Who's replaced their power steering box? And with what/ results

[b5blue]

Sooo....970.00 plus shipping? (Box/fittings/adapter)

[myk]

Yeah it's pricey.  I'm not going to be able to swing it until 4th quarter of this year.  I'm worried that if I wait that long they'll run into more production/supply issues, though.

[Derwud]

Waiting for my Borgenson box and adapter. Firm Feel and Steer & Gear do a great job putting lipstick on a pig....

What are your complaints on the Firm Feel and Steer & Gear?

Old tech, old parts.. I want new, I have driven the best of the 70's and the worst of the 90's, the 90's car steer and handle better on their worst day than 70's on their best day..

That is blunt, but I agree.  I have high expectations out of my car with aftermarket suspension, chassis stiffening, and the Borgenson box.      
I put a Borgenson on my car but I'm still doing the restoration so I won't be able to test it anytime soon. 

I have driven my car in 1980 and in 82'ish with a fresh front-end rebuild and alignment, I remember it felt great, but even on it's best day, can't compete with how my 2005 truck feels with 80K miles on it! Yes, my truck would out handle my Charger from back in the day. Don't get me started on shipping cars without sway bars and how they felt!

[b5blue]

Looks a lot like a Jeep box?

[Mopar Nut]

Lol, Derwud posted the link and the image of the coupler that I'm talking about on this page,  but I'll post it again for everyone:

Consider the Borgeson.  Lighter, smaller and it has the built in quick ratio too.  It does cost some more, but I'm told that the steering feel is completely modern with excellent feedback.  That's what I'm buying into later this year...

Don't you need to shorten the steering shaft when using the Borgeson?

No, there's an adapter that allows you to keep your stock steering column and not have to irreversibly modify anything...

States right on their website steering shaft has to be shortened and you have to use their coupler.

http://bergmanautocraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=5-0010

"Bergman Auto Craft direct fit steering box coupler. This adapter eliminates the need for any steering column modification on A, B and E body vehicles when installing a Borgeson/Delphi power steering box. Comes with coupler rebuild kit and is finished in satin black powdercoat. Plunge style coupling replaces stock coupling on virtually every Mopar Includes coupler rebuild kit..."

 Shoot I was looking on Borgeson website, thanks myk and thank you Derwud.

[myk]

Aw damn it I should've mentioned I was looking at Bergmanautocraft.com.   sorry!

Looks a lot like a Jeep box?

That's exactly what it is...

[toocheaptosmoke]

Got a Lares box off rockauto for like 70 bucks w/o a core fee, been working fine for a couple years, no slop.  Shimmed the power steering pump regulator for less pressure and it works good.     Sold my old box at carlisle for $35. 

[ACUDANUT]

Got a Lares box off rockauto for like 70 bucks w/o a core fee, been working fine for a couple years, no slop.  Shimmed the power steering pump regulator for less pressure and it works good.     Sold my old box at carlisle for $35. 

Sounds good to me. 

[b5blue]

Aw damn it I should've mentioned I was looking at Bergmanautocraft.com.   sorry!

Looks a lot like a Jeep box?

That's exactly what it is...

So if a Jeep box we should figure out what one...Jeep is CHEAP!

[ACUDANUT]

Got a Lares box off rockauto for like 70 bucks w/o a core fee, been working fine for a couple years, no slop.  Shimmed the power steering pump regulator for less pressure and it works good.     Sold my old box at carlisle for $35. 

Sounds good to me. 

How do you shim a pump regulator ?

[toocheaptosmoke]

Got a Lares box off rockauto for like 70 bucks w/o a core fee, been working fine for a couple years, no slop.  Shimmed the power steering pump regulator for less pressure and it works good.     Sold my old box at carlisle for $35. 

Sounds good to me. 

How do you shim a pump regulator ?

Some info and a link in here, http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,117791.0.html

[ChargerST]

Aw damn it I should've mentioned I was looking at Bergmanautocraft.com.   sorry!

Looks a lot like a Jeep box?

That's exactly what it is...

So if a Jeep box we should figure out what one...Jeep is CHEAP!

My money is on the 99-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) steering boxes.. mounting ears would have to be removed and new ones added though.

[myk]

I'm pretty sure the Borgeson boxes are unmodified.  I'll ask Bergman for sure...

[Mopar Nut]

Borgeson confirmed their mopar boxes are new, not modified. 

[myk]

Thanks for the heads up...

[Calif240]

Love my firm feel...
Terry

[ACUDANUT]

 My Money is Rock auto or your local parts store. 100.00 with trade in is better than a leaking PS gear box.