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Preventing fender tag theft

Started by 70-500-SE-EXPORT, August 19, 2016, 11:24:37 AM

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70-500-SE-EXPORT

After a friend had his fender tag stolen at a car show I have always worried about someone walking away with mine so I filled the Philips head screws with clear gel superglue! That will make it a lot harder for them to walk away with it and you cant tell its there. 
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6bblgt

JB Weld on the screw threads from the bottom will make the screws more difficult to remove also.

Mopar Nut

Get some Trident tamper-resistant security screws
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I took mine off and put it away.  I have a factory disk brake car and that is the only thing that proves it

Charger_Fan

Tack weld it on. :2thumbs:



Just kidding, of course. :icon_smile_big: You could always have a duplicate tag made & keep your original at home.

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cbrestorations

whats sad is we even have to talk about this... :rotz:

JR

Quote from: cbrestorations on August 19, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
whats sad is we even have to talk about this... :rotz:

X2.

I've left mine at home in the safe for years now. Plus I get the enjoyment of disappointing numbers hunters that walk right up to my car and go straight for the numbers like they're out to bust me for something. I've even gone to leaving the vin covered with electrical tape or other stuff sometimes just for my own amusement.

Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.
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Quote from: JR on August 19, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.
:iagree:

cbrestorations

yea i dont like the facebook guys who are always hounding people for fender tag pics everytime a car pops up. i have asked for a pic a few times but it was only because i thought the guy was full of shit claiming it was a hemi car, and sure enough they wont post it, even with vin covered

Brock Lee

Quote from: 6bblgt on August 19, 2016, 12:09:37 PM
JB Weld on the screw threads from the bottom will make the screws more difficult to remove also.

No, it wont at all. Sheetmetal screws are self tapping.

The trident screws are a great idea. Looks possible and adds security.

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Chargerguy74

Quote from: JR on August 19, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.

I love numbers and love knowing how a car came off the line. I always look at fender tags at shows. Been that way since I was a teen. That's how I get my jollies. Maybe I need help  :shruggy:
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I like the idea catching crooks.  --- Maybe a trigger can be rigged to take a picture at the same time as a taser hit does it's thing :o
It would make a great video clip too.


John_Kunkel

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

daveco

Replace the self tapping screw with a machine screw and install a self locking nut on the back side.

    ...and why in the world would someone steal a fender tag??? :shruggy:
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Quote from: daveco on August 19, 2016, 03:19:09 PM
Replace the self tapping screw with a machine screw and install a self locking nut on the back side.

    ...and why in the world would someone steal a fender tag??? :shruggy:

People will steal just for the sake of stealing.

The machine screws are a good idea. I would use a flat washer and regular nut on the back side with some strong thread lock. That way the screw will just spin from the top. One would have to access the nut from the back to break the thread lock.


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I made a copy of my original using fiberglass body filler. Make a small mold using plaster of the genuine, remove and fill using basically any kind of filler you like. Mine came out amazing! There are pics on the A12 forum somewhere but I can't find them.
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Quote from: JR on August 19, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on August 19, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
whats sad is we even have to talk about this... :rotz:

X2.

I've left mine at home in the safe for years now. Plus I get the enjoyment of disappointing numbers hunters that walk right up to my car and go straight for the numbers like they're out to bust me for something. I've even gone to leaving the vin covered with electrical tape or other stuff sometimes just for my own amusement.

Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.

+1 :slap:

RallyeMike

QuoteJust pop rivet it on.

That's what I ended up doing on one car. I used aluminum rivets and had to file them a little narrower so they didn't ruin the original screw holes.
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Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on August 19, 2016, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: JR on August 19, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on August 19, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
whats sad is we even have to talk about this... :rotz:

X2.

I've left mine at home in the safe for years now. Plus I get the enjoyment of disappointing numbers hunters that walk right up to my car and go straight for the numbers like they're out to bust me for something. I've even gone to leaving the vin covered with electrical tape or other stuff sometimes just for my own amusement.

Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.

+1 :slap:

+2

I do the same thing....

Highbanked Hauler

   Who makes a repro tag and what does it cost ? Mine is so fragile with rust I have it locked away. I have one from a car I scraped years ago I should paint and put on for amusement.
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polywideblock

could you grind the "point" off the screws  cut a slot and "split " them like a split pin,  preventing their removal


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VegasCharger

Quote from: Charger_Fan on August 19, 2016, 12:30:10 PM
Tack weld it on. :2thumbs:



Just kidding, of course. :icon_smile_big: You could always have a duplicate tag made & keep your original at home.

:iagree:

Even one better, have a fender tag made up to read something like this......

DUE TO THE IGNORANCE OF
SOME PEOPLE MY FENDER TAG
IS SAFE AT HOME AND THIS TAG
WILL HAVE TO SUFFICE THANKS

......using the correct embosses and fonts lol.

Park your Charger at the show, pop the hood, leave the area within close range, double back and approach your own car as if you were a spectator. And then just watch the idiot's looks on their faces upon reading your gag tag.

I would even secure the gimmick tag as some one would probably would want to steal that one as well.

:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

fc7_plumcrazy

Quote from: Chargerguy74 on August 19, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
Quote from: JR on August 19, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Theres a certain group of Mopar guys that get off on numbers who I'll never understand.

I love numbers and love knowing how a car came off the line. I always look at fender tags at shows. Been that way since I was a teen. That's how I get my jollies. Maybe I need help  :shruggy:

you are not alone.
I love to check out fender tags, look for oddities or just how a car has changed from day I till now.
To each their own

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Quote from: John_Kunkel on August 19, 2016, 02:46:17 PM

Just pop rivet it on.

:iagree:   thought about doing the rivet thing  to mine , but decided to put a big dollop og windshield glue / pu sealer under it , before I screwed it down  :yesnod:
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stripedelete

Never put mine back on.   I tape a "pencil rub" on the fender when I care if someone cares.

Homerr

I love Chargers, numbers, and originality.  But I'm glad to see a repro tag, rivets, or some other means more secure than factory screws holding the tag on.

As for the numbers, I like seeing what originally the factory built.  Then I look the car over to see what has been changed, just out of curiosity.  Ma Mopar put a tag on the cars so they're part of the lore.  I don't care if you replaced your green interior with black and the 318 with a 440.  To me it can all be a starting point for a conversation on what was done to the car.

XH29N0G



Someone here must be able to make a device that energizes those screws to 50,000 volts. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

cbrestorations

my dad kept getting the radio stolen out of his 68 z28 when he was 20. so one night he parked the car in the lawn, flooded the grass,  ran a 220v cord out to the car and attached one leed to the body, the other in the wet grass. said he heard something that night and burnt skin on his door handle. lol

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on August 19, 2016, 09:41:06 PM
   Who makes a repro tag and what does it cost ? Mine is so fragile with rust I have it locked away. I have one from a car I scraped years ago I should paint and put on for amusement.
http://www.datatags.com/  :cheers:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

CRW-FK5

Quote from: VegasCharger on August 20, 2016, 02:27:24 AM
Quote from: Charger_Fan on August 19, 2016, 12:30:10 PM
Tack weld it on. :2thumbs:



Just kidding, of course. :icon_smile_big: You could always have a duplicate tag made & keep your original at home.

:iagree:

Even one better, have a fender tag made up to read something like this......

DUE TO THE IGNORANCE OF
SOME PEOPLE MY FENDER TAG
IS SAFE AT HOME AND THIS TAG
WILL HAVE TO SUFFICE THANKS

......using the correct embosses and fonts lol.

Park your Charger at the show, pop the hood, leave the area within close range, double back and approach your own car as if you were a spectator. And then just watch the idiot's looks on their faces upon reading your gag tag.

I would even secure the gimmick tag as some one would probably would want to steal that one as well.

:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Man, dude.  You must have had a bad experience or something if you assume anyone interested in looking at your fender tag is an idiot.  I love reading the tags.  Keep you hood closed if it bothers you that much.

HANDM

Quote from: cbrestorations on August 20, 2016, 12:17:15 PM
my dad kept getting the radio stolen out of his 68 z28 when he was 20. so one night he parked the car in the lawn, flooded the grass,  ran a 220v cord out to the car and attached one leed to the body, the other in the wet grass. said he heard something that night and burnt skin on his door handle. lol

If you tried that in this day and age, you'd be arrested, sued and have the ACLU and various other govt agencies up your ass in an instant..... It would be awesome to do it though  :smilielol:

moparnation74

Quote from: Homerr on August 20, 2016, 10:52:09 AM
I love Chargers, numbers, and originality.  But I'm glad to see a repro tag, rivets, or some other means more secure than factory screws holding the tag on.

As for the numbers, I like seeing what originally the factory built.  Then I look the car over to see what has been changed, just out of curiosity.  Ma Mopar put a tag on the cars so they're part of the lore.  I don't care if you replaced your green interior with black and the 318 with a 440.  To me it can all be a starting point for a conversation on what was done to the car.
Well put and could not agree more...... :2thumbs:

cdr

Quote from: moparnation74 on August 20, 2016, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: Homerr on August 20, 2016, 10:52:09 AM
I love Chargers, numbers, and originality.  But I'm glad to see a repro tag, rivets, or some other means more secure than factory screws holding the tag on.

As for the numbers, I like seeing what originally the factory built.  Then I look the car over to see what has been changed, just out of curiosity.  Ma Mopar put a tag on the cars so they're part of the lore.  I don't care if you replaced your green interior with black and the 318 with a 440.  To me it can all be a starting point for a conversation on what was done to the car.
Well put and could not agree more...... :2thumbs:


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  How about if you take it to a show ....keep an eye on who is hanging over your engine compartment!!!!!!

polywideblock

what if you want to have a look around  the show


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Quote from: CRW-FK5 on August 20, 2016, 03:55:03 PM
Man, dude.  You must have had a bad experience or something if you assume anyone interested in looking at your fender tag is an idiot.  I love reading the tags.  Keep you hood closed if it bothers you that much.

Chill dude I was just joking.......................

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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Saw a 1969 Charger at a show yesterday. This thread made me look at the fender tag. Car was NOT restored to the tag  :scratchchin:

Homerr

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on August 21, 2016, 08:29:16 AM
Saw a 1969 Charger at a show yesterday. This thread made me look at the fender tag. Car was NOT restored to the tag  :scratchchin:

Few are.  The trick is not to get judgmental about it.

DixieRestoParts

If you have a super nice car (or just care about your car), I wouldn't advise leaving it alone at a show/cruise-in for a multitude of reasons besides a fender tag. Yes, that requires someone to watch your car while you look around. That being said, I like the idea of a repro fender tag with the original put up. I keep my originals with my build sheet in a fire safe. Mainly because they've been off the cars for years while doing research for the restoration's.  

I love looking at fender tags at shows and seeing the options the car came with and the build date. I like to see if it was an ordered car. I don't really care if the guy restored it to the tag, but I do get a kick out of how many Red and Black cars I see that were originally Green. As the owner of an F3 car that's been told it's ugly since 1982, I can understand why someone might want a different color. I don't give them any flak about it. When accosted that I should change my car's color or that it's ugly, I usually respond something like, Dodge didn't ask me what color to paint it in 1969, or I would have advised different. However, since they didn't, it'll stay the color it is.
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Quote from: DixieRestoParts on August 21, 2016, 09:40:49 AM
When accosted that I should change my car's color or that it's ugly, I usually respond something like, Dodge didn't ask me what color to paint it in 1969, or I would have advised different. However, since they didn't, it'll stay the color it is.
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Here's my copy I made using body filler.

Pretty easy process.

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