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68 charger body but 69 vin?

Started by kz1980, February 11, 2017, 01:19:18 PM

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polywideblock

seems the thread on fbbo most think its fraud  :scratchchin:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Kern Dog

Quote from: cbrestorations on February 19, 2017, 04:18:14 AM
If the wife you loved dearly died...would you bring her back to life if you could? Analogies work both ways... :nana:
Son of a bitch...you got me on that one. I'd raise Heaven and Hell to save mine.   :2thumbs:

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Kern Dog on February 19, 2017, 03:58:26 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 18, 2017, 11:56:07 PM
Very well said dayclona :2thumbs:

Very well said?
Well, that is ONE opinion. It is only an accepted practice by those with no respect for the law or the unique identity of each vehicle.



When they came down the assembly line looking like wiggets, an identity was only assigned to differentiate future ownership, to tie the VIN to the MSO, to determine destination/ownership, if I have purchased two of the same in a legal fashion, they are mine to do with as I please, including the merging of two to create one for whatever reason, and the identity to be determined at my discretion,

laws, like religion, are for those that need guidance or a crutch to have a path predetermined for them in life, because they are not capable of  independent thought in controlling their individuality/activity in the human collective

Lennard


cbrestorations

after doing some digging and more phone calls yesturday, theres a restoration form i can fill out here at the nevada dmv allowing the removal of vin numbers specifically for restoration purposes. first it requires an inspection to make sure the vins in question are neither stolen and titled to the one restoring the vehicle.(which CDR this procedure would of kept your car from getting taken from you) once approved vins can legally be removed from the vehicle for restoration purposes and there are no restrictions to the extent of work needed. no percentages of what needs to be original. so...if a rebody is in ur agenda you just get approval on both vehicles and blam-ooooo legal rebody because once approval is given on both cars and numbers are removed there is zero zilch nada way to prove which numbers go to which body. if anything were to come up...you have legal documentation allowing the vins to be removed to show to the authorities.  im sure california and other states have the same procedure and i believe Oklahoma either passed or will pass legal vin swap paperwork with just a rebody fee. i read somewhere that a shop went under investigation for doing just so, but won their case in court and it has forced oklahoma to look into new laws on rebody's. hot damn that dead horse has been revived, this process eliminates probability of stolen vehicles and that only the legal owner of both cars can do this. plus there is a paper trail of the vins being removed that the seller would have to explain... i win... :nana: :nana: :nana: :lol:

http://www.dmvnv.com/pdfforms/vp209.pdf
NRS 482.553 Unlawful removal, defacement, alteration or obliteration of identification number or mark of motor vehicle or part thereof; restoration of number or mark; homemade vehicles; penalty.

1. A person shall not intentionally remove, deface, alter or obliterate the identification number or mark of a vehicle or part from a motor vehicle without written authorization from the Department, nor shall any person attach to or place or stamp upon a vehicle or the parts thereof any serial, motor or other number or mark except one assigned thereto by the Department.

2. This section does not prohibit the restoration by an owner of the original vehicle identification number or mark when the restoration is authorized by the Department, nor prevent any manufacturer from placing in the ordinary course of business numbers or marks upon new motor vehicles or new parts thereof.

TheBipolarRoller

Quote from: cbrestorations on February 19, 2017, 01:34:25 PM
after doing some digging and more phone calls yesturday, theres a restoration form i can fill out here at the nevada dmv allowing the removal of vin numbers specifically for restoration purposes. first it requires an inspection to make sure the vins in question are neither stolen and titled to the one restoring the vehicle.(which CDR this procedure would of kept your car from getting taken from you) once approved vins can legally be removed from the vehicle for restoration purposes and there are no restrictions to the extent of work needed. no percentages of what needs to be original. so...if a rebody is in ur agenda you just get approval on both vehicles and blam-ooooo legal rebody because once approval is given on both cars and numbers are removed there is zero zilch nada way to prove which numbers go to which body. if anything were to come up...you have legal documentation allowing the vins to be removed to show to the authorities.  im sure california and other states have the same procedure and i believe Oklahoma either passed or will pass legal vin swap paperwork with just a rebody fee. i read somewhere that a shop went under investigation for doing just so, but won their case in court and it has forced oklahoma to look into new laws on rebody's. hot damn that dead horse has been revived, this process eliminates probability of stolen vehicles and that only the legal owner of both cars can do this. plus there is a paper trail of the vins being removed that the seller would have to explain... i win... :nana: :nana: :nana: :lol:

http://www.dmvnv.com/pdfforms/vp209.pdf
NRS 482.553 Unlawful removal, defacement, alteration or obliteration of identification number or mark of motor vehicle or part thereof; restoration of number or mark; homemade vehicles; penalty.

1. A person shall not intentionally remove, deface, alter or obliterate the identification number or mark of a vehicle or part from a motor vehicle without written authorization from the Department, nor shall any person attach to or place or stamp upon a vehicle or the parts thereof any serial, motor or other number or mark except one assigned thereto by the Department.

2. This section does not prohibit the restoration by an owner of the original vehicle identification number or mark when the restoration is authorized by the Department, nor prevent any manufacturer from placing in the ordinary course of business numbers or marks upon new motor vehicles or new parts thereof.

And this is one purpose of this thread. To get people to do their own homework and not take the second-hand information, or hearsay, of another person. That is why someone was mentioning "Will you do my time in jail for me?" If you take someone's word here and do not do your own homework, then you are the one who suffers, not the one who gave you wrong information... whether ignorantly or on purpose.

Good job CB for doing your own homework. Now how about that nickle tour of your uncle's boneyard?  :coolgleamA:

Kern Dog

Quote from: DAY CLONA on February 19, 2017, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on February 19, 2017, 03:58:26 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on February 18, 2017, 11:56:07 PM
Very well said dayclona :2thumbs:

Very well said?
Well, that is ONE opinion. It is only an accepted practice by those with no respect for the law or the unique identity of each vehicle.


laws, like religion, are for those that need guidance or a crutch to have a path predetermined for them in life, because they are not capable of  independent thought in controlling their individuality/activity in the human collective

Well, this really clears things up. More of the same from yet another person that thinks they are smarter and better than others. Arrogance is a terrible thing. It prevents you from learning or improving yourself. All these laws are in place for reasons. Some make sense, some do not. Being in California most of my life, I have had to deal with some of the stupidest Liberal Politicians ever born.
Nobody will ever convince a person like you because you gave up humility and the capacity to learn some time ago.

hemi-hampton

COOL, cbrestorations, can you find me a nice mint Nevada rusfree solid 1972 Charger body so I can put my Vin #'s on it from my rust bucket Bengal Charger. This will make my restoration quick & easy. :scratchchin:

Moparpoolman

I'm looking for a set of numbers for a 1970 Hemi Charger to put in a 318 Charger.  After reading all this many seem to think it's OK, Then I'd like to sell the 1970 Hemi Charger for $150,000 to someone here who's been arguing  that it's OK and condones this behavior, they won't mind, Right?

Lennard

Quote from: Moparpoolman on February 19, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
I'm looking for a set of numbers for a 1970 Hemi Charger to put in a 318 Charger.  After reading all this many seem to think it's OK, Then I'd like to sell the 1970 Hemi Charger for $150,000 to someone here who's been arguing  that it's OK and condones this behavior, they won't mind, Right?
Nah, wrong year.  :icon_smile_big:

cbrestorations

Quote from: Moparpoolman on February 19, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
I'm looking for a set of numbers for a 1970 Hemi Charger to put in a 318 Charger.  After reading all this many seem to think it's OK, Then I'd like to sell the 1970 Hemi Charger for $150,000 to someone here who's been arguing  that it's OK and condones this behavior, they won't mind, Right?


all went down the assembly line just alike except for snubber brace, k frame and torque boxes. so as long as you do it correctly its the same car. it would be more original than if you found a rust bucket and replaced all metal needed. the rebody would have all chrysler stamped metal, ur rust bucket would be half made in china  :smilielol:

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Moparpoolman on February 19, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
I'm looking for a set of numbers for a 1970 Hemi Charger to put in a 318 Charger.  After reading all this many seem to think it's OK, Then I'd like to sell the 1970 Hemi Charger for $150,000 to someone here who's been arguing  that it's OK and condones this behavior, they won't mind, Right?





I'd have no issue buying a rebody, as long as it's professionally done, and done correctly and to my liking, IMHO a vehicle, regardless of it's "pedigree" or "rarity" or originality is worth only what I want to pay for it, when the point where the asking price far exceeds the cost for me to reproduce that vehicle for myself, I'll choose to construct it myself, I'm not one to be constrained by "numbers matching", pedigree, originality, etc, etc...I'm not one to wait for a particular vehicle/combo to surface on the market, I'll create what I desire

DAY CLONA

Quote from: hemi-hampton on February 19, 2017, 08:27:02 PM
COOL, cbrestorations, can you find me a nice mint Nevada rusfree solid 1972 Charger body so I can put my Vin #'s on it from my rust bucket Bengal Charger. This will make my restoration quick & easy. :scratchchin:






here ya go, nice original survivor rustfree Texas car, cheap too! on Ebay now, just gotta pony up

hemi-hampton

Yeah, That would be a perfect candidate. LEON.