Winter project- engine change (bad news)..(GOOD NEWS)

[keith88]

My 318 dropped a cylinder at the end of last season so over the winter i decided to swap it out for a 360. Got a nice used motor with 30,000 on it all im going to do is add a comp xtreme cam to it and gasket it and put a new oil pump in it. So far I have bought a new damper and flex plate to go from the 318 to the 360 going to use my upper end as far as intake and carb as well as my valve covers. So far the motor is out than i was able to paint the K-frame and make it look nice.
Here's a few shots so far:
(Engine pulled)



(Engine Bay)




(360 engine)


 

[Baldwinvette77]

i'm looking forward to more of this   

[lukedukem]

Great job on the k member. Looks good. What year is the 360?

Luke

[Dino]

Nice! That will make for a fun ride.   

Are you going to reinstall the stock vacuum canister below the battery while it's apart?

[tan top]

 

[keith88]

Great job on the k member. Looks good. What year is the 360?

Luke

Its from 1975 it was a 4bbl motor

[keith88]

Nice! That will make for a fun ride.   

Are you going to reinstall the stock vacuum canister below the battery while it's apart?

No i converted my headlight doors to electric.

[Dino]

Nice! That will make for a fun ride.   

Are you going to reinstall the stock vacuum canister below the battery while it's apart?

No i converted my headlight doors to electric.

Oh cool!

What's the big tank behind the battery for then?

[keith88]

Vacuum can for the power brakes..It helps one of the reason why I converted the doors.

[Dino]

Gotcha! I didn't notice until now that you're running power discs.   

[VegasCharger]

I love the operation of the vacuum powered headlight doors on the 68-69 Chargers. Love the sound and the off set timing between the two doors.

Just my 

[Kern Dog]

You have a strange way of engine removal....the engine brackets left on the K member

[keith88]

That was for paint purpose they are coming off again

[Dino]

I love the operation of the vacuum powered headlight doors on the 68-69 Chargers. Love the sound and the off set timing between the two doors.

Just my 

I love the psshhh when I hit that switch.   

[c00nhunterjoe]

Ive never understood all the issues with stock headlight doors. I do not have a canister on my car and my 383 only pulled 8.5" of vaccum and my doors have always opened and closed without issue. 

[VegasCharger]

I love the psshhh when I hit that switch.   

There you go. 

Ive never understood all the issues with stock headlight doors. I do not have a canister on my car and my 383 only pulled 8.5" of vaccum and my doors have always opened and closed without issue. 

True. You can completely by-pass the canister can and run a direct vac line to the source. It will still operate the headlight doors. Even if there's a slight leak, they will still work. The canister just holds stored vacuum so that you open/close the doors if the engine isn't running and creating vacuum. So what big deal just fire up the Charger again to open/close the doors. I mean don't us Mopar guys love to have a reason to start up the beast??

With that being said I have my canister in place. I was fortunate enough that there was one when I got my Charger. Not sure if I would've paid damn near a $100.00 for a can. I probably would've created my on vacuum can made out of a food/beverage can. But I definitely would have not resourced to converting to the noisy electric doors, especially the over-priced kits that they sell WTF. What a joke those prices are.

[keith88]

Not to get off subject with this but I made the headlight doors my self it was not a kit. I did not have a lot of the parts when i bought the car. I had a 70 so the noise is no big deal to me.

See quick video of doors (before switch hook up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzun-zbENss&feature=youtu.be

[keith88]

Small update cleaned up some odd & ends painted them and sanded down the headers  and painted them .

[timmycharger]

Vacuum can for the power brakes..It helps one of the reason why I converted the doors.

I am running the same vacuum can, my 284/484 mopar cam only pulls 10" of vacuum and I am running power brakes 

[Bens340]

Gunna be watching this too. I just picked a 360 magnum motor myself to swap into my 73 while i rebuild the 340

[VegasCharger]

Not to get off subject with this but I made the headlight doors my self it was not a kit. I did not have a lot of the parts when i bought the car. I had a 70 so the noise is no big deal to me.

See quick video of doors (before switch hook up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzun-zbENss&feature=youtu.be

Nice but I like this much better. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pcOGCibiw

And the 68s having the headlight bezels makes it so much sweeter. Never understood why Chrysler didn't put those on the 69s.

[keith88]

Weekend update: the engine is coming together, cam is in, heads on, timing chain installed new high volume oil pump and pan painted.

[keith88]

Got the engine together and in the car still some to do but getting there.

[Back N Black]

Looking good!!! 

[keith88]

Thanks it in and running now, have some odds and ends to do now ..new rear tires, gas gauge issue and a torque bushing to replace. Plus it sounds nicer than it did with the 318 (little bigger cam) Ill see if i can post some more pictures tomorrow and maybe a video of it running.

[keith88]

OK it done and running going to do a few more odds and ends but the engine is  finished soon it will be ready for the season that starts in 6 weeks or so. Here's some finial shots and a couple of quick video of it running.

Pic:





Painted the front end parts and chassis as well:



Videos:

[cdr]

 

[timmycharger]

Great job!!

[keith88]

OK this is the last post on this,engine in running,cleaned up and back home. Also 2 new rear tires and fixed the gas gauge so i know when im going to run out in stead of having to guess. Cant wait for the season to start now.

Pics:

[TheBipolarRoller]

She's all ready to jump Hazzard Creek. 

[Baldwinvette77]

Awesome job!

[keith88]

Bad news oil pressure drop ..check bearing and found some bad ones the engine was not new but low mileage. My remote filter could have starved the oil needed , so it back to the drawing board ,now i have to rebuild it new.

[Baldwinvette77]

Damn it.. thats a shame...im fearing the same thing on my engine, but i wont know til i try  but on the bright side, stroker kit?

[Kern Dog]

You didn't pull any caps to check the condition of the bearings? Did you "Pre-oil" before you started it? New oil pump? I see that you had to change the oil pan, this is prime time to do all of those things.
If you did check, I guess that they all seemed fine?

[keith88]

The engine was a used one with about 30,000 on it i was told we took it apart and checked the bearing both main and rods they looked good we did put a new high volume pump in it and re-gasket it the cylinder walls also looked good. My guess is that one of the hoses that go to the remote filter must of collapsed and that caused the issue. It had 75 pounds when we started it this was the 1st time i took it on the highway just a short trip to the next exit and back. I noticed that the pressure dropped to 30-40 pounds than went to 5 at a stop a we took the pan off and found one really bad rod bearing and a few main that had ware but savable. I i will have to do the whole lower end.   

[c00nhunterjoe]

I would verify the source of the drop unless you are replacing everything.

[tan top]

 not good , sorry to hear this     ,

[keith88]

Making progress new used motor in, might of luck out in the process...This one is an 89 360 with 36,000 mile on it out of a truck it had a roller cam but I took it out in favor of the bigger comp cam I bought(flat tappet)I also took off the fuel injection in favor of my carb set up but they come with a better set of heads with higher compression so that should help. Should be bringing it home Thursday.

[Daytona R/T SE]

Bad news oil pressure drop ..check bearing and found some bad ones the engine was not new but low mileage. My remote filter could have starved the oil needed , so it back to the drawing board ,now i have to rebuild it new.

Could it be some of that paint you squirted all over the valve springs came loose and worked it's way down into the pan and plugged up your pick up screen?

[Kern Dog]

Bad news oil pressure drop ..check bearing and found some bad ones the engine was not new but low mileage. My remote filter could have starved the oil needed , so it back to the drawing board ,now i have to rebuild it new.

Could it be some of that paint you squirted all over the valve springs came loose and worked it's way down into the pan and plugged up your pick up screen?

Well, that is a bit rude.
Paint on valve springs looks sloppy but causes no problems like you describe.

[cdr]

Bad news oil pressure drop ..check bearing and found some bad ones the engine was not new but low mileage. My remote filter could have starved the oil needed , so it back to the drawing board ,now i have to rebuild it new.

Could it be some of that paint you squirted all over the valve springs came loose and worked it's way down into the pan and plugged up your pick up screen?

Well, that is a bit rude.
Paint on valve springs looks sloppy but causes no problems like you describe.

I have seen paint plug up a oil pick up screen

Making progress new used motor in, might of luck out in the process...This one is an 89 360 with 36,000 mile on it out of a truck it had a roller cam but I took it out in favor of the bigger comp cam I bought(flat tappet)I also took off the fuel injection in favor of my carb set up but they come with a better set of heads with higher compression so that should help. Should be bringing it home Thursday.

WHY in the WORLD did you remove the roller cam for a flat tappet cam, I would reconsider that mistake.

[keith88]

Bad news oil pressure drop ..check bearing and found some bad ones the engine was not new but low mileage. My remote filter could have starved the oil needed , so it back to the drawing board ,now i have to rebuild it new.

Could it be some of that paint you squirted all over the valve springs came loose and worked it's way down into the pan and plugged up your pick up screen?

No it was not the paint over spray on the springs we cleaned that off before it was assembled the screen was clear, it was do to a high volume pump and a remote oil filter that did not return the oil to the pan quick enough..should have taken it off or used a bigger pan, hind site is 20/20. As for the cam.. The brand new cam I bought was a bigger cam and would work better than what it had in this engine. I did struggle with the decision but it was a kit that I bought and really didn't want to waist the money i spent, if it was closer in size i would have left it alone.  Had i know i would end up with a roller engine i would have bought a roller cam for sure , The engine was replaced for free so it did cost me anything there.

[Daytona R/T SE]

Could it be some of that paint you squirted all over the valve springs came loose and worked it's way down into the pan and plugged up your pick up screen?

Well, that is a bit rude.
Paint on valve springs looks sloppy but causes no problems like you describe.

Bullshit !

[keith88]

Well i got the car back the engine is even better than the other one,runs better oil pressure is really good 90 at start up 60 when when warm and driving 50 at low idle. The only issue that we will look at is a small lifter noise from #1 cylinder that we had a machine shop owner in our car club look at said its getting plenty of oil but wants me to drive for a bit to see if it goes a way if not he will put a slightly longer push rod in tho fix,nothing big though even comp cams the maker of the cam I put in says that happens sometimes. I will have to get a front end aliment seeing it some how got off in this process...thinking when they did it last they might have forgotten to tighten the nuts down good.
Here's some shots of it back in

[Kern Dog]

Looks good. Glad to see that things are working out for you.   

[BLK 68 R/T]

Glad to hear you got it fixed and running again.

[keith88]

Thanks guys. To finish off the new engine install I had a stock style air cleaner decal made to fit my air cleaner to give it a vintage look. Now if this snow would go away so the season could start!