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Started by 73-Charger-Canada, December 05, 2016, 04:28:52 PM

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73-Charger-Canada

Hi guys, need a little advice. I've got two 84 z28s, both in really good shape. Before you guys lose it, I also have a 1973 Charger 440 with 4 speed! So read on, and tell me what you'd do in my situation.

The current set up is (hard top Brown car, owned for years):
383ci small block, Edelbrock RPM heads and intake, Lunati .500 lift cam, 2500 rpm stall and early 700r4, with the big downside being the 3.23 open 10 bolt rear end with drum brakes. Interior 8/10, Exterior 9.9/10 - best time right now 14.55 in the 1/4. Gonna go a lot faster with a posi, better gear and slicks (or drag radials)

t-top black car (Just bought as a roller)
No motor or trans, but originally a 305 car with a t5. Biggest benefit is a 3.73 posi rear diff with disk brakes. Really clean car, almost zero rust. Interior 9/10, Exterior 9/10.

If it were you guys, would you swap the rear from the black car into the brown car (and vise versa) and go racing? or swap the 383 and 700 into the black car (meaning converting a manual car to auto) and go racing? Whichever car doesn't get the bigger motor gets a mild 305 I have under the bench and the open 3.23 highway rear end. Would love to hear your thoughts!

tan top

swap the 3.73 geared posi axle  into the brown car , & see what it runs ,  be the quickest swap  ,  did you buy the black car for parts or  because your not keen on the brown  color  or making one  good car out the two & sell on ,   whats  left  ??   :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Baldwinvette77

Rear end sounds the quickest and easiest  :yesnod:

Mytur Binsdirti


73-Charger-Canada

Haha, I knew I'd catch some flack for the chevys.  I've owned the brown car for a long time, raced it for two seasons now. Weak link is the rear end. The black car I got for a steal as a roller and it has the decent rear end (3.73 posi with disk brakes), so basically I bought it for the rear end swap.  Now I'm looking at it as which swap would be easier, because it's a better looking cat than I thought it would be.  But ultimately I think I'll do the rear swap and keep racing the brown car, then put a 305 and a stick in the black car, probably just flip it. The charger is my summer cruiser anyway  :2thumbs:

70 sublime

Do not think you would want to race in a T roof car over a hard top
If If If something bad were to happen not sure I would want a glass roof
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green


73-Charger-Canada

Good point about the glass roof for racing, no good. Well it seems like plan A is swap rear ends, go racing in the brown car. probably gut it to the minimum interior stuff, get sticky tires, and go fast ;-)

71charger_fan

I imagine the glass roof would also be heavier than a steel roof.

Sublime/Sixpack

I'd swap rearends, keep the brown one, sell the black one.

1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

73-Charger-Canada

That's sounding like plan A! I'll be doing the swap this winter, then I'll update in the spring with new track times. The more aggressive gear ratio and the posi will make me faster, but i'm just as excited that the disc brakes will keep my wheels in the wheel wells if I should break an axle. The c-clip system isn't exactly brilliant for racing. Who knows, after I sell the black car maybe I'll have enough to buy my dream roadrunner and race that!

JR

Yeah the brown one is definitely the better race car candidate.

The black one would make a fun street car though, it looks good in the pic.

Here's some sweet third gens to motivate you, and to annoy the hardcore Mopar set.



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70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

73-Charger-Canada

Haha! That's too funny. I have the orange one as a poster from the Camaro Performers magazine. Truthfully, the third gen camaro is a really good car to learn on for beginners, especially the pre-86, still carbeurated ones. I couldn't be happier though, now moving into the world of Mopar, there's a nice kind of charisma to the mopar cars. Hoping the next race car is a mopar, either a Duster, or a Roadrunner.

marshallfry01

I don't like third generation camaros or trans-ams. Butt ass ugly. It's not because I'm all mopar, because I'm not. How did they go from a beautiful 69 Camaro to one of these just a few years later?  :eek2:
Only people around my town that drive third generations make love to their sister and their dad and uncle is the same person. Course it is Arkansas....
1969 Charger 383/auto
1969 Charger R/T 440/auto (waiting to be restored)
1972 Chevelle SS clone 383 sbc
1959 Chevy Apache short bed stepside
1968 Charger (glorified parts car)
Yes, I know I have too many cars. My wife reminds me daily.

timmycharger

Not to change the path of this thread, but its sort of related  :icon_smile_big:


Being a fan of the third gen Camaro, there is a good chance you have seen this already  :shruggy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCK7N2SgJjE

BrianShaughnessy

Brown car for racing.   Black car for cruising. 

Just sold my black T-top '89 Formula last week after over 19 years ...  to my friend & paint/body guy who owned it prior to me.

Started as 305 TPI /5 speed/3.45.   I made it into a 350 TPI / 6 speed / 3.70.   Had lotsa fun over the years but I haven't really done much with it since I got Black Betty in '01.   

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

70 sublime

Quote from: timmycharger on December 08, 2016, 04:21:18 PM
Not to change the path of this thread, but its sort of related  :icon_smile_big:


Being a fan of the third gen Camaro, there is a good chance you have seen this already  :shruggy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCK7N2SgJjE

Did you notice the blue Road Runner that was in front of the Camaro ?
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

timmycharger

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 09, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: timmycharger on December 08, 2016, 04:21:18 PM
Not to change the path of this thread, but its sort of related  :icon_smile_big:


Being a fan of the third gen Camaro, there is a good chance you have seen this already  :shruggy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCK7N2SgJjE

Did you notice the blue Road Runner that was in front of the Camaro ?

Not when I first saw the video, someone pointed it out to me after the fact. Wonder where that car is?