Forged or Cast Crank?

[HPT BANDIT]

1st gear went out on my transmission so I pulled it to get it rebuilt. I don't know much about the history of the this engine and transmission. I can't find out anything from the previous owner even thought he put it together  I was told its a forged crank 440. It's not the original motor. The balancer makes me think it's a forged crank (according to 440source) but the weights on the torque converter makes me thing cast. Can anyone help me out?

[BLK 68 R/T]

Only way to know for sure is to pull the oil pan and take a look at the crank itself. IIRC a forged crank will look just like that, a forging. While a cast crank will have a clean appearance with not a lot of roughness.

Edit: the balancer is for a forged crank.

[cdr]

the weights on the converter look like to balance the converter, not the engine. my internal balance converter has one weight on it.

[RECHRGD]

the weights on the converter look like to balance the converter, not the engine. my internal balance converter has one weight on it.

X2.   

[HPT BANDIT]

the weights on the converter look like to balance the converter, not the engine. my internal balance converter has one weight on it.

I considered that, but I think the other weight might have come off recently.

[cdr]

the harmonic balancer is for an internal balance from what i can see, when you get the trans rebuilt you will need to get your converter rebuilt or get a new one.  

[John_Kunkel]

The first pic is deceptive, you need to turn the crank 180° and see what the other side looks like. The external weight offset might be out of view. Some forged cranks need external balancing.

[BSB67]

The first pic is deceptive, you need to turn the crank 180° and see what the other side looks like. The external weight offset might be out of view. Some forged cranks need external balancing.

The front face is under cut, so I don't think that it is weighted.  I think only the flush face, like in your pic is weighted for external balance.

[HPT BANDIT]

The motor isn't original but my gut tells me it's a forged crank and the converter was the wrong one.

[HPT BANDIT]

Another thought on the converter... I talked to the transmission builder and told him my concern with the converter. He likes to see the old converter so he knows what kind to get. I told him I don't believe its the right one for it. He asked if it vibrated bad and I said no, but I have less than 50 miles on it and I never got a chance to really get on it. I think if it had both weights on it, I would have noticed it right away. A single weight might have moved the vibration higher up in the RPMs. That is my theory.

[mopar0166]

forged internally balanced

[HPT BANDIT]

You would think it would be a easy to find a transmission guy to rebuild my Torqueflite. I called a couple placed but they gave the run around. They couldn't answer simple questions like what they include in their rebuilds? Do you offer performance upgrades? I finally went with a guy a local jeep buddy highly recommended but I'm still weary. If it wasn't for his recommendation and the badass tranny they built for him, I would have walked out. Customer service is a lost art.

[az69b5charger]

If you lived near Phx, I'd build it for you. I can do them in my sleep. Did my first one successfully when I was 14