Help Please. Need info on bird headliner install and pictures

[rickroadrunner]

Would anybody be able to post some photos of the headliner installed? The plastic molding strip that holds the headliner in place at the rear window, it is a long strip, is the join at the top or the bottom? Thanks

[Hemi Runner]

Would anybody be able to post some photos of the headliner installed? The plastic molding strip that holds the headliner in place at the rear window, it is a long strip, is the join at the top or the bottom? Thanks

The standard B-body uses a multiple piece set up. Is the superbird a one piece strip? Where do you buy these?

[RealWing]

Would anybody be able to post some photos of the headliner installed? The plastic molding strip that holds the headliner in place at the rear window, it is a long strip, is the join at the top or the bottom? Thanks

The standard B-body uses a multiple piece set up. Is the superbird a one piece strip? Where do you buy these?

Yes the Superbird has a 1 piece strip and it is virtually impossible to find one.

[chaaargerb]

I'm back at it. I have taken pics of the molding and special clip to put the molding together.  The molding is just about 10 feet long. Looks like I got lucky the molding didn't shrink from being off the car for so many years.

[chaaargerb]

Molding pics

[chaaargerb]

More Pics

[chaaargerb]

Troy is Helping me with some of the info I needed on the package tray headliner rod and hole placement. But I still could use some help with other headliner pictures. The big question I have right now is when Troy started researching the Package tray headliner rod he was able to check 2 cars and both cars only had the rod on the drivers side. Anyone able to check and see if they have 1 bow or 2 ? Thanks to Troy and everyone else trying to help.

[Hemi Runner]

Would anybody be able to post some photos of the headliner installed? The plastic molding strip that holds the headliner in place at the rear window, it is a long strip, is the join at the top or the bottom? Thanks

The standard B-body uses a multiple piece set up. Is the superbird a one piece strip? Where do you buy these?

Yes the Superbird has a 1 piece strip and it is virtually impossible to find one.

It looks the same as the 68-72 GM front window windlace. Somebody has to make this in a bulk roll.

[RealWing]

Troy is Helping me with some of the info I needed on the package tray headliner rod and hole placement. But I still could use some help with other headliner pictures. The big question I have right now is when Troy started researching the Package tray headliner rod he was able to check 2 cars and both cars only had the rod on the drivers side. Anyone able to check and see if they have 1 bow or 2 ? Thanks to Troy and everyone else trying to help.

Mine had 2 rods

[bannedbird]

Not sure if this helps. Appears original (28,000 mile car).  Center bottom as you can see. 

[birdsandbees]

Mine only has the rod on the passenger side... I assume someone lost the one for the other side...

[bannedbird]

Probably worthless photos, but you never know. This is bottom drivers side corner. Not sure if that is overflow on top of trim, or melted trim.

[chaaargerb]

I wasn't sure if the clip was on the top or bottom. Looking at yours it makes more sense. Those are the kind of pictures I'm looking for. 

[RealWing]

Probably worthless photos, but you never know. This is bottom drivers side corner. Not sure if that is overflow on top of trim, or melted trim.

Kind of looks like some of the rear window sealant was squeezed out during installation of the glass?

[bannedbird]

I'm not sure about the "clip" always being at the bottom on Aero Mopars.  With the fastback rear window, it had to be a PAIN to reach back there at the bottom.  Corporate probably said it looked to obvious at top dead center.  My theory is the installing person may have done the easy button and put it at the top.  The Foreman/Supervisor may have agreed that if it saved time, do the easy way.  So we may see C-500's, 'Tona's, and 'Bird's with clip either top or bottom.  Just a theory.  Unless it was more likely to fall off if at top?  Do we know if the clip is used on another Mopar?

For time stamping, my 'Bird is VIN 165381 was in and out of Clairpointe on Friday, 14-NOV-1969 (per the "NASCAR Race Program 1920" list).

[chaaargerb]

I reinstalled the gasket with the clip on the bottom and it seems to fit a lot better. I'm sure they installed the headliner with the rear window out and it would be a lot easier to install the gasket this way.

[bannedbird]

Looks good. Yeah, doing install pre-window makes sense.

[hemi68charger]

I just put it on the deck and it looks pretty close

Bob, that picture you have is incorrect. The rear hole for the rear tip of the retaining rod needs to be on the outboard side of that square opening in the package tray. That is where the headliner material will fall into then the windlace section will fit over it and the edge of that square opening... Notice the relative position of the rod to the square opening in my original picture..

PS> the outline template of my rod is in the mail today. Hopefully you should get it before Friday or Saturday. The rod does look to be nothing more than a headliner bow....

[chaaargerb]

Troy, The picture I took of the rod on the package tray was to see if the bend and angle was correct over the package tray. I was only using the preexisting hole that was there. I finished painting the inside roof yesterday and I should be in the trunk today to clean up the underside of the package tray. I can't believe the little amount of paint and primer they used on these cars.  If everything goes right I should be hanging the headliner this weekend.

[chaaargerb]

Got the template today and made some rods. I'm going to send one to Troy to match it up with his original. Thanks Again Troy .

[chaaargerb]

Hey if anyone has their rear seat out and could you take the measurement for the holes on the package tray behind the seat? I have some pictures but I would be guessing at the placement.  The hole that the bottom of the rod goes into. Any help would be great!

[hemi68charger]

Here's another picture of driver's side with the headliner still in.. You can see the small hole right next to the side quarter panel.. It isn't the obvious one, it is up by the corner of the back of the seat frame..

[hemi68charger]

Bob..
Here's a picture of your handy work in recreating a headliner tension rod for the Superbird using my original for a template. Top one with the green markings is the original. Excellent job.

Also, here are some pictures of the inside rear window area of a unrestored survivor Superbird

[chaaargerb]

Troy
Thanks for your help. The pictures of your friends car are exactly what  I was looking for. It sounds like there's a couple of us putting headliners in so all the information helps the masses. 

[hemi68charger]

... sounds like there's a couple of us putting headliners in so all the information helps the masses. 

Hopefully I will two in about 4 months...