69 Charger R/T 440 four speed ... with AC ?

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 looks like a factory installed AC set up ...& not the usual dealer installed type !   ......   interesting   ......   

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-/122163021185?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c717bc581:g:SkAAAOSwI2xX8akR&item=122163021185

looks good though ,  

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[6bblgt]

BAD fender tag  wonder what came first the 4-speed or the A/C? 

good lookin' Charger though!

[Monsoon Chopper]

BAD fender tag  wonder what came first the 4-speed or the A/C? 

good lookin' Charger though!

Out of curiosity, why do you say it's a BAD fender tag?

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BAD fender tag   wonder what came first the 4-speed or the A/C?  

good lookin' Charger though!

Out of curiosity, why do you say it's a BAD fender tag?

 a number of things wrong  don't Add up   , &   or the fender tag is from a completely different charger ....   shame really don't look a bad car from the pictures  

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[DixieRestoParts]

Dodge and Plymouth, did not allow 440,  4-spd and a/c. It was a warranty issue. They were afraid of the RV2 compressor exploding during over revs, downshifts, etc. The original owner of my F3 R/T SE wanted both and Dodge told him to choose. He chose the 4-spd. 

[LeesRT]

I haven't looked up any of the numbers on the data plate yet, but I see an 8-3/4 rear when it should be a Dana 60 with a 4-speed car as well.

[LeesRT]

After scoping the data plate out, I think the car has a wrong data plate.  I think it was a 440 auto car with A/C and someone added the 4-speed later on.  The data plate would probably have an A06 code for A/C I believe.  That's just my 2 cents in the 5 minutes I've looked at this.

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more info here  , from Barrys awesome website 
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/SalesmansPocketGuides/1969/69_Charger_3.jpg


http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1969SalesmansPocketGuidesDodge-01.shtml

[moparnation74]

Vehicle numbers aside......

There are a lot of things wrong/incorrect on this car.  This was a very rusty ride before panels were "slapped" on it....

[moparfan53]

Dodge and Plymouth, did not allow 440,  4-spd and a/c. It was a warranty issue. They were afraid of the RV2 compressor exploding during over revs, downshifts, etc. The original owner of my F3 R/T SE wanted both and Dodge told him to choose. He chose the 4-spd. 

I have heard this before as an explanation, but then I have to ask... Why then, could you get a 383 4-spd with a/c? 

[6bblgt]

Dodge and Plymouth, did not allow 440,  4-spd and a/c. It was a warranty issue. They were afraid of the RV2 compressor exploding during over revs, downshifts, etc. The original owner of my F3 R/T SE wanted both and Dodge told him to choose. He chose the 4-spd.  

I have heard this before as an explanation, but then I have to ask... Why then, could you get a 383 4-spd with a/c?  

I think it was also an issue on the power side during acceleration
& because the torque curve of the 383 did NOT have the acceleration capability in a 3,500lb+ car (most 383 4-spd cars are 3.23 geared & A/C was NOT available w/3.91s, ALL e/b-body 440 4-spd cars are 3.54 or 4.10)

[Wingnut426]

I read somewhere A/C cars would not get stiffer gears than 3:23s because the engine would wind up to fast and throw the belts.    WINGNUT