Need 440 disassembly help

[lukedukem]

I recently purchased a 1969 Superbee that had no engine or trans for it, but when i did the guy threw this 440 in on the deal, along with a A833. it was sitting outside and ants had made a home inside it, especially the bell housing. i need help taking this thing apart. as you can see from the pics its a 68 HP 440. i finally got it into my shop, and i was starting to take it apart but ran into issues. in the fourth pic, i have removed the exhaust bolts but can not find the last one. is it the one that goes through the housing. if so, it is badly corroded. how can this be removed safely? i have never used factory manifolds, just headers.

Luke

[lukedukem]

Here are some more pics of this thing

Luke

[lukedukem]

My goal here is to see if this thing can be used. Then since the super bee was a 383 with auto from the factory, i would take the 383 (69 dated) and auto from my 69 charger and put into the bee, then take the 4 speed stuff out of the bee and put it with the 440 and a833 into my charger. since the bee is for the wife, an auto is the way she would like it. and i wouldn't mind having a bad ass 440 with 4 speed in my car. i realize this might be a lot of work, swapping pedals and steering columns and what nots, but its a goal.

Luke

[70 sublime]

Does it ever freeze outside where this motor came from ?
If it does I doubt you will find it without a crack someplace

Exhaust bolts
If you are talking about the last one on left side the motor has a stud and it is a special part that holds the last one on
It is like a threaded tube to go down inside a hole in manifold and the tube has a nut shape on the out side end to tighten it up with

[lukedukem]

Yes, it has froze here before. Not often. Maybe once or twice a year. I am aware I'm risking the block haveing a crack but still need to check.
In the fourth pic, from the side with the starter showing, I removed all the bolts starting from left or front of motor all the way to starter area, for a total of five . But I know there's one left cause the manifold is still hanging on. But there is no tube bolt like you say. There is a bolt looking thing going into the manifold. But this is stripped on the head.

Luke

[cdr]

Yes, it has froze here before. Not often. Maybe once or twice a year. I am aware I'm risking the block haveing a crack but still need to check.
In the fourth pic, from the side with the starter showing, I removed all the bolts starting from left or front of motor all the way to starter area, for a total of five . But I know there's one left cause the manifold is still hanging on. But there is no tube bolt like you say. There is a bolt looking thing going into the manifold. But this is stripped on the head.

Luke

the stripped lookin thingy is the bolt that needs to come off

[lukedukem]

That's what I was afraid of. Any tips. I don't have a torch, not sure I'd use one anyway.

Luke

[John_Kunkel]

The end fastener isn't a bolt, it's a sleeve nut that threads onto a stud in the head. If it won't turn easily, get a longer wrench and turn until it snaps off....most studs are snapped off anyway.

[birdsandbees]

Luke, hold a nut up against it with the ground clamp of the welder and then arc / tig / mig weld through the nut hole to the existing stripped sleeve nut. Then turn it out.

[lukedukem]

Luke, hold a nut up against it with the ground clamp of the welder and then arc / tig / mig weld through the nut hole to the existing stripped sleeve nut. Then turn it out.

That's not a bad idea, thanks. just so I'm clear, the one in the yellow circle is the one I'm trying to get out.

Luke

[birdsandbees]

YES  

The heat from welding will also probably expand the nut sleeve and let it loose of the head stud.

[lukedukem]

YES 

The heat from welding will also probably expand the nut sleeve and let it loose of the head stud.

ok, good. Thanks. I took a better pic of the other side as well. hopefully I do not run into the same

Luke

[birdsandbees]

Yep.. two similar over on the right, but they're longer in length.

[70 sublime]

What makes them more fun to get out is that they stick on the threads on the inside and they stick on the outside to the manifold also

[lukedukem]

What makes them more fun to get out is that they stick on the threads on the inside and they stick on the outside to the manifold also

Yep, this is what I'm afraid of. I have some pb blaster I will use to soak them for a day or too and see if that helps. I'll update my progress later. Thanks guys

Luke

[68 RT]

Keep soaking them and tap on them with a hammer, may need more than one day? Try an impact gun if you have one. That's how I got mine out. More than likely they are rusted to the manifold.

[lukedukem]

Can anyone help with these stamping. this is the best pic i could get. i think its 8E127948. i'm not 100% on the first one being an 8, might be a B
and the 9 is iffy as well.
anyone know what car this might have went to.
it would have to be for one that came with an HP block, that i know. has a 12 on the pad with D440 and HP
I dont know much about numbers and what letters mean

Luke

[68 RT]

It is 8(1968)B(Hamtramck), Need the first part of the vin to know the car type. More than likely it is from a GTX, Charger R/T or Coronet R/T.

[lukedukem]

It is 8(1968)B(Hamtramck), Need the first part of the vin to know the car type. More than likely it is from a GTX, Charger R/T or Coronet R/T.

i believe the second is the letter E, not B.

Luke

[c00nhunterjoe]

Did you get it apart yet? Im curious how rusty the insides are.

[lukedukem]

Did you get it apart yet? Im curious how rusty the insides are.

Lol. Not yet. Haven't had time to mess with that exhaust bolt issue. Been out of commission since I busted my toe
But it's healed up, now I have to go to Vegas for the con expo this week. So it'll be at least a week before I can get back on it.
I'll tell you this, I was spraying the numbers off, and ants started coming out of the crack between the block and bell housing. I don't have high expectations for this. We will see

Luke

[68 RT]

E would be Los Angles.

[68 RT]

That would leave a Coronet R/T.

[lukedukem]

That would leave a Coronet R/T.

Thank you. I wasn't sure what car it would've been.

Luke