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Divorce!

Started by tucknroll, November 04, 2016, 06:12:16 PM

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bee1971

Quote from: tucknroll on November 05, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
She wrecked an suv that I paid for, took the 9 thousand she got from insurance and bought a 40 thousand dollar van without even telling me. My lawyer said that 9 grand is mine. Ill tell her forget the charger and ill forget the minivan

So you have an attorney

Every state is different

What does he/she attorney say about the car and who gets what

Mike DC

 
1.  Sorry this is happening, man.  Sucks.

2.  Get a lawyer who specializes in this stuff.  It sounds like there is more than enough money in play to justify it.

3.   Remember, if you don't have proof of something on paper then it didn't happen.  If the process of getting & keeping documents isn't a tedious PITA then you aren't doing enough.     


Arigmaster

Been there, Done that and yes it sucks... It's the very reason I was forced into selling my '68. Now, I don't know that I will ever be able to get another one because of the crazy money wanted for them now and I don't have the time or energy to build another one any longer..

Sometimes with the divorces... It's not about the actual value of stuff. It turns out to be how badly you can cause pain for the other person by going after what is most precious to them. In my case... I only wanted to do 50/50 on everything. However... She wanted 100% Custody & placement... 50% value of the Charger, and 50 % of my 401K and the house. Then wanted Maint. & Child support on top of all that.

Cost me 48K just to get the 50/50 with my daughter... She fought it tooth and nail. (she was more worried over less support $$ than the well being of our child) She was denied Maint. She got her 1/2 of the 401K. Now with the Charger... A deal was negotiated for a increased balance of the house to compensate for the car. But... That wasn't where she was going... She chased off 3 agents when we were trying to sell it and it ended up in forclosure because she refused any offers on it.

After all was said and done... I was forced to sell it to pay legal fees and I ended up Bankrupt (this was her actual goal) I guess I had to be punished for her getting caught red handed cheating.

It's been 8 years now and I am doing fine. My Daughter is in college and our relationship is mending nicely. I don't know if it's necessary to get completely back to square one by getting another '68. I have the new house, new relationship, mended relationship with my Daughter... All these things have pissed off my Ex because Karma is a real bitch. (The guy she was cheating on me with dumped her ass so no more free ride and I have been done with support for years now)

Ultimately if I did get another one... I think it would be just another thing to piss her off. But... Doing that isn't even the slightest bit important anymore...




VegasCharger

Quote from: Arigmaster on November 05, 2016, 11:01:39 PM
I have the new house, new relationship, mended relationship with my Daughter...

Please do not go there again, marriage #2 or whatever the count would be. Just be boyfriend & girlfriend.

alfaitalia

Lots of bitter men on here!! Just choose right girl in the first place....and don't rush into it or get married too young. I got married for the first and only time when I was forty (was engaged about 8 years before that! lol!).....been married ten years now with a seven year old son. We will all be together til death. Anyone out there reading this about to get married.....don't let the above posts put you off....its not always like that!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Arigmaster

Quote from: alfaitalia on November 06, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
Lots of bitter men on here!! Just choose right girl in the first place....and don't rush into it or get married too young. I got married for the first and only time when I was forty (was engaged about 8 years before that! lol!).....been married ten years now with a seven year old son. We will all be together til death. Anyone out there reading this about to get married.....don't let the above posts put you off....its not always like that!

Any bitter lesson can leave a bad taste in your mouth... Best I can tell anyone going through it is.. "You will get through it." Any relationship be it marriage or otherwise is just like playing the stock market. Sometimes you pick a good one and sometimes you don't.



Lennard

Quote from: alfaitalia on November 06, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
Lots of bitter men on here!! Just choose right girl in the first place....and don't rush into it or get married too young. I got married for the first and only time when I was forty (was engaged about 8 years before that! lol!).....been married ten years now with a seven year old son. We will all be together til death. Anyone out there reading this about to get married.....don't let the above posts put you off....its not always like that!
But it often is.  "Just choose the right girl in the first place." My crystal ball broke a long time ago, so I'm not taking the chance of getting legally robbed ever again.

alfaitalia

.....yeah but I took eighteen years between meeting her and marrying her to find out and make absolutely certain!!! LOL......you cant rush into these things. I bet half these divorced guys were married within two or three years of meeting......waaaaayyyy too fast imo! You just cant REALLY know anyone in that short a time.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Daytona R/T SE


Chargen69

a 20 footer is worth more than 9

469 runner

Just grab them by the puss.  Really, I would get a professional appraisal on the Charger. Just so she can't come back at you with undervaluing the car.  I think 30 thousand is a little high for the condition you describe and being a 383 2 barrel car.  Good luck.

A383Wing

I'm taking orders...money needed for cars

djcarguy

Quote from: A383Wing on November 06, 2016, 08:52:05 PM
I'm taking orders...money needed for cars
:D :scratchchin:  HOW MUCH extra for flattening,fold an press ??  do you pickup or delivery only???   ha ha just kidding...... 2 xx es  special rate??        :scratchchin:  :shruggy: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:

Supercharged Riot

Sorry. I don't know how divorces go but why would you be forced to sell it if you intend to keep it? Even in a divorce

Wasco

My step-dad lost his '68 in his divorce over 20 years ago and he's still pissed.  It didn't help that her boyfriend proceeded to wreck it and then she tried to sell it back to him!  I don't think there are any 'market accurate' value guides out there, really, without an appraisal.  but as mentioned, those can be wildly inaccurate as well.  I've heard of people putting their car up on eBay with many pictures and an accurate description with a huge reserve and seeing where the bidding goes.  I guess that would be one way to test the market for the car.

Mytur Binsdirti


Dreamcar

I've had two appraisers look at my cars. Both times they ask me "what do you think?" before they give me their opinion. Have the NADA guide ready and say "about 9k" if he asks. Less chance he'll balloon the value to 30.

Good luck btw.
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

Mike DC

QuoteSorry. I don't know how divorces go but why would you be forced to sell it if you intend to keep it? Even in a divorce

The car gets grouped in with the couple's "joint assets" acquired during the marriage, which means it should be divided equally.  The husband doesn't have enough cash on hand to pay her half of its value (since he is already neck-deep in expenses over the rest of the divorce.  She probably got awarded the kids too, which means he will be required to pay her more money for support.  Etc. )  The car ends up getting sold for cash or awarded to her.  It happens all the time.

If you're not familiar with the US divorce situation, the law has turned against men in the last generation or two.  It doesn't always punish the husband but it certainly can do that if the wife wants it to. 

I can't remember the last time I heard a story about a wife getting an unfair legal screwing in a divorce.  Everyone knows at least one or two men who have gotten screwed.

crj1968

Quote from: Supercharged Riot on November 07, 2016, 10:55:19 AM
Sorry. I don't know how divorces go but why would you be forced to sell it if you intend to keep it? Even in a divorce

True he wouldn't have to sell the car, but would have to pony up half of what it's worth, which maybe he doesn't have.    :shruggy:

My bro just went through same thing. He gave up his part in home equity to keep some material things (cars) that were important to him.

41husk

I gave up 100% of the house we lived in and most of my (Our) cash to keep my cars and rental property.  She made me pay for appraisals on 3 of the cars and property.  She took old car guide prices on the projects.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Aero426

Quote from: Chargen69 on November 06, 2016, 09:35:52 AM
a 20 footer is worth more than 9

Yes.   9k sounds like the 50 percent off friends and family discount.   

tucknroll

Guys here's the short version.  I built our house 10 years ago and I owe 120,000 but it appraised for 285! That leaves 82000 in equity for each of us. She don't want the house but wants her 82. I bought a 98 dakota brand new and still drive it but the kids don't fit in the single cab so I bought the charger about 4 years ago and it's my daily driver unless I'm hauling the dogs or something.  She had a 05 Lincoln that we both paid for and totaled it, got 9k for it which was half mine, went out without asking or telling and bought a 40k minivan!  Now I owe about 7k on the charger and she owes about 30 on the van. She want half my 401k, half the value of the charger  and half the equity on the house. The one thing we've agreed on is 50/50 with the kids. It's a nightmare. I was the one who actually filed. I offered 70k to just leave but she's contesting for more. There ain't no more!!

1969 R/T SE

Reason I'm never getting married ^  :yesnod: :yesnod:

And FYI screw your wife :flame:

polywideblock

just remember that age old saying " why are divorces so expensive , because there worth it " :Twocents:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Kern Dog

I have known some guys that say...."I'm never getting married". They have often been fat, ugly, bald and have no money. Who would want them ???  :smilielol: