71 daytona clone

[Bandit72]

does anyone have pictures of those 3rd gen daytonas that somebody buillt? I would like to see them again

thanks


later 

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

here ya go


link------------->www.dayclona.com

[nascarxx29]

I have a picture of a 71 or 72 orange daytona clone built way back in the 80-s. I even remember seening it done  back in the day on a 73-74 b body.
It wasnt till dayclona came along and did up a real nice version of one.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

could you post soem pics of that orange original replica?-MATT

[terrible one]

Haha. RAREST.

[BigBlockSam]

i don't dig that double wing

[CFMopar]

Chrysler did test with the double wing thats why they did some with it...

[hemigeno]

Chrysler did test with the double wing thats why they did some with it...

Yep, they absolutely did.  Here's a picture from the aerowarriors.com website of that very thing...  Rumor has it that they were even thinking of a tri-wing concept too, but thankfully that never went anywhere.

[BigBlockSam]

wow, look at that. i did not know that. i just don't like how it looks. did they get alot more down force with it?

[hemigeno]

did they get alot more down force with it?

As with most engineers, the thought process goes something like:

If some is good, more is better...

There is a WHOLE bunch of documents related to this topic and the conclusions they came to on the aerowarriors.com site here:

http://aerowarriors.com/gswtt.html

To directly answer your question, the bi-wing definitely produced more rear wheel downforce.  They also tested a wing that had a 19" cross-section circumference (it was almost 8" wide, and if you wrapped a tape measure around the airfoil it was close to 19"), but it wasn't as good as the bi-wing.

Interestingly enough, the G-series racecar was not generally considered as good as the F-series Daytona.  Some aspects of the '71 version were better, but overall the Daytona was about as good as it got for Chrysler from an aero standpoint.


Geno

[BigBlockSam]

thanks Geno, thats pretty cool

[2fast4u]

   I have some shots also................

[BigBlockSam]

i've always thought that the aero dynamics on that red car's nose are kinda up side down. Rene

[mikepmcs]

   I have some shots also................

That some cool stuff though you gotta admit!  I'd take those cars in a heartbeat for sure.

[hotrod98]

I'm holding on to a real solid 74 charger just to build a wing car of some kind. I think that I can convert one of the daytona noses that we're starting to build and I'm going to make a fiberglass wing from my aluminum daytona wing. Should be a nice driver.

[moparfied]

I think that double blade is cool! Its over the top!

[71gtx]

COOL

[4Q]

If the factory never made it, but had the plans to do it;  isn\'t it a prototype? 

[moparfied]

I don\'t know if you could call it a prototype,because it was not built by Chrysler,but it is a full scale representation of the wind tunnel test model. I wonder if that dual blade wing has more downforce than the regular wing,and if it feels different than a regular wingcar at speed?

[Ghoste]

It's cool no matter what you call it.

[hemigeno]

I wonder if that dual blade wing has more downforce than the regular wing

The following was posted 8 replies above...

did they get alot more down force with it?

To directly answer your question, the bi-wing definitely produced more rear wheel downforce.  They also tested a wing that had a 19" cross-section circumference (it was almost 8" wide, and if you wrapped a tape measure around the airfoil it was close to 19"), but it wasn't as good as the bi-wing.

The bi-wing design was never (to my knowledge) put on the racetrack.  It may have actually upset the balance of the car in general, since if you put more downforce on the very rear of the car, it creates positive lift on the front of the car.

I don't know if anyone can answer the question as to how the bi-wing felt on the track if Chrysler only tested it in the wind tunnel, and even then it might depend totally on which aero nose, backlight, and windshield fairing treatments it was coupled with.

[moparfied]

I wonder if the way the lower blade is located right at the roof line,if the air coming off the roof,and between the upper blade would make the car more stable. I also have to wonder if it would be a positive or negative effect in the corners. I do not know if the Dayclona guys have had those cars up to the speeds where the downforce takes effect,but it would be cool to know if there is a difference in the effectiveness of the bi wing verses the single blade wing. If I see those guys at Carlsile,I will ask them about it.

[myrt70]

Those 71 wingcars are really cool,I like the Superbird the best. Dayclona does some really nice work!

[moparfied]

I saw their cars at a show in Connecticut, They had the three 71 wingcars there,and the orange Charger convertible. I had never seen that black 71 Superbee wingcar before,that car is my favorite one. I had seen the other ones in the magazines before,but I did not know about the black one. It was sinister looking. What a bad ass car!

[4Q]

I think of them as prototypes because Chrysler did not have to be the builder.  They sent out the RTS cars to built.  Had Chrysler built it, would it be a Pilot car or would the pilot car be the first few cars of a production run? Definately not a clone because there would have to an original built to clone from.  How about a custom or modified? They are both of those, but they represent what Chrysler was actually going to build.  That is the way cool part.  Food for thought.  I just appreciate the workmanship and wish I could have been involved in the projects, just out of curiosity and a learning experience.  Oh well, I live way too far away for that.