New 69!

[miller time]

I've acquired another 69! (It is NOT an R\T, my understanding is someone put the badges on to be cool!)
Its a numbers matching plum crazy 69 charger 440 727 3.55 suregrip with AC, power steering, power brakes and factory disk brakes, bucket seats and center console shift. No wood grain, has shoulder seat belts (was that normal?) But yeah it runs and drives and is complete!
BUT the car is shot! It needs 90+% new metal, yes yes anything can be restored but its probably $40k to make the car rust free and right, so hush I covered that already, so now I'm at the corner of part it out and keep some stuff, sell it as mostly is (I'd keep a few parts odviously) or keep it and probably never restore it, it was savable 20 years ago, but then it sat under an oak tree for 20 years, which it actually still is sitting under an oak tree, damn oak trees
So what do y'all think? Id hate to break up a numbers matching car. But I bought it because it was a good deal $4,000 and it's very similar to my RT SE, and the grill and center console would almost pay me back alone.
So whats it worth as is? (Every panel has rot and the frame is SHOT!)
What would you do with it? (Don't say rent a warehouse and spend 2 years salary to restore it)
And it is getting rained in pretty much every day right now, also have a clean title for it!
Pictures will come, so calm down, and no I'm not exaggerating the rust, Im actually going to brace the frame with some bar stock to keep it from collapsing on its self

[myk]

Sounds to me like you want to part it out or sell it since it's so far gone, but feel guilty for doing so.  Just do whatever you want to.  I wouldn't drop $40K to resurrect a car either.  You could buy a solid driver for that type of money...

[miller time]

Sounds to me like you want to part it out or sell it since it's so far gone, but feel guilty for doing so.  Just do whatever you want to.  I wouldn't drop $40K to resurrect a car either.  You could buy a solid driver for that type of money...

I kind of want to stop the rust, make the frame solid aka make my own solid frame under it, use galvanized thin steel and rivets to patch the large holes and romp around town and drive in the rain and just not care! Dirt roads, puddles, walmart parking lots, car shows to make people mad, the things most all of us are scared to do but I cant afford insurance and already have a project or 3, what I want to do and what I can afford to do are in different continents, dang reality

[RallyeMike]

Sounds like a parts car, but I'll hold judgement until the pictures come across. At least it wasn't scrapped.

[ht4spd307]

flip it as is someone will give you 10k

[A383Wing]

Its a numbers matching plum crazy 69 charger

[polywideblock]

   plumcrazy was a 70 colour wasn't it 

[69rtse4spd]

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[Lennard]

  plumcrazy was a 70 colour wasn't it 

Yes, came out in 1970.

[VegasCharger]

Even w/o seeing pics the grille is worth $1200.00 unless it's restored and console maybe $850.00 if it's in nice condition. A far cry from almost 4k unless you mean $2000.00 is almost.

Remember Lennard, us trying to sell your 1969 grille at Spring Fling priced at $1000.00 and had tons of people stop and look but wanted nothing to do with the asking price? We had one offer for $500.00 

Has Classic Industries repop grilles driven down the price of used one? Seems so? But I was surprised that a lot of folks at SF didn't know about CI grilles. And it still couldn't sell 

None-the-less I'm looking forward to seeing pics of this Charger. 

[Lennard]

  I took it back home and Chris wanted it so I traded it for labor.

[VegasCharger]

I took it back home and Chris wanted it so I traded it for labor.

Yes I know this 

[Homerr]

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Some of us are on a low-budget/long-timeline schedule and these cars are potentially a good solution.

[cbrestorations]

I like rusty junk...I may want the car, send pics lol

[Troy]

I like to save stuff but if it's really that bad there's no way I'd touch it (mainly because I have to pay someone to fix most of that stuff). It's an R/T but it's an auto so that hurts the total (finished) value. The disc brakes are probably worth a decent amount.

Yes, shoulder belts were mandatory by that time. Plum Crazy hadn't been released yet though.

Troy

[miller time]

I can't post pictures because my tablet and the site don't agree so of someone PM's me an email I will send the pics to be posted, and I have some now and can take more later, the car is not an RT its base, wether the color is factory or not doesn't bother me, I don't like purple but 69s actually look good enough to pull it off, and exact $s aren't concerning now as I know 99.9% will pay X and the rest will pay X to the power of 10 but I'm not selling anything right now, also the grill is not black on the sides its grey, I don't know if that factory but I think its kind of sexy looking!
And Im not looking to do anything with it right now, I'm just looking for ideas and what happens to it happens, even if it ends up being spares for my RT SE I'm ok with that 

[maxwellwedge]

You said it's not an R/T but it has a numbers matching 440.....

[myk]

You can send the pics to me: mykranili@aol.com

Have you tried using photobucket.com?  It's free and easy to use for posting...

[moparfan53]

I've acquired another 69! (It is NOT an R\T, my understanding is someone put the badges on to be cool!)
Its a numbers matching plum crazy 69 charger 440 727 3.55 suregrip with AC, power steering, power brakes and factory disk brakes, bucket seats and center console shift. No wood grain, has shoulder seat belts (was that normal?) But yeah it runs and drives and is complete!

Sounds like quite a find. but...

The '69 Charger R/T had the 440 as standard equipment. The 440 was not available in a non-R/T. So if it is "numbers matching", it is an R/T. If it is not an R/T, then it is not numbers matching. This is what maxwellwedge was referring to above.

The first 2 letters of the vin tell it all, XP = non-R/T, XS = R/T. The 5th digit is the engine code.

Front shoulder belts were standard equipment in '69 models. Rear shoulder belts were an option.

When you say "no woodgrain", do you mean on dash or on console?

Surprising at the cars that are still around, unfound.

 

[polywideblock]

could it be a 383 and there is just some confusion,  they do  look similar to a non mopar car guy 

[hemi68charger]

You said it's not an R/T but it has a numbers matching 440.....

  That's what I was thinking unless it is just a reference of the body stampings with the VIN/Tag..

[F8-4life]

Sounds to me like you want to part it out or sell it since it's so far gone, but feel guilty for doing so.  Just do whatever you want to.  I wouldn't drop $40K to resurrect a car either.  You could buy a solid driver for that type of money...

I kind of want to stop the rust, make the frame solid aka make my own solid frame under it, use galvanized thin steel and rivets to patch the large holes and romp around town and drive in the rain and just not care! Dirt roads, puddles, walmart parking lots, car shows to make people mad, the things most all of us are scared to do but I cant afford insurance and already have a project or 3, what I want to do and what I can afford to do are in different continents, dang reality

This is a great plan.

[69bronzeT5]

Sounds to me like you want to part it out or sell it since it's so far gone, but feel guilty for doing so.  Just do whatever you want to.  I wouldn't drop $40K to resurrect a car either.  You could buy a solid driver for that type of money...

I kind of want to stop the rust, make the frame solid aka make my own solid frame under it, use galvanized thin steel and rivets to patch the large holes and romp around town and drive in the rain and just not care! Dirt roads, puddles, walmart parking lots, car shows to make people mad, the things most all of us are scared to do but I cant afford insurance and already have a project or 3, what I want to do and what I can afford to do are in different continents, dang reality

This is a great plan.

This thread makes my head hurt.

[miller time]

Sorry I guys I went to the other coast and have been busy as heck, when it rains it pours! First Vin letters are xp, you're telling me that a non RT car could not be ordered?
If it's a 383 I'm going to kick my buddies butt, and he'll hang his head since he is a serious Mopar guy, so now I'm lost and need to talk to him tomorrow, either way I'm still in the black but I'll be seriously disappointed if I as mislead (no lectures needed)
If its not numbers matching I wouldn't care if I parted it out nearly as much, it is weird though it's an xp but has rt badges and a 440 unless someone was smart enough to try to be slick, sorry guys my mind's in another place right know, so as always thanks for the information, that wasn't what I wanted to hear but hey that's life haha, I'll be back sooner or later with more info and maybe some parts or a car for sale, only time will tell

[69bronzeT5]

First Vin letters are xp, you're telling me that a non RT car could not be ordered?

That's exactly what we are telling you. XP cars did not get a 440. You could not get a 440 in a non XS R/T car. To get a 440, you had to get a R/T. Your vin will say XP29*9......what's the 5th digit?

[tan top]

I can't post pictures because my tablet and the site don't agree so of someone PM's me an email I will send the pics to be posted, and I have some now and can take more later, the car is not an RT its base, wether the color is factory or not doesn't bother me, I don't like purple but 69s actually look good enough to pull it off, and exact $s aren't concerning now as I know 99.9% will pay X and the rest will pay X to the power of 10 but I'm not selling anything right now, also the grill is not black on the sides its grey, I don't know if that factory but I think its kind of sexy looking!
And Im not looking to do anything with it right now, I'm just looking for ideas and what happens to it happens, even if it ends up being spares for my RT SE I'm ok with that  

MT  , emailed me a few pictures of said charger  , to post here

[tan top]

 

[miller time]

Yes there is egg on my face Vin says it's a 383 car  so much for numbers matching but anyways it's still mine and i like the crusty old girl
Thanks TT

[Dreamcar]

Nice! Mine was worse but I'm enjoying the process of bringing it back from the dead. Good luck!!

[JB400]

Looks like the termites have been busy.  Good luck