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Cookie Monster - 1968 Charger

Started by Arbitrage123, January 09, 2017, 08:05:06 PM

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Arbitrage123

So I just picked up a 1968 Charger R/T 440 this weekend (#'s matching). Bought it from the original owner. The body and engine are in great shape the only "issue" is the previous owner put his own spin on the interior in the 1970's. I would like to say he murdered Cookie Monster and upholstered him in the car. Sadly he did it over the original blue interior. So I have spent the last few days removing his handy work and trying what I can to salvage the interior (pics). In addition he removed the back seat and added his own speakers.

Does anyone have any hints on how to remove glue residue from the interior panels and dash? Additionally, does anyone have any recommendations for the best way to straighten the seat hooks?

If anyone knows someone selling blue interior pieces let me know.

-B

Arbitrage123

Pics

lukedukem

Wow.  :shruggy:

Goo Gone works good at removing glue

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

f6f

 I kind of hate you now because that is the car that I would like to buy !! lol

Congratulations on your new Charger 68. Let me know if the owner has another one, I do not mind removing the decorations from the inside


Arbitrage123

Here are some pictures after removal

Arbitrage123

Back seat after removal and hook that owner had hammered down.

birdsandbees

Finding some interesting stuff for the concurs guys though... note that dual exhaust hanger wasn't painted, yet installed after the body was painted and left bare!  :scratchchin:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

XS29LA47V21

you could try WD30 in a small spot with repeated application. Discolorization may have already happened with old glue and may focus on the pads/seat and plan on replacing the door panels and head liner.  This is the direction I would try.  You decide what works best and for you.  Good luck.  Otherwise, good looking car otherwise.  What is not to like it is a 68 (almost a 69  :nana:)

6bblgt

Great car - was it originally black with the blue interior?  :2thumbs:

& three sets of rear seat belts with the early retractor recently asked about in another thread - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127108.0.html

can you get pics of the front seat retractors & share the SPD off the fender tag of the R/T

darbgnik

As above, WD40 removes glue residue like a champ!

Taking the exterior back to blue? Or doing the interior in black?
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

ht4spd307

mineral turpentine will remove the glue if its contact adhesive .soak a rag and load it on dont be shy .takes a few minutes to start working once it starts to soften start rubbing it off with the soaked rag :2thumbs:

TPR

Good looking car.
Man, what was that guy smoking?
:slap:
Hope you can get rid of that residue.
TPR
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440 - UU1 Light Blue Metallic
www.tr440.com

Arbitrage123

Quote from: 6bblgt on January 10, 2017, 12:27:40 AM
Great car - was it originally black with the blue interior?  :2thumbs:

& three sets of rear seat belts with the early retractor recently asked about in another thread - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127108.0.html

can you get pics of the front seat retractors & share the SPD off the fender tag of the R/T

Both the exterior and interior were originally blue, here is the fender tag. Previous owner had it painted black in 1992. I am thinking of bringing it back to the original, not sure yet.

Offblue

Oooooohhhhh dear ... as a fellow owner of a 68 R/T 440, there's just no words ... that puts the final nail in the coffin for my respect for humanity haha ... other than poor cookie monster the car looks immaculate. Hopefully fixing all that interior eyesore goes without a hitch, and congrats, welcome to the club.

marshallfry01

Clean the glue off and dye the dash/panels blue again.  :Twocents:
1969 Charger 383/auto
1969 Charger R/T 440/auto (waiting to be restored)
1972 Chevelle SS clone 383 sbc
1959 Chevy Apache short bed stepside
1968 Charger (glorified parts car)
Yes, I know I have too many cars. My wife reminds me daily.

crj1968

Which bring us to our next lesson....do not smoke weed.


Good luck with the car- looks like  good one !

Baldwinvette77


Tilar

Quote from: TPR on January 10, 2017, 04:54:35 AM

Man, what was that guy smoking?
:slap:

It was the 60's... Many of us here know very well what he may have been smoking.   :icon_smile_wink:

Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



tan top

  Hello &  welcome  :cheers: :cheers:   :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

  WD40 , would be my first try to get the glue  off ,  failing that   try  paint shop degreaser / panel wipe .
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

qwick68

Heat that hook with a small torch, will bend right back
68 Charger LL-1 Turquoise

ht4spd307

Quote from: tan top on January 10, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
  Hello &  welcome  :cheers: :cheers:   :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

  WD40 , would be my first try to get the glue  off ,  failing that   try  paint shop degreaser / panel wipe .
not trying to out shine you but I've been a motor trimmer (auto upholsterer) for 30 +years and mineral turps is  what we use to remove contact adhesive glue from vinyl or cloth with no damage to the surface of the door trim or seat wd40 wont damage the vinyl but will leave an oily residue. paint shop panel wipe will damage the vinyl as it softness the surface of the vinyl and in turn can removed the color   .if you need something a bit stronger use white spirits but try it in a spot were its not noticeable just in case  :2thumbs: but if another type of glue has been used which hardens your pretty well stuffed and it wont matter what you use as your not going to get it off with out damage

500Jon

I would have left it as it was! :slap:


Only kidding lol.... :nana:

Blue outside and black inside, its a NO-BRAINER>>>> :2thumbs:
IF A JOB's WORTH DOING, ITS WORTH DOING WELL, RIP DAD.
4-SPEED, 1969 Charger-500 is the most Coolio car in the World!

Dino

Start smoking weed and find orgy friends. That way you can keep the shag!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Dino on January 11, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Start smoking weed and find orgy friends. That way you can keep the shag!



67440chrg

Good looking car! Good luck on the interior.

bakerhillpins

 :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
A QQ1 blue interior stripe delete non-vinyl topped car.   OEM baby!  :2thumbs:  Yea, with the blue interior it's a lot of blue but sweet car.  :Twocents:

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Quote from: Arbitrage123 on January 10, 2017, 09:09:17 AM

Both the exterior and interior were originally blue, here is the fender tag. Previous owner had it painted black in 1992. I am thinking of bringing it back to the original, not sure yet.
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tan top

Quote from: ht4spd307 on January 10, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 10, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
  Hello &  welcome  :cheers: :cheers:   :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

  WD40 , would be my first try to get the glue  off ,  failing that   try  paint shop degreaser / panel wipe .
not trying to out shine you but I've been a motor trimmer (auto upholsterer) for 30 +years and mineral turps is  what we use to remove contact adhesive glue from vinyl or cloth with no damage to the surface of the door trim or seat wd40 wont damage the vinyl but will leave an oily residue. paint shop panel wipe will damage the vinyl as it softness the surface of the vinyl and in turn can removed the color   .if you need something a bit stronger use white spirits but try it in a spot were its not noticeable just in case  :2thumbs: but if another type of glue has been used which hardens your pretty well stuffed and it wont matter what you use as your not going to get it off with out damage

No no your ok  ( ht4spd307)    :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: ,
I see what your saying . to be honest , sorry I missed your first post ! ( sometimes I scroll down too fast & miss posts altogether by accident .)
i'm by no means a dedicated auto upholsterer , first  mainly i'm a mechanic & body & paint guy for 30 years , but I do auto trimming too , while I've fitted lots of vinyl tops , countless headliners , seat covers , interiors & repairs etc , I've not had the experience of having to  remove lots of upholstery / trim glue from where is should not be ... only  the odd fresh splatter or spots etc , soo I dont know all the tricks of that particular trade so to speak. yes terpinetine  /mineral /white sprits ,  is good ! , have used it in the past when removing vinyl top glue . soak a suitable rag with it  , then wipe it on the glue & rub it off , ( normally the glue rolls off kind of like bubble gum.)
  I've used WD40 the same way in the past , soak a rag with it , then rub the glue  , normally it rolls off the same way ( kind of ). then use sprit / panel wipe / paint shop degreaser to clean up the WD40 greasy / gluey residue .
  have also used  sprit panel wipe / paint shop degreaser to do the same , soak cloth ! rub glue area .
I know what your saying about solvents , they can / will damage plastics & vinyls .  never had a problem with a fast sprit / panel wipe my self , but !then again its dependent on the cloth your using & how hard your rubbing etc ,  it can damage them if your not careful. don't think I would use a slow sprit/ panel wipe , being slow at evaporating , I've found them to be a slightly more aggressive pre cleaner (slightly different chemicals in the mix who knows )
also any lacquer thinner / reducer , will damage plastics / vinyls , ( it sort of dries them out & makes them brittle / hard  or white or melts / makes them go soft or all ) a quick wipe! is ok on  some interior plastics / vinyl , if you neutralise it straight away as I call it , with water  ( wipe it with wet cloth). nother thing to try is ! if the glue is old & or really hard , sometimes warming it up with a hair dryer a little first helps soften the glue  , before using the above methods . once again there are soo many variables , its difficult trying to describe stuff over the internet , with out actually being there( well for me anyways)  its not like I can try this  , or try that if it don't work !! i'm only going by what has worked for me in the past .
  I never mentioned the white / mineral sprit deal, because IMO you can never get rid of the smell & or it takes a long time to go in confined spaces ( inside a car )  compared to a sprit wipe smell  , although this over sensitive to smells could  just be be me , working with paints solvents fuels all these years :icon_smile_blackeye: :P
  looking at all the pictures again , I think  all this  glue will be difficult if not impossible to  completely remove , with out damaging the vinyl , hope i'm wrong ...
 
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Mytur Binsdirti

Speaking of, it's a little known fact that WD40 is also used as butter on movie theater popcorn.  

Arbitrage123

Quote from: tan top on January 11, 2017, 05:49:10 PM
Quote from: ht4spd307 on January 10, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 10, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
 Hello &  welcome  :cheers: :cheers:   :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

 WD40 , would be my first try to get the glue  off ,  failing that   try  paint shop degreaser / panel wipe .
not trying to out shine you but I've been a motor trimmer (auto upholsterer) for 30 +years and mineral turps is  what we use to remove contact adhesive glue from vinyl or cloth with no damage to the surface of the door trim or seat wd40 wont damage the vinyl but will leave an oily residue. paint shop panel wipe will damage the vinyl as it softness the surface of the vinyl and in turn can removed the color   .if you need something a bit stronger use white spirits but try it in a spot were its not noticeable just in case  :2thumbs: but if another type of glue has been used which hardens your pretty well stuffed and it wont matter what you use as your not going to get it off with out damage

No no your ok  ( ht4spd307)    :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: ,

I see what your saying . to be honest , sorry I missed your first post ! ( sometimes I scroll down too fast & miss posts altogether by accident .)
i'm by no means a dedicated auto upholsterer , first  mainly i'm a mechanic & body & paint guy for 30 years , but I do auto trimming too , while I've fitted lots of vinyl tops , countless headliners , seat covers , interiors & repairs etc , I've not had the experience of having to  remove lots of upholstery / trim glue from where is should not be ... only  the odd fresh splatter or spots etc , soo I dont know all the tricks of that particular trade so to speak. yes terpinetine  /mineral /white sprits ,  is good ! , have used it in the past when removing vinyl top glue . soak a suitable rag with it  , then wipe it on the glue & rub it off , ( normally the glue rolls off kind of like bubble gum.)
 I've used WD40 the same way in the past , soak a rag with it , then rub the glue  , normally it rolls off the same way ( kind of ). then use sprit / panel wipe / paint shop degreaser to clean up the WD40 greasy / gluey residue .
 have also used  sprit panel wipe / paint shop degreaser to do the same , soak cloth ! rub glue area .
I know what your saying about solvents , they can / will damage plastics & vinyls .  never had a problem with a fast sprit / panel wipe my self , but !then again its dependent on the cloth your using & how hard your rubbing etc ,  it can damage them if your not careful. don't think I would use a slow sprit/ panel wipe , being slow at evaporating , I've found them to be a slightly more aggressive pre cleaner (slightly different chemicals in the mix who knows )
also any lacquer thinner / reducer , will damage plastics / vinyls , ( it sort of dries them out & makes them brittle / hard  or white or melts / makes them go soft or all ) a quick wipe! is ok on  some interior plastics / vinyl , if you neutralise it straight away as I call it , with water  ( wipe it with wet cloth). nother thing to try is ! if the glue is old & or really hard , sometimes warming it up with a hair dryer a little first helps soften the glue  , before using the above methods . once again there are soo many variables , its difficult trying to describe stuff over the internet , with out actually being there( well for me anyways)  its not like I can try this  , or try that if it don't work !! i'm only going by what has worked for me in the past .
 I never mentioned the white / mineral sprit deal, because IMO you can never get rid of the smell & or it takes a long time to go in confined spaces ( inside a car )  compared to a sprit wipe smell  , although this over sensitive to smells could  just be be me , working with paints solvents fuels all these years :icon_smile_blackeye: :P
 looking at all the pictures again , I think  all this  glue will be difficult if not impossible to  completely remove , with out damaging the vinyl , hope i'm wrong ...
 


Thanks for all the comments and responses. Going to try and salvage what I can. If it looks like it's completely shot I might just go black throughout. It's easier to find parts as well.

500Jon

Blue on Blue Charger is the Cream of the Crop to some Folks like me!

To others a Blue WHALE... :slap:

Why is it we never end up with the Charger we really want??? :pity:
Seems most Folks want a 69 but me I would prefer a 68 or a 70.
Why did I end up with all green Chargers when all I wanted was a BLUE one?
Why did someone buy a Blue Charger and paint in Black??? :shruggy:

WHY ON EARTH WOULD SOMEONE SHAGPILE THE WORLDS MOST DESIRABLE MOPAR... :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

As we say in England, '' there's nowt as queer as Folk''.

George Michael rip...I'm sure he would have liked a bit of shag?
IF A JOB's WORTH DOING, ITS WORTH DOING WELL, RIP DAD.
4-SPEED, 1969 Charger-500 is the most Coolio car in the World!

alfaitalia

LOL!....half the reason I bought an non numbers resto with no real history...or interior!!....I can make into what I would have bought originally!! Not that they supplied blown 69 Chargers from the factory!! To be honest I would have bought a 68 if one had come along at the right cash.....then converted it to look like a 69....that way I would have got the 68s nicer wing (OK fender!!) marker lights!!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

ACUDANUT

 Sorry, But the hell, does  '' there's nowt as queer as Folk''.
mean

alfaitalia

Means people are strange.

"Nothing as strange as people"....near enough. Only the strange lot that live up North really use that phrase in the UK.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: 500Jon on January 12, 2017, 04:47:18 AM



Seems most Folks want a 69 but me I would prefer a 68 or a 70.


I too prefer 68s, but the thought of a 69 every once in a while is something that I look forward to.