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Questions about superbird window sticker

Started by chaaargerb, May 09, 2016, 06:29:17 PM

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chaaargerb

Hello I was going over the window sticker for my bird and it turns out to be a company car.
The codes I am interested in are
Y21 Special Headers & tag instructions
Y28 Company car
y39 Special Order

Ship to is cartaret marshalling center
1000 blair road
cartaret NJ.

the vin is RM23UOA178644
the car was later sold at
smithtown chrysler plymouth
463 E Jericho turnpike
smithtown ny 11787

The car is an EK2 440 4barrel 4 speed.

Anyone out there able to make heads to tails about this car.
or what interest chrysler had with cartaret marshalling center


Any help or info would be great Thanks

Alaskan_TA

Is there a persons name & another VIN printed near the bottom?

Arnie Cunningham

There was another thread that talked about the Special Headers reference.  I think it has to do with paperwork and not the exhaust system as a motorhead would conclude.
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

chaaargerb

Nothing at the bottom.
It does have a 265 code destination charge
2700 2732 ce41lof148296
t r nicoletti qe753377
field 026001

nascarxx29

There was a special header reference with a daytona that was used for a performance show or displayed somehow
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

I Do show older club record owner byran jabloner under that vin 440 4 speed Vitamin C
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Alaskan_TA

Quote from: chaaargerb on May 09, 2016, 07:08:29 PM
ce41lof148296
t r nicoletti

VIN & name.

The VIN is from the car that company employee T. R. Nicoletti was to turn in when he picked up the Superbird.

The 'Special headers & Tag instructions' meant the headers at the top of the window sticker ( ship to & sold to addresses different) & that note with the name & the VIN for 'instructions'.

It would be cool to see a scan of it.

nascarxx29

Maybe try searching that Italian last name Nicoletti in nj or ny maybe find a family member
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

chaaargerb

 (I Do show older club record owner byran jabloner under that vin 440 4 speed Vitamin C)
He had the car from around 76 to 79

chaaargerb

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on May 09, 2016, 07:37:04 PM
Quote from: chaaargerb on May 09, 2016, 07:08:29 PM
ce41lof148296
t r nicoletti

VIN & name.

The VIN is from the car that company employee T. R. Nicoletti was to turn in when he picked up the Superbird.

The 'Special headers & Tag instructions' meant the headers at the top of the window sticker ( ship to & sold to addresses different) & that note with the name & the VIN for 'instructions'.

It would be cool to see a scan of it.
I need to get the paperwork copied so I can review it more. I hate handling the original paperwork. When I get some time I'll make some copies and figure out how to post it.

6bblgt

can you share the date & route (shipping) #s on the bottom before the final price

curious to see how old the Superbird was when it became a company car, it appears T.R.Nicoletti already had a 4-dr for the winter months  :shruggy:

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

chaaargerb

here are some pics

chaaargerb

more pics

chaaargerb

the car was later sold at
smithtown chrysler plymouth
463 E Jericho turnpike
smithtown ny 11787

sold as used on 6/23/70 for around $4100.00

6bblgt

Is Brennan's site down?  I went to look when this car was at Clairpointe, and couldn't find it?

It should've been completed during the first ~10 days of December 1969,
then sat around a holding lot (3+ months) until T.R.Nicoletti had need of a new "company car" being shipped to a "marshalling" yard in NJ late March/early-April 1970,
then the Superbird was sold as a used car less than 3 months later in June of '70 .....

wonder how long it sat as an available "USED CAR"?
any motor-sports/car show type events going on near Cartaret, NJ/Smithtown, NY April-May 1970?

When was the 1970 New York Auto Show??  Wasn't there an orange Superbird there?

6bblgt

 :scratchchin: CONGRATULATIONS!!   :shruggy:

New York Auto Show - first week of April 1970

aren't there color pics of this car?

6bblgt

dealer number 92732
=
Chrysler Regional Office
White Plains, New York

66FBCharger

In looking at the window sticker, I thought it was funny that at the end of the line that says 440 4 bbl. it has TNT. Wasn't that a Chrysler name for their 440 4 bbl. 375 HP?
'69 Charger R/T 440 4 speed T5, '70 Road Runner 440+6 4 speed, '73 'Cuda 340 4 speed, '66 Charger 383 Auto
SOLD!:'69 Charger R/T S.E. 440 4 speed 3.54 Dana rolling body

chaaargerb

I don't know if the car in the auto show picture is it. I have some pics of it in 75 with white Plymouth decals on the rear.

chaaargerb

The car did have the left rear quarter replaced by the dealer in 74 before that picture was taken. Maybe they didn't have black decals or ordered white by mistake

Alaskan_TA

Highly doubtful that a car assigned to a regional sales manager as a 'driver' would be used as a show car anyway.

Aero426

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on May 11, 2016, 05:19:56 PM
Highly doubtful that a car assigned to a regional sales manager as a 'driver' would be used as a show car anyway.

Absolutely correct.   Like the #6 Baker show car Daytona, the Vitamin C Superbird that was on tour would have traveled and been stored with all the other exhibits when not on display. 

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redbird

Walter Miller Auto Literature, a seller on e-bay, sells a color picture of the Vit-C Superbird in a more head on view at the 1970 NY Auto Show. I believe the B&W picture of the car shown in a post earlier in this thread is from the REV web site. I believe the REV site also has several other pictures of the 1970 C/P display at the 1970 NY Auto Show.

I have seen a number of pictures of the Vit-C Superbird at the 1970 Detroit, Chicago, and NY Auto Shows. I believe the same car was used for these 3 shows. Several years ago someone asserted on this site or Moparts that a friend of theirs owned the real car used in the 3 shows and that the car used in the 3 shows was sold after the NY show in the NY area. At the time, a couple of years ago, one of the attachments to that thread were 2 pictures of a Vit-C car in a warehouse type building supposedly in the NY area.

Several years ago there were (2) 8x10 pictures for sale on e-bay of the Vit-C car on display at the 1970 Detroit auto show (which took place in November of 1969). These 2 pictures show details of the car there. I was lucky enough to buy one of them, the picture that was cropped and I believe was used in the November 25th 1969 issue of the Detroit News. It is one of those pictures sold by one of the services disposing of old newspaper photographs stating that it was sold for personal use only and transferred no rights to publish it, so please don't ask me to post it here. On the back is a copy of the article it was attached to, talking about Lucius Slade, the 25 year old winner of a Superbird-just like this one, being given the keys, and his girlfriend of 3 months, the 22 year old Linda Watkins a directory assistance operator at Michigan Bell sitting in the car. My picture shows the passenger side including all the pass. side rear wheelwell details. The other picture, that I did not get, shows the driver side including the door sticker placement.

The base that the Superbird was on for the (3) 1970 shows was the same one used for the Sox & Martin car at the 1969 Detroit Auto show (Nov 1968), and the Duster 1 (Beep Beep X-1(I'm drawing a blank on the exact second name for the Duster 1, I don't know where I have the pictures of it in 1970)) at the 1969 Chicago and 1969 NY auto shows. The base was used at other shows up until at least the 1972 Chicago Auto Show for displaying other cars.

I have got to believe that the Vit-C Superbird used at the 1970 shows was a specially prepped car.

Another special Vit-C car was the car used on the cover of Stock Car Racing Magazine in 1970. That car seems to be photographed at the same time frame the White car used in the promo photos was also photographed at. I would wager a guess that the Vit-C car on the cover of Stock Car Racing Magazine and the White car in the promo pictures were 2 of the 5 pilot Superbirds built before the production run cars started.

nascarxx29

Rev library great site for archive.  Pics.            https://revslib.stanford.edu
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redbird

Here are 2 pictures posted on line where someone previously has asserted that this is the car used in the auto shows. If this is or is not the auto show car I have no idea.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

6bblgt

Here's another Google image of the New York Auto Show Superbird; yes the above black & white pic is from the Revs Institute collection and shows a 4/5/70 date & appears to have been taken during set-up for the show (tape on carpet for placement of the AAR)?  It shows it on the raised-lit platform that would be part of the travelling show.

Is there something about the window sticker that shows T.R.Nicoletti was  a  "regional sales manager" or was that a guess?

I figured the timing and apparent short term usage (less than 3 months) of the car by T.R.Nicoletti during the time of the NY show - showed some intent for the car other than a simple "driver".  :shruggy:

Redbird

Not relievement to discussion of the Superbird, but having to do with discussion of the 1970 NY auto show; the yellow background with the explosion graphic behind the Superbird that was used in 1970 in NY was not the same graphic used in Detroit and Chicago. The floor to floor height of the NY Coliseum was much less than the Detroit and Chicago venues, so a more compact background had to be made for NY. One can see it in the Walter Miller photo.

I do believe the Superbird used in Detroit, Chicago, and NY was one singular car.

Redbird

Something else about the platform/base that I have wondered about. When it was used for the Superbird and Sox & Martin car, the cups holding the wheels would have been the same wheelbase. However when the Duster 1 and 1972 Sox & Martin car were on the platform/base wheelbases were different, so there must have been some rebuilding or modifying of it between shows.

I believe the platform/base was also modified between the 1969 Chicago and 1969 NY shows when the Duster 1 was on it. I have some pictures and written descriptions from Ford about the Plymouth display saying this.

A further note on the platform/base. In the time period of the muscle car era, car manufacturers would build scale dioramas of their proposed display for specific shows using plastic promo models. These dioramas were huge. The 1969 diorama for the 1969 Chicago Auto Show had a model of the proposed platform/base, including the proposed background piece that Steven Juliano currently has 1/2 of the real one in his collection.

The 1969 Chicago diorama was actually motorized, so promo car models on the diorama would rotate just like the actual display. It was very cool.

Redbird

Here is a picture of the March 1970 issue of Stock Car Racing Magazine currently listed on e-bay if someone is interested in buying it, not my listing. I believe inside the issue it says where the picture was taken. I would think the picture was talen well in advance of the March 1970 cover date,

chaaargerb

Quote from: 6bblgt on May 12, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
was there something about the window sticker that shows T.R.Nicoletti was  a  "regional sales manager" or was that a guess?

I figured the timing and apparent short term usage (less than 3 months) of the car by T.R.Nicoletti during the time of the NY show - showed some intent for the car other than a simple "driver".  :shruggy:

I believe that was a theory. I don't know if they used it for some other promotional things or the guy maybe wanted to make sure they had one to show during the auto show. Did they have any NASCAR races in New York around that time frame? I know I've been to different sports events and the car dealers would set up a display by the entrance.

thehemikid

Quote from: Redbird on May 12, 2016, 01:10:59 PM
Here is a picture of the March 1970 issue of Stock Car Racing Magazine currently listed on e-bay if someone is interested in buying it, not my listing. I believe inside the issue it says where the picture was taken. I would think the picture was talen well in advance of the March 1970 cover date,


I have one in better condition, will look and see.

Edit: Sorry my hand moved a little.


Arnie Cunningham

Hey All,
My site should be back up.  The credit cards I had on file for auto renewal had expired.  Glad I read this post.  The email got lost in my in box with all the junk lol.
Brennan
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

Aero426

Photo of the car being discussed when it was owned by Ray Bussi, Flushing NY, mid 1980's.