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Which stroker kit

Started by Chargerfreak, December 12, 2016, 12:35:39 PM

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Chargerfreak

Which stroker kit brand is best price quality?

I'm in The Netherlands and Eagle has a importer here, so that would probably be the easiest way to go for me.

Gonna stroke a 440, for only street use. So cruising and the ocasional stoplight..

Thanks,
Chris

Challenger340

"Quality" is subjective to the work performed on ALL the Chinese Stroker Kit Parts ?

Just say'in.... and let's be honest here, ALL the attractively priced Stroker Kits are Chinese Crankshaft and Connecting Rod Forgings.
It is things like the GRIND present on the Crankshaft for example, in my view, that determine the "quality" of what you have to work with ?
NOT uncommon to get Crankshafts that exhibit .0007" to .0008" Taper and Out of Round condition on the Journals, and much variance between Highside and Lowside sizing Journal to Journal ?
Which is basically "shiney" and looks pretty, but Poo-Poo to work with as far as "quality" for blueprinting purposes when you put a Mic to it.

That said....
try Ohio ?, maybe SCAT depending upon who is grinding their Cranks month to month ?

EAGLE are sometimes OK, 440 Source also have good days, unfortunately IMO, just no consistency with any of them ?
Like Forrest Gump said.... "you just never know what you are gonna get" ??
unless,
you just Buck up($) and buy CALLIES or CROWER. Their stuff is "puss" every time in my experience, but you PAY for that Machining Quality !

Just my thoughts, no wars wanted.
Shit WILL run..... and even a blind chicken gets the odd kernel of corn,.... but I just prefer to work with well Machined parts right from the start.
Only wimps wear Bowties !

BSB67

Quote from: Challenger340 on December 12, 2016, 05:45:28 PM

you just Buck up($) and buy CALLIES or CROWER. Their stuff is "puss" every time in my experience, but you PAY for that Machining Quality !


Last time I was at my machine shop he was returning two Callies cranks for defects

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

Challenger340

Quote from: BSB67 on December 12, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 12, 2016, 05:45:28 PM

you just Buck up($) and buy CALLIES or CROWER. Their stuff is "puss" every time in my experience, but you PAY for that Machining Quality !


Last time I was at my machine shop he was returning two Callies cranks for defects

You gotta be kidding me ?
:brickwall:

What were the defects ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

BSB67

Quote from: Challenger340 on December 13, 2016, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: BSB67 on December 12, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 12, 2016, 05:45:28 PM

you just Buck up($) and buy CALLIES or CROWER. Their stuff is "puss" every time in my experience, but you PAY for that Machining Quality !


Last time I was at my machine shop he was returning two Callies cranks for defects

You gotta be kidding me ?
:brickwall:

What were the defects ?

Bob, I don't know, and did not ask.  They were both BB Chevy cranks for one customer's racing program.  The part that was funny is I'm bringing my 440 Source junk through the door at the time he was shipping these back.  His comment was that every supplier, from time to time, will have a problem and he has sent stuff back to every one of them, no matter what end of the $ spectrum.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

alfaitalia

Quote from: BSB67 on December 13, 2016, 06:10:06 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 13, 2016, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: BSB67 on December 12, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 12, 2016, 05:45:28 PM

you just Buck up($) and buy CALLIES or CROWER. Their stuff is "puss" every time in my experience, but you PAY for that Machining Quality !


Last time I was at my machine shop he was returning two Callies cranks for defects


You gotta be kidding me ?
:brickwall:

What were the defects ?

Bob, I don't know, and did not ask.  They were both BB Chevy cranks for one customer's racing program.  The part that was funny is I'm bringing my 440 Source junk through the door at the time he was shipping these back.  His comment was that every supplier, from time to time, will have a problem and he has sent stuff back to every one of them, no matter what end of the $ spectrum.

Very true but the companies should have a QC and checking system that stops in defective items getting out of the factory gate.....and the more expensive the product the more thorough this system should be. With the internet it only takers a few duff ones getting out and the word is all over the web.....your companies great rep can be in tatters in weeks. No excuse for it in this day and age......but it happens all the time in my experience!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Challenger340

I have only had one return on a Crower, which they immediately fixed no charge..... but zero on Callies BB Mopar/HEMI stuff, absolutely beautiful craftsmanship, and when it HAS to be.

Just me I guess...
but 70-80% of the time I am re-machining, or replacing Bearings at the very least to work with the likes of Eagle, Source and other cheapy Kits.
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Brass

To the OP: I have no personal experience but you may want to look at the offerings from Muscle Motors or Mancini Racing.

BSB67

Quote from: Chargerfreak on December 12, 2016, 12:35:39 PM
Which stroker kit brand is best price quality?


I really don't know what you are asking  Generally, it is a continuum.   As price goes up, so does quality, and vise versa.  You just need to decide.  All of the cheap stuff comes from China.  There is no "good" Chinese supplier, and "bad" Chinese supplier.  There is probably only one anyways. 

The cheap stuff is fine for probably anything up to 650 to 700 hp.  But when you take it to the machine shop and your quality oriented machinist tells you that the crank needs some additional machining to make it right, don't fuss about it.  Just pay the man.   You paid almost nothing for it to begin with so you are still way ahead.  This is Just one man's opinion.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph