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Superbird fender scoops

Started by boss429kiwi, January 16, 2017, 02:58:07 PM

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boss429kiwi

Hi

My Bird has been fitted with reproduction fend scoops, and are poor quality. The outer finish is fine, but the mounting pedestals are poor, with two broken.

Does anyone know of any originals available for sale, and how much should I expect to pay?
Who supply the best reproductions?

many thanks
Gary McNeill   
NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

Aero426

$1500 for a pair of really nice scoops would not surprise me.   Not easy to come by.  

Hemi Runner

I just ordered a pair from Dayclona. Great quality on everything I've purchased so far and a great guy to deal with.

boss429kiwi

Does Daycolna do Superbird fender scoops?

Do you have their contact details.

thanks
Gary
NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

Hemi Runner

He makes Bird and Daytona parts. Dayclona is his username on here. PM him.

PettyMower

Even on the originals, the pedestals cracked. Probably what led you yours having aftermarket scoops.

birdsandbees

I bet they're just originals.. as noted they indeed crack. Pull them off, rebuild the pedestals and put them back on. I need to repair a couple of my mounting bosses my self. We had to fix all but one on my '69 Super Bee scoops as well...  :yesnod:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Wingnut426

Quote from: Aero426 on January 16, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
$1500 for a pair of really nice scoops would not surprise me.   Not easy to come by.   
WOW! I have an NOS pair! I can retire! LOL!
HEMI Daytona Convertible

birdsandbees

Quote from: Wingnut426 on January 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on January 16, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
$1500 for a pair of really nice scoops would not surprise me.   Not easy to come by.   
WOW! I have an NOS pair! I can retire! LOL!
:2thumbs:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

A383Wing

Quote from: Wingnut426 on January 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on January 16, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
$1500 for a pair of really nice scoops would not surprise me.   Not easy to come by.   
WOW! I have an NOS pair! I can retire! LOL!

at least until next week

Aero426

Quote from: Wingnut426 on January 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on January 16, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
$1500 for a pair of really nice scoops would not surprise me.   Not easy to come by.   
WOW! I have an NOS pair! I can retire! LOL!

They are not very hard to sell. 

boss429kiwi

Quote from: birdsandbees on January 16, 2017, 05:39:32 PM
I bet they're just originals.. as noted they indeed crack. Pull them off, rebuild the pedestals and put them back on. I need to repair a couple of my mounting bosses my self. We had to fix all but one on my '69 Super Bee scoops as well...  :yesnod:

The pedestals are not "cleanly" moulded, they are not uniformed, which makes me think they are repros.
I will take a photo.
NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

birdsandbees

I'll do the same on mine tomorrow... I know mine are original..
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

PettyMower

The brand name and part number are molded into the bottom side, if I remember correctly. I'll look to see if I took pics of mine while they were off for paint.

Aero426

They will say "Jo Ad" (the vendor) molded in the bottom side.

Wingnut426

If I remember correctly, there are early and late production scoops?  One is taller at the opening making it look more rounded where the other was flatter like a Daytona scoop.   My NOS left scoop has 3571133LH then JO-AD IND INC  below the part# and then 9471 below that. My NOS right scoop is the same except part# ends in 2 and RH  WINGNUT426
HEMI Daytona Convertible

Redbird

I have had a number of Superbird parts for a long time. My experience with folks restoring original cars is generally they are pinching their pennies pretty hard. I had a NOS set of Valance panels I sold last month,... to someone building a clone. He seems like a nice enough guy and knew what he was buying. He wanted original parts. I suggested he go to someone like Mike Goyette for a lot less money. He wanted the original parts.

A while ago I had tried to sell them to someone who was restoring an original car and really needed the parts. The original car guy didn't like the price, the cloner did, go figure?

hemi68charger

Quote from: Redbird on January 17, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
I have had a number of Superbird parts for a long time. My experience with folks restoring original cars is generally they are pinching their pennies pretty hard. I had a NOS set of Valance panels I sold last month,... to someone building a clone. He seems like a nice enough guy and knew what he was buying. He wanted original parts. I suggested he go to someone like Mike Goyette for a lot less money. He wanted the original parts.

A while ago I had tried to sell them to someone who was restoring an original car and really needed the parts. The original car guy didn't like the price, the cloner did, go figure?

Been in that boat too.... Restoring original cars and just come to pay the price for economic reasons... Sometimes original cars fall into the hands of people by chance, or some have had them a LONG time....... The cycle goes on...
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

billssuperbird

On the Superbird there is a difference between the right and the left fender scoop

odcics2

A real car should have real parts.   :Twocents:

A clone can have anything.   :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Hemi Runner

I put an original wing on my clone. The NOS center section was a nice plus. I think it's a much better piece than a fiberglass copy. I also don't think I could stand to use a fiberglass plug on an original or even a clone. I think my steel Gregory nose was much better than any beat to death original that I have come across in my search so I think it just depends. I also think what I built for headlight buckets is much better than original or aftermarket parts and I'd put them on an original bird as well. So it all boils down to budget, capability and perspective.

DAY CLONA

Quote from: odcics2 on January 18, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
A real car should have real parts.   :Twocents:

A clone can have anything.   :Twocents:





Funny thing is Greg, when I look at a lot of so-called restored back to "original" Daytona's and Superbirds at shows, or for sale boasting how original the car is, I either know the owner/car or shop that I supplied repro parts too/for... :nana:

I always say there's a little bit of Dayclona in almost every wingcar

Mike

FJ5WING

Quote from: DAY CLONA on January 18, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on January 18, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
A real car should have real parts.   :Twocents:

A clone can have anything.   :Twocents:





Funny thing is Greg, when I look at a lot of so-called restored back to "original" Daytona's and Superbirds at shows, or for sale boasting how original the car is, I either know the owner/car or shop that I supplied repro parts too/for... :nana:

I always say there's a little bit of Dayclona in almost every wingcar

Mike

You can say with just by including your knowledge and wisdon! I dont think Ive used any of your parts because we couldnt get connected when I needed the frame extensions but youve helped out a ton on suggestions and help!
wingless now, but still around.

DAY CLONA

Quote from: FJ5WING on January 20, 2017, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: DAY CLONA on January 18, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on January 18, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
A real car should have real parts.   :Twocents:

A clone can have anything.   :Twocents:





Funny thing is Greg, when I look at a lot of so-called restored back to "original" Daytona's and Superbirds at shows, or for sale boasting how original the car is, I either know the owner/car or shop that I supplied repro parts too/for... :nana:

I always say there's a little bit of Dayclona in almost every wingcar

Mike

You can say with just by including your knowledge and wisdon! I dont think Ive used any of your parts because we couldnt get connected when I needed the frame extensions but youve helped out a ton on suggestions and help!



Thanks Dave, I appreciate that !

bannedbird

Quote from: billssuperbird on January 18, 2017, 06:12:12 AM
On the Superbird there is a difference between the right and the left fender scoop

What is the difference?

Mine seemed original and had same part number.
- Superbird Steve - Chicago
1970 A13 E86 D32 B5 H2XW w/GIII, ITB, 6L85