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426 Hemi motor

Started by 69rtse4spd, April 22, 2016, 08:04:32 PM

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69rtse4spd

Guy here in my home town just sold a 70 426 Hemi motor for 30,000. Anybody know of anyone who just bought a motor in Northern Ind. Didn't get to ask if it was used or a creat motor, or the vin, just letting everyone know.      

myk

Amazing what they sell for...

Mike DC

 
A 1970 motor, for $30,000? 

Somebody was buying the numbers on it. 


Mytur Binsdirti

For that kind of scratch, I hope that it was completely rebuilt and the purchaser saw it on the dyno & looking like it came off the assembly line, carbs to pan, complete with matching numbers for the vehicle it's going into.   

1974dodgecharger

someone got ripped, lol.....

Drache

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 23, 2016, 08:59:03 PM
someone got ripped, lol.....

Not if it's the numbers matching motor to a very rare car and already have the matching transmission :D
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1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Drache on April 24, 2016, 04:15:00 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 23, 2016, 08:59:03 PM
someone got ripped, lol.....

Not if it's the numbers matching motor to a very rare car and already have the matching transmission :D

still got jipped because the seller knew the buyer needed, lol....buyer should of kept his mouth shut. :icon_smile_big:

ACUDANUT

30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

odcics2

In, 2009, I paid $6,500. for a  Nascar spec, fully documented, short block assy that was built in the Highland Park engineering "Motor Room". The numbers on the pad indicate it was used in my car for the Daytona 125 mile qualifying race in Feb. 1969. (was numbered "99", entered as a "Nichels Engineering" entry and had Paul Goldsmith driving - it was a Charger 500 at that time)  Date stampings on the crank indicate it was 'freshened up' in January 1970 and never run since.
I consider myself extremely lucky to find it...   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Aero426

Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 24, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

It is not just the price of a Hemi engine you have to consider.   Any ass hat can get a Hemi engine built that has eight spark plugs in the valve covers.   It's the carbs, the exhaust manifolds, the valve covers, all the little parts that get expensive if you have to have "the right engine" for a particular application.    I am not suggesting 30k is at all a good deal.   Considering there is almost zero factual information given in the original post other than someone sold an engine, it's hard to make a comment other than, "it's a lot of money".  

Aero426

Quote from: odcics2 on April 24, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
In, 2009, I paid $6,500. for a  Nascar spec, fully documented, short block assy that was built in the Highland Park engineering "Motor Room". The numbers on the pad indicate it was used in my car for the Daytona 125 mile qualifying race in Feb. 1969. (was numbered "99", entered as a "Nichels Engineering" entry and had Paul Goldsmith driving - it was a Charger 500 at that time)  Date stampings on the crank indicate it was 'freshened up' in January 1970 and never run since.
I consider myself extremely lucky to find it...   

I would call that a "score".  Not just a little score.  A really big score.     I would gladly pay that for a complete short block that I could prove actually raced in my car.    :cheers:

ws23rt

I would say congratulations to the seller.  It's hard to imagine they took a loss at that price. :o

As for the buyer? :scratchchin:  They made the decision to close the deal.  I would guess they are not a flipper. :lol:


69rtse4spd

No, the seller lives South of Ft. Wayne, Ind. Get time this week, will talk to the some of the guys at the Dodge dealer that know seller, & see what other info I can get.

hemi68charger

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on April 23, 2016, 05:20:20 AM
 
A 1970 motor, for $30,000? 

Somebody was buying the numbers on it. 



Especially if it started out with XX29J9******* and not to be that of a C500 ( that in its own right is pretty darn rare, more rare than a Daytona )..
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'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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tan top

Quote from: FY1 Charger on April 24, 2016, 08:19:38 PM
Is this the one?
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/5549916933.html


:o :drool5:
pictures for future reference  :yesnod:  :2thumbs:



Quote from: 69rtse4spd on April 24, 2016, 09:20:37 PM
No, the seller lives South of Ft. Wayne, Ind. Get time this week, will talk to the some of the guys at the Dodge dealer that know seller, & see what other info I can get.
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

1974dodgecharger


ws23rt

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 26, 2016, 03:22:08 AM
thx tan top!!!




Me to tan top  :2thumbs:

That engine sure looks solid, complete, and well presented.---But the price?
I guess it's just another example of a reality check on how much money is worth these days. :slap:
Also I'm sure the seller is celebrating  4/26  and maybe even the buyer? :shruggy:

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Aero426 on April 24, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 24, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

It is not just the price of a Hemi engine you have to consider.   Any ass hat can get a Hemi engine built that has eight spark plugs in the valve covers.   It's the carbs, the exhaust manifolds, the valve covers, all the little parts that get expensive if you have to have "the right engine" for a particular application.    I am not suggesting 30k is at all a good deal.   Considering there is almost zero factual information given in the original post other than someone sold an engine, it's hard to make a comment other than, "it's a lot of money".  

I guess I am a ass hat, but still can't afford a 426 Hemi.

birdsandbees

Not up on 426 stampings, but anyone else see something amiss in those last 3 digits?
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Aero426

Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 26, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 24, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 24, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

It is not just the price of a Hemi engine you have to consider.   Any ass hat can get a Hemi engine built that has eight spark plugs in the valve covers.   It's the carbs, the exhaust manifolds, the valve covers, all the little parts that get expensive if you have to have "the right engine" for a particular application.    I am not suggesting 30k is at all a good deal.   Considering there is almost zero factual information given in the original post other than someone sold an engine, it's hard to make a comment other than, "it's a lot of money".  

I guess I am a ass hat, but still can't afford a 426 Hemi.

Neither can I.   But without knowing the particulars of the engine (supposedly) sold, it's pointless to say it's a good or bad deal, other than, yeah, a lot of money.

69rtse4spd

Well the only other info I got on the Hemi was, the seller pulled it out of a 70 Newport someone dropped it in. He does have a 440 six-pack motor & 4-spd he is keeping.

ws23rt

Quote from: 69rtse4spd on April 30, 2016, 05:53:45 PM
Well the only other info I got on the Hemi was, the seller pulled it out of a 70 Newport someone dropped it in. He does have a 440 six-pack motor & 4-spd he is keeping.


Now that is interesting.  Many hemi's were pulled from young cars back then --but to put one in a 70 Newport is different. :lol:

I have one of the many complete cars that were tossed at the time for the engine. (69 coronet hemi rt).  The impulse for the hemi at that time must have been stronger then I remember. :o

odcics2

Quote from: Aero426 on April 26, 2016, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 26, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 24, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 24, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

It is not just the price of a Hemi engine you have to consider.   Any ass hat can get a Hemi engine built that has eight spark plugs in the valve covers.   It's the carbs, the exhaust manifolds, the valve covers, all the little parts that get expensive if you have to have "the right engine" for a particular application.    I am not suggesting 30k is at all a good deal.   Considering there is almost zero factual information given in the original post other than someone sold an engine, it's hard to make a comment other than, "it's a lot of money".  

I guess I am a ass hat, but still can't afford a 426 Hemi.

Neither can I.   But without knowing the particulars of the engine (supposedly) sold, it's pointless to say it's a good or bad deal, other than, yeah, a lot of money.

You already have one! :2thumbs:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

6spd68

Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."

ws23rt

Quote from: 6spd68 on May 19, 2016, 11:17:28 AM
Rusty Hemi for 200$ (I know it's not a 426, but hey!) :cheers:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/barrie/1951-chysler-hemi-engine/1166543757?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true







That is kinda cool.  :2thumbs: Especially if it is a 1951 engine.  As I recall (and please do correct me as needed) that is the first year for the chrysler hemi ?

A note for the chevy hot rodders ----It might be tough to make this look like a small block chev. engine. :shruggy:

ACUDANUT

Quote from: odcics2 on May 05, 2016, 06:07:56 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 26, 2016, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 26, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 24, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 24, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
30K for a 426 ?.  Not here.

It is not just the price of a Hemi engine you have to consider.   Any ass hat can get a Hemi engine built that has eight spark plugs in the valve covers.   It's the carbs, the exhaust manifolds, the valve covers, all the little parts that get expensive if you have to have "the right engine" for a particular application.    I am not suggesting 30k is at all a good deal.   Considering there is almost zero factual information given in the original post other than someone sold an engine, it's hard to make a comment other than, "it's a lot of money".  

Not me.

I guess I am a ass hat, but still can't afford a 426 Hemi.

Neither can I.   But without knowing the particulars of the engine (supposedly) sold, it's pointless to say it's a good or bad deal, other than, yeah, a lot of money.

You already have one! :2thumbs:


Charger_Fan

Quote from: birdsandbees on April 26, 2016, 08:16:49 PM
Not up on 426 stampings, but anyone else see something amiss in those last 3 digits?
Same here...the stamping on that pad is/are a mess!


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ws23rt

Quote from: Charger_Fan on May 23, 2016, 12:11:56 AM
Quote from: birdsandbees on April 26, 2016, 08:16:49 PM
Not up on 426 stampings, but anyone else see something amiss in those last 3 digits?
Same here...the stamping on that pad is/are a mess!





That is kind of messy.  I have a hemi block that is stamped  1-6-70 but no other lettering. :shruggy:
I guess mine is a service block?


ws23rt

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 23, 2016, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: 6spd68 on May 19, 2016, 11:17:28 AM
Rusty Hemi for 200$ (I know it's not a 426, but hey!) :cheers:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/barrie/1951-chysler-hemi-engine/1166543757?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true





Way off course of a 426.  :Twocents:



This may be off course of a "426 hemi" but everything has a beginning.

The combustion chamber shape that describes  hemi goes back much further in history.

The 51 hemi is the first v8 of that (hemi) design that (I am aware) was made for use in cars.

For me the REAL hemi was the 392.  --Only 2 years production and it made a statement that (IMO) led in a large part to the 426. (which BTW is not a true hemi (technically speeking)). --- We don't call the 426 a simi hemi  :lol:  (which would be more correct)

The word "hemi" these days has morphed  a long way over time.  :slap:

birdsandbees

I got one of dem...  had it since I was 17  :yesnod: Man that was a long 37 years ago..

1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Bobs69

Quote from: birdsandbees on April 26, 2016, 08:16:49 PM
Not up on 426 stampings, but anyone else see something amiss in those last 3 digits?

What?  Like someone missed with the stamp and tried punching it a second time?

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Bobs69 on May 24, 2016, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on April 26, 2016, 08:16:49 PM
Not up on 426 stampings, but anyone else see something amiss in those last 3 digits?

What?  Like someone missed with the stamp and tried punching it a second time?

Stolen engine?