot of time & money to do a high quality restoration on just a plain 318 2bbl car. Maybe if it was a R/T Hemi car it would be worth the time & money to do a high quality restoration but not this 318 car.   LEON.

Just because it's a GL doesn't mean it can't be done well.  (though I would not drive one myself).  

Doesn't really matter if it started life as a 318 car, there's no reason an engine swap couldn't take place on a non-original car.  

In my opinion this was just quickly scraped together with low regard to anything, just to make a (nearly) complete shiny car.

On the other end of the spectrum you have a perfectly restored Charger with desirable options.

This could have had an engine swap and put together somewhere in the middle to where it would still be considered a decent car but not built with a blank check budget.

Your Absolutely right, I agree 100%. like I said in earlier post car looked like Perfume on a Pig with shiny paint & seller wanted to much. For what seller wants it should be nice or nicer. There are lots of people that put $50k (some $100k+) into a car that's worth less then that when done. But a Car Dealer is not going to sell a car for less then what he has into it. Dealers specialize in Perfume on a Pig cars. That's why I would never buy from a Dealer. I still have no idea what that other guy was trying to say? LEON.

[darbgnik]

 
I don't care how reputable the shop might be.  The GL in this thread was still slammed together on the cheap just to sell it.  It's obvious.  The best thing about the car appears to be the shiny new paintjob and we have no idea what's underneath that.

This point always makes me wonder, if you're spending money on doing a paint job correctly, ie. replace/repair what's underneath, why not spend a few minutes documenting what you did? Every time I see a shiny new paintjob, I always wonder what's underneath.

I honestly believe the most valuable single part of my car is the photo album of it being painted. Easy for anyone to see what they're getting. No guessing necessary. I see so many cars for sale, quoting complete resto etc, with nary a one picture of said resto. Skip to the next add....

[hemi-hampton]

I got tons of pictures of most of my resto's. LEON.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Bottom line is that it's a complete waste of a good parts car.