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Would you say this is a factory black car or not?

Started by paironines, August 20, 2016, 10:24:54 PM

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paironines

View the pics and give opinion because I'm undecided. Thanks.

Scaregrabber

I don't think so. The black paint isn't bonded to that red primer like it would if it was factory applied.

Sheldon

6bblgt

 :Twocents: based on those pics - BLACK car
it looks like the red is on top of the black on the trunk floor, first rustoleum coverage when the trunk floor stated to rust  :scratchchin:

the black filler tube is the only item that points to repaint

Mopar Nut

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polywideblock



  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

paironines

I just couldn't tell if the trunk floor was burnt orange or red primer or whatever before the resto as I've never seen the car in person. These are pics of the 70 V code Charger that is 110k on ebay right now. If it's a black car then so be it. I did inquire about this car maybe 3 years ago and at the time there was no engine or trans. Now it's a numbers matching original. 

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tan top

Quote from: paironines on August 21, 2016, 06:34:09 AM
I just couldn't tell if the trunk floor was burnt orange or red primer or whatever before the resto as I've never seen the car in person. These are pics of the 70 V code Charger that is 110k on ebay right now. If it's a black car then so be it. I did inquire about this car maybe 3 years ago and at the time there was no engine or trans. Now it's a numbers matching original.  

looks  like a original black car  ,

although  at first look ,  just the trunk floor ,  can see what your saying about  the red/burnt orange stuff !being under the black , closer I looked , its on top of the black , i think !! although sort of looks like underneath too on my screen :scratchchin:   , its a original black car though  :yesnod:


is this the one on ebay ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-RT-/162175222287?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25c265820f:g:vK0AAOSwgZ1XuGLW&item=162175222287
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cbrestorations

lol busted...you saw the car 3 years ago and it had no drivetrain...it just miraculously appeared for this guy to restore it original then  :rofl:

paironines

Yeah that's the one. Not the current seller, but the one I talked to before, wouldn't discuss or show any more hidden areas like door jambs so I always wondered what the deal was since I didnt get to see the car before it sold. The rocker area seems like it's a black car. The trunk floor seems more burnt orange but who knows. Yes it definately had no engine or transmission before so I'd love to hear the reuniting story on that one....
Wasn't Dave Wise mentioned on the sublime 6 pack with AC car a few years ago or am I thinking of someone else?

Davtona

Quote from: paironines on August 21, 2016, 03:23:23 PM

Wasn't Dave Wise mentioned on the sublime 6 pack with AC car a few years ago or am I thinking of someone else?


Yes he was and he vouched for the authenticity of that one of none car also.  :eek2:   Now we have a car that was previously missing its numbers matching motor and trans but now it magically has them. I'm not seeing any photos of the motor or transmission VIN numbers. Why not on a car of this caliber?   ::)


6bblgt


polywideblock

110 K and no fender tag or broadcast sheet pics   hmmmm


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

doctor4766

Gotta love a '69


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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html


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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

paironines

Yes the car had a fender tag when I inquired about it. I'll post a pic of it tonight when I get home.

sdweatherman

Just looking at the bracket on top of the inner wheel well, and the trunk torsion bar bracket and bars themselves - looks like a factory black car to me. Scott.
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polywideblock



  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

paironines

The tag says it's a black car. I was just wondering if it was rebodied in the past all the with the orange color in the trunk. Maybe it's legit.

DAY CLONA

Nice car, nice color combo, and it's the best of the 2nd gen Chargers to boot, the poverty caps however should be tossed  :eek2: 

Homerr

QuoteCode   Description
E87   440-6 Barrel High Preformance
D32   H-D A-727 TorqueFlite Trans / Some Years A-998
XS29   
X = Dodge Charger
S = Special
29 = 2 Door Sports Hardtop
V0G   
V = 440 390HP 3-2BBL 8 CYL
0 = 1970
G = St. Louis, MO, USA
184803   Sequence Number '184803'
TX9   
Paint Code: Black / Black Velvet
C6XA   
Trim Grade/Style/Color
C = Charger
6 = Vinyl Bucket Seats
X = Black
TX9   Upper Door Frame: Black / Black Velvet
202   Date Built: 2 / 02 / 1970
053738   Order Number: 053738
TX9   Roof Type OR Color:  Black / Black Velvet
A36   3.55:1 High Preformence Axle Package
B51   Power Assisted Brakes
C16   Console w/ Buckets
C55   Bucket Seats
G33   Left Hand Outside Mirror - Manual / Chrome
J25   3 Speed Variable Wipers
J45   Hood Tie Down Pins
M21   Roof Drip Rail Moldings
M31   Belt Molding 69-70
R11   Music Master Radio AM
V8R   Tranverse Stripes, Red
26   26 in. Radiator
END   End of Codes

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