Do people like Belvederes?

[johnnycharger]

Hi Guys
I spotted this Plymouth Belvedere today. I don't know anything about these except that I believe it to be a 68 or 69 because of the grille compared to  the pictures I have seen online. It looks like it would be a fun project... I don't know what the value is or even if the owner wants to sell...

[timmycharger]

Looks like a 69 based on the side marker lights.  I like it.  It's still a 2dr B Body lots of available sheet metal  

[lukedukem]

Timmy is right. 2 - door b body. Should be fun. Hit him up. Won't know till you ask.

Luke

[JB400]

Same car as a Satellite, RR, or GTX, just doesn't have as many options as the Satellite or GTX.  Looks like a good candidate to make a A12 clone.

[69bronzeT5]

Definitely a '69. Looks to be Q5 Turquoise as well too! Wicked colour on those cars!

[Ponch ®]

i honestly thought belvederes were only 4 doors. Ive never actually seen a 2 door in the wild or even at a car show. theyre all Satellites, GTXs or RR's..but no belvederes. Are they rare or did they all just get junked?

[ACUDANUT]

i honestly thought belvederes were only 4 doors. Ive never actually seen a 2 door in the wild or even at a car show. theyre all Satellites, GTXs or RR's..but no belvederes. Are they rare or did they all just get junked?

I think 1970 was the last 2 door belvedere.  But yes, I have seen plenty 2dr belvedere's.  Great car to clone.

[lukedukem]

Definitely a '69. Looks to be Q5 Turquoise as well too! Wicked colour on those cars!

Didn't think of that but Cody is right, could be Q5 for sure. Sweet color.
My 69 chargers original. 

Luke

[Kern Dog]

Does anyone like them? Hmmm, who cares? Do YOU like them? That is what matters. If someone else likes my car, that is cool but not high on my priority list.

[hemi-hampton]

Looks like a good candidate to fix up if price is right. Go for it.    LEON.

[cooldude]

I remember that car from Cobra, seems like it was a 50 Merc or something.

I bet that old Belvedere would look really tough if it had that kind of treatment to it,even if it didnt have the muscle..

I like them, and I like that particular car in the photo. But I wouldnt try to go back stock OEM on it. No way a Belvedere would resell for what you would have in it for that.

I would say that, that car is a good candidate to be a blank canvass for someones vision of a fun Mopar, and a daily driver machine.

(If it was me, I wouldnt even care if it had a slant six in it. It would still make a great daily driver,cool car, even with a slant six.)

I think I would focus more on looks than performance with this one. And I think the only name badge I would leave on it would simply say, "Plymouth", and let everybody wonder. 

[Mike DC]

 
It easy becomes a '69 RR clone.  What's not to like?

[sccachallenger]

i honestly thought belvederes were only 4 doors. Ive never actually seen a 2 door in the wild or even at a car show. theyre all Satellites, GTXs or RR's..but no belvederes. Are they rare or did they all just get junked?

Nope, all been "restored" into GTX/Road Runners!

[MoParJW]

I would keep it a Belvedere, it's different.
Most cop cars were Belvederes I think?

[johnnycharger]

[johnnycharger]

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[johnnycharger]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

[johnnycharger]

Thanks everyone for the great info and feedback!

[Kern Dog]

FIFTEEN thousand dollars for a car that needs everything???
That is a classic case of a delusional, greedy person trying to ride the 68-70 Charger wave. Realistically, that is a $3500 car at best.

[johnnycharger]

FIFTEEN thousand dollars for a car that needs everything???
That is a classic case of a delusional, greedy person trying to ride the 68-70 Charger wave. Realistically, that is a $3500 car at best.

My thoughts exactly.

[Ryan.C]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

I think 1,500 -2,500 based on the pics 

[Ponch ®]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

The owner probably saw "one just like it but fixed up" on a TV auction sell for $150,000, so he figures hes got a goldmine.

[cooldude]

I predict that car will sit there while the owner tries to get the delusional sum for it.

And it will sit. And it will sit. And it will sit.

Eventually, it will probably be sent to a junkyard or impounded by the city (Who will send it to a junkyard), but only after it is too far gone to restore. From there to the crusher.

Its sort of the same story of the guys that wont sell the old car out back because "Im going to fix it up some day".

Weve all seen them.

Same result eventually...junkyard and crusherville.

[Kern Dog]

Up here, the junkyards are smart about these cars. Anything Mopar 2 door is snatched up and never makes it to the yard.

[hemi-hampton]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

Add him to the list of other delusional sellers.

[alfaitalia]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

I hope you laughed out loud !!

[GreenMachine]

  I'm sure he knows he'll never get $15K, he probably isn't interested in selling it and has had a lot of people asking about it, so he threw out a high number. I would've left a written offer ($2,500) with my phone # attached saying I have cash and a trailer ready, call anytime. Chances are he'll need quick cash one day, or the city will give him a deadline to get it off the street. $2,500 would be on the low side of fair, so room to negotiate. Judging by the car is sitting in the street and the neighborhood and that his "homeboy" answered the door, you can be sure he got it for less than that and probably doesn't have a title.
  Belvedere's were a high trim option in the 50's, in the 60's they were the lowest, I don't think you could even get one in a hardtop.

FWIW, I just bought a '68 Coronet 2 door hardtop for $4,000. It's been off the road for 10 years and needs a trunk pan and a quarter skin, but runs and drives with fairly nice interior.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

I think 1,500 -2,500 based on the pics 

Exactly.

[lukedukem]

So.... I stopped and talked to them today. The owner wasn't there but his "homeboy" (his words not mine) was. It is for sale and the owner wants $15,000.

"Homeboy"
I'm surprised it doesn't have big rims on it, some dubs. Or whatever those are called these days.

Luke

[70 sublime]

I do not see any sign in the window of the car saying FOR SALE
I do see a car sitting with 4 tires that hold air and license plates on it (not sure if they are current but it seems to have a sticker)
If the car is sitting in front of owners house how can anyone give him grief for it being there
Lots of times I have been asked how much $$ to sell some of my stuff
I always give a number of about twice what it is worth just to chase them away  

The dude you talked to is probably laughing with the owner saying " Hey had another guy ask about your car today , should have seen his face when I said $15000   "

[Nacho-RT74]

i honestly thought belvederes were only 4 doors. Ive never actually seen a 2 door in the wild or even at a car show. theyre all Satellites, GTXs or RR's..but no belvederes. Are they rare or did they all just get junked?

[Nacho-RT74]

It easy becomes a '69 RR clone.  What's not to like?

being b pillar post car, yes, big candidate

[Ponch ®]

 I'm sure he knows he'll never get $15K, he probably isn't interested in selling it and has had a lot of people asking about it, so he threw out a high number.

I do it all the time. Weeds out all the stoplight and gas station Richard Rawlings / Count of Cars wannabes who a) dont really have the $ or b) assume you dont know what you have and intend to make you an insultingly low offer.

My car is in the $10-15k range. But im not trying to sell, so i usually say something like "$25k might get me talking". I mean, if they bite at that point...

[Old Moparz]

I do not see any sign in the window of the car saying FOR SALE
I do see a car sitting with 4 tires that hold air and license plates on it (not sure if they are current but it seems to have a sticker)
If the car is sitting in front of owners house how can anyone give him grief for it being there
Lots of times I have been asked how much $$ to sell some of my stuff
I always give a number of about twice what it is worth just to chase them away  

The dude you talked to is probably laughing with the owner saying " Hey had another guy ask about your car today , should have seen his face when I said $15000   "

Exactly what I was thinking. 

Soon the owner of the Belvedere will see his car on the forum in a discussion about how he's a greedy bastard and there will be 16 pages of name calling and Troy will have to lock the thread. 

[birdsandbees]

Based on Nacho's "build list" the Belv wasn't offered in a 2 door post (coupe - rear flip outs), is this a RRunner??  

[Nacho-RT74]

Based on Nacho's "build list" the Belv wasn't offered in a 2 door post (coupe - rear flip outs), is this a RRunner?? 

actually I think you read it wrong or incomplete.. No Belvs Hardtops, just coupes ( last column far right ), so perfect for a B pillar RR clone

[BrianShaughnessy]

A Belvedere is a Satellite is a Road Runner is a GTX...   same basic body.   You "could" clone it into anything you want.

As a running car... it's probably a 318 with an outside chance it's a 383 2 bbl.   But to build a performance car you'd probably end up throwing out the entire drive train.

$5K maybe tops ( it appears mostly rust free from the pics. )      $15K nope nope nope.

[Nacho-RT74]

A Belvedere is a Satellite is a Road Runner is a GTX...   same basic body.   You "could" clone it into anything you want.

thats real, but being a coupe, better ( for actual parts on car and cost, ) keep it on that way and clone on something built on that setup... RR fits perfect.

[Old Moparz]

Don't forget that they were also slant six cars, so you'd need to swap over a ton of other parts if that's what it has.

[birdsandbees]

Based on Nacho's "build list" the Belv wasn't offered in a 2 door post (coupe - rear flip outs), is this a RRunner?? 

actually I think you read it wrong or incomplete.. No Belvs Hardtops, just coupes ( last column far right ), so perfect for a B pillar RR clone

lol .. didn't scroll over, saw Belvedere Satellitte and used that column!