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a true diamond in the rough

Started by ht4spd307, July 21, 2016, 05:02:27 PM

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ht4spd307

I've now seen it all  :eek2: a true diamond in the rough ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/182212898791?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2a6cbc2fe7:g:yhcAAOSwRgJXkF8d&item=182212898791
i actually cant believe I'm saying this but i wish this car got crushed and turned into a Hyundai

tan top

 :scratchchin: :popcrn:
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ws23rt

Thanks again tan top :2thumbs:

Actually I enjoy seeing pictures like this as much as I do seeing the finished car. ;)---I guess this might be the same sort of thing that slows traffic when there's a wreck out of the traffic lanes. :scratchchin:

This one is more complete than most and therfore more -completely -done/finished-. :D   If one gathers a tooth here and a bone there--poof-- the beast lives again. :lol:


Mike DC

Quotei actually cant believe I'm saying this but i wish cars like this would just get crushed and turned into a Hyundai

. . . and the next time you need a piece off an old Charger, you can get it from . . . a $35,000 restored car?  


The reproduction parts industry still makes tons of stuff that is full-price and half-quality.  
Buying all the little nuts & bolts hardware for a resto brand-new would add up to a fortune.  
Sometimes you need a random chunk cut off a unibody for one reason or another.  
People build tube chassis racecars and just need the roof & doorjambs of an old body.

IMO we still need the junk.  As much as we can get.  


ws23rt

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 21, 2016, 05:50:41 PM
Quotei actually cant believe I'm saying this but i wish cars like this would just get crushed and turned into a Hyundai

. . . and the next time you need a piece off an old Charger, you can get it from . . . a $35,000 restored car?  


The reproduction parts industry still makes tons of stuff that is full-price and half-quality.  
Buying all the little nuts & bolts hardware for a resto brand-new would add up to a fortune.  
Sometimes you need a random chunk cut off a unibody for one reason or another.  
People build tube chassis racecars and just need the roof & doorjambs of an old body.

IMO we still need the junk.  As much as we can get.  




:2thumbs:  This car is toast as a car goes but it's a donor.

ht4spd307


Quotei actually cant believe I'm saying this but i wish cars like this would just get crushed and turned into a Hyundai

. . . and the next time you need a piece off an old Charger, you can get it from . . . a $35,000 restored car?  


The reproduction parts industry still makes tons of stuff that is full-price and half-quality.  
Buying all the little nuts & bolts hardware for a resto brand-new would add up to a fortune.  
Sometimes you need a random chunk cut off a unibody for one reason or another.  
People build tube chassis racecars and just need the roof & doorjambs of an old body.

IMO we still need the junk.  As much as we can get.  
yes your correct in saying we need parts off junk cars but by the time this auction ends & the price it sells for this is no longer junk parts prices so the resale price of parts from this car will bring the parts inline with new parts.catch 22

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VegasCharger

Quote from: ht4spd307 on July 21, 2016, 06:04:35 PM
IMO we still need the junk.  As much as we can get.  
yes your correct in saying we need parts off junk cars but by the time this auction ends & the price it sells for this is no longer junk parts prices so the resale price of parts from this car will bring the parts inline with new parts.catch 22

No I wouldn't want this to go to the crusher, but I wouldn't pay $5000.00 for it either as it may go for that by the time the auction ends. Considering that this went for 9k anything is possible.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger-/331906159565?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=uhK%252Bg0p6Ndz2mD5%252FsNRnHeBwAEc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc


But the last time I checked they're not re-popping dash frames, seat frames, steering columns etc.  This is almost a complete car with lots of good parts on it. And that's not even knowing what the drive train is.

If I could get to my doorstep for 2k sign me up.

:cheers:

FY1 Charger

That guy has 2 more chargers sitting next to that one.

keepat

Quote from: FY1 Charger on July 21, 2016, 06:52:43 PM
That guy has 2 more chargers sitting next to that one.

Looks to be 4 chargers in his yard!
Pat

Mike DC

  
QuoteConsidering that this went for 9k anything is possible.

Give that car 3 gallons of (obvious) bondo & a tractor enamel paintjob, and everyone would have been bidding $15,000.  That was never a throwaway car. 

Brock Lee

QuoteA True diamond in the rough for those with a good eye.

More like a wild imagination...

ht4spd307

should be listed under garden ornaments

hemi-hampton

Somebody will buy it. Then spend the next 10 years & $30,000 trying to restore it. Only to realize they are not even half done. Then throw it on ebay as a nice easy to finish Father & Son Project. How many times have we seen that. LEON.

RallyeMike

That description is funny as hell whether meant to be or not  :lol:
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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JR

Quote from: ht4spd307 on July 21, 2016, 05:02:27 PM

i actually cant believe I'm saying this but i wish this car got crushed and turned into a Hyundai

Really? :brickwall:
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

redgum78

"Uncommon to find such a workable project......"

I guess it is all in how you define "workable". There is certainly a massive amount of work required.

But I agree, it is far too useful to crush.

tan top

Quote from: VegasCharger on July 21, 2016, 06:36:37 PM
Quote from: ht4spd307 on July 21, 2016, 06:04:35 PM
IMO we still need the junk.  As much as we can get.  
yes your correct in saying we need parts off junk cars but by the time this auction ends & the price it sells for this is no longer junk parts prices so the resale price of parts from this car will bring the parts inline with new parts.catch 22

No I wouldn't want this to go to the crusher, but I wouldn't pay $5000.00 for it either as it may go for that by the time the auction ends. Considering that this went for 9k anything is possible.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger-/331906159565?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=uhK%252Bg0p6Ndz2mD5%252FsNRnHeBwAEc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc


But the last time I checked they're not re-popping dash frames, seat frames, steering columns etc.  This is almost a complete car with lots of good parts on it. And that's not even knowing what the drive train is.

If I could get to my doorstep for 2k sign me up.

:cheers:


the price of what these cars are selling for is nutts  imo :yesnod:

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tan top

Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 21, 2016, 11:22:49 PM
Somebody will buy it. Then spend the next 10 years & $30,000 trying to restore it. Only to realize they are not even half done. Then throw it on ebay as a nice easy to finish Father & Son Project. How many times have we seen that. LEON.


true  :yesnod:
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crj1968

crazy price for something in that shape. I guess that's what you get for 10K in the 2nd gen world these days.   :shruggy:



Mike DC

           
That steampunk riveted '68 is a complete car.  Maybe not even too far from running condition if the body wasn't crumbling off it so badly.  That's worth a fair bit more than the sum of the parts, especially with complete stuff like that becoming harder to find on anything that isn't already restored.  If you are eyeballing it and trying to add up which parts you want then you're not counting everything it offers for some buyers.  

Try flipping through a Year One catalog and just looking at "little stuff" like brackets & hardware.  You can add up thousands of bucks in a matter of minutes.

If it was a Camaro or Mustang it would be a perfect candidate for a Dynacorn replacement unibody.  


crj1968

Yeah from that perspective you are correct.


From the perspective of restoring it, it would eat up $20K without blinking.  It's interesting to me as I've got a really solid, great running 70...a couple guys have posted "looking to buy a 70..."
I've responded and thrown out a ball park price (mid 20's) and never heard back from them (which is fine...I've always been on the fence about selling anyway) But then I see stuff like this pull in $10K that needs $20K in parts and who knows how many hours of labor.     :shruggy:




Mike DC

  
It's true that the cheapest complete projects are overpriced compared to the amount of work they need.  

A $30 car is done.  A $20 car needs another $15.  But a car that needs $25 doesn't sell for $5, it sells for $15.  


There is more demand for cars the cheaper you get.  People have a hard time putting together bigger piles of money at once.  (Therefore banks & credit cards exist.)

I'm just saying there is more to valuing a project car than just computing what it would take for a pro to put it back to stock.

sunfire69


charger_fan_4ever


70 sublime

I have 4 Dodge Chargers. 3 of which are in rough condition, but totally restorable and certain to be a profitable venture for someone. My intention were to line up restoration projects for the next year but with my own knowledge of the projects or even the cars or mechanics being limited, when the person I had in charge of the process decided to bow, I was left holding the reassured bag of crap. So - firstly the 3 are 68-69 Dodge Chargers. all 3 have Free and Clear Titles in hand. They have motors in them as well as an array of different things going for them. One has the original Charger seats. Most all the glass is there. Lots of the original molding and much more. I want $15k for the three of them together. That's just breaking even and am not interested in taking make for offers. By all mean feel to make and offer, but be aware I'm not trying to profit here as much as I am just trying to get out from underneath them. The forth Charger is quite a bit better shape and if I was introduced to the right person would still possibly be interested in doing it up right or at least doing enough to it to make some easy profit. I have quite a bit for parts as well for all em. I bought 3 manual transmission that I have on hand. Each worth quite a bit. Also some '70 fenders that are hard to get ahold of. Just looking for someone who's interested buy the whole lot of it, but will gladly split up for the right offer. I also have a 1967 GTO that has been being worked on for 2 months. It's currently in the final stages of body work nearing the paint stage and I may have interest in selling it as well. It has about $7k in parts already purchased and on hand. Please call
show contact info
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I wonder which one he thinks is in the better shape ??
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green


Brock Lee

Yeah, it is hard to make sense of it. It appears he wants $20K for the 4, $15K for 3?

QuoteI have 4 Dodge Chargers. 3 of which are in rough condition
So - firstly the 3 are 68-69 Dodge Chargers
I want $15k for the three of them together.
The forth Charger is quite a bit better shape


FWIW, I suspect the fourth Charge is the gleaming diamond in the rough on ebay?

lloyd3

When I was just a teenager, piling up a collection of parts and then working like a dog to put them all together into a functioning vehicle wasn't all that far-fetched. I know several friends that did-it successfully (they would have been walking otherwise, myself included).  I believe that process is still alive and well today with more-recent vehicular offerings (say...w/i the last 20-years, or so) in that the parts needed are "relatively" cheap and readily available. IMHO, doing that now with a 2nd generation Charger borders on the certifiably insane.  If you really want one of these cars, buying one that isn't a complete roach to start with is really....the only way to go for most of us.

There are folks that might fit into what can only be called an "exception". They already possess the technical know-how, the tools, the good place to do it (no small thing), and have accumulated the significant (and now very obscure!) pile of requisite parts to pull it off successfully. Even with all of that, the time and money needed to get to completion will be quite significant, maybe $30K (maybe more).  Do yourself a favor, protect your family situation (& your sanity), buy them close-to (if not already) done and drive-able.

70 sublime

Re listed

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/182223252550

Item condition:Used
Time left: Time left: 4d 08h Tuesday, 17:20
Starting bid:US $2,500.00
Approximately C $3,297.25
[ 0 bids ]
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

ht4spd307


charger_fan_4ever

To me your buying a set of used scratched up glass and some windshield mouldings and a dash frame. Whats "there" or original parts are junk throw away.