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69 charger R/T SE A33 & AC ?? .... XS29L9G205906

Started by tan top, April 02, 2016, 01:51:16 AM

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polywideblock



  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

JesseJames78

A47... it's missing the Hood-mounted turn signals.

69CoronetRT

Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

tcs69rt

If one of you here buys it.....shit can that steering wheel!  :2thumbs:
"Life ain't easy when you rode the short bus."

bigdsul

At this point it's got to be going overseas with the amount of money bid on the car so far or shill bidding like crazy. Either way it will fetch an insane amount of money and the unfamiliar buyer will have a nice car.

I guess it really pays to do some research or at least pay someone else to research the car.

rick.d

I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

qwick68

Hopefully no one on here is buying this.....good to have this site and the knowledge of its members..... :cheers:
68 Charger LL-1 Turquoise

alfaitalia

Quote from: rick.d on April 09, 2016, 04:48:31 PM
I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

More US phrases I'm not sure about!!! :shruggy:.....What is a "clip car"?
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

tan top

Quote from: rick.d on April 09, 2016, 04:48:31 PM
I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! , amongst other things .  imo   :Twocents:
be interesting to   chemically strip / soda blast , the body shell  & inspect  its  stamped vin #s & various other things to see whats going on  :scratchchin: 
 



Quote from: alfaitalia on April 11, 2016, 07:19:27 AM
Quote from: rick.d on April 09, 2016, 04:48:31 PM
I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

More US phrases I'm not sure about!!! :shruggy:.....What is a "clip car"?

two cars  ,   welded together ,    well two halfs  :yesnod:


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cbrestorations

Where's kerndog wanting to either sh** in his showroom or kick him in the nuts for a re-body lol

bigdsul

64 thousand dollars! Yikes!

Hopefully the owner won't be going to the Internet to brag about the car. Especially here or a few other MOPAR websites as no doubt that the owner will be brought up to speed on what that car really is.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: tan top on April 11, 2016, 06:06:43 PM

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! ,


the fender tag is fake so you can't go by that.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

alfaitalia

Thanks tan top.....that's what we would call a "cut n shut" or a "ringer"! Ringer is more often applied if one or both of the halves has been sourced from a stolen or written off car...
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

tan top

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on April 12, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
Quote from: tan top on April 11, 2016, 06:06:43 PM

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! ,


the fender tag is fake so you can't go by that.

:yesnod: :2thumbs:
Yes  , true !! that  has a number of mistakes .
apart from the AC firewall !  that should not be on that car according to the fender tag , the body !  on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin stamped on the motor is prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars . not sure when the change of floor pan stamping occurred ,   maybe !   St Louis had  more of a stock pile of the older floor sections  , than Hamtramck built cars  , or  unless , this car has  had lots of stuff replaced.  i'm far from a expert  , just whats running through my mind  ,  maybe  its something as simple as, the car once was a auto &  who ever decided to make it a four speed A33 , & make up their own fender tag  & re stamped  some numbers  :shruggy: .  either way lots of iffy stuff  imo ,  looks like someone ground off part of the casting number on the trans case ,  :P  prolly caught it with the grinder , trying to remove the original vin on the trans  :shruggy:


side note
picture of the  dash vin tag below  , I had saved some years before  , :scratchchin:
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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alfaitalia

The lower right corner of the stamped area also drops away a bit.....again probably the result of grinder misuse!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

birdsandbees

As I said earlier, the trans stamp pad is missing a lot more than correctness on an 833.

A shame for them to tarnish what otherwise seems to be a fairly good used car seller.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: tan top on April 12, 2016, 08:17:22 AM
  on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin on the motor it prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars .


I'm more of a 68 person, but can you please elaborate on the floor pan & body pan & extra body plugs? Curious minds must know.

tan top

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 12, 2016, 12:48:43 PM
Quote from: tan top on April 12, 2016, 08:17:22 AM
 on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin on the motor it prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars .


I'm more of a 68 person, but can you please elaborate on the floor pan & body pan & extra body plugs? Curious minds must know.


 as mentioned above ,  these plugs were added sometime , during the E series 69 model run , cars with a  SPD of 69 , not E68 ,  ,all 69 daytonas had/ have them, as do all F series 70 . I did have a lot of pictures & close SPDs saved , of  69 E series chargers ,  with & with out  these extra plugs , from both B & G  assembly plants , trying to work out at what SPD , they first started appearing , sadly I lost all that info along with a lot of other charger stuff , when my computer blew up a few years back  :icon_smile_blackeye: . also  cant remember if they coinside with the switch from two battery cooling holes in the core support to just one hole &  or tall bumper guards .....   , like I mentioned , i'm no expert on any of this  , its just pictures & SPDs  & original cars ive looked at studied over the years & stuff I've  learnt from clever members on this awesome site  :bow: , that know more about these cars , than I ever will.  :cheers:

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Mytur Binsdirti


fy469rtse

A few of you almost said it,
Myturbinsdirty was on the right track,  yes car was a 70 ! Shocked go back through al the images and you will see the little details to a 70 production ,
Yes a 70 body
Lets see who can list the little details , come lets see how many you can see once you know it's a 70 shell, several have been mentioned already  :shruggy:

Homerr

Quote from: fy469rtse on April 13, 2016, 07:27:46 AM
A few of you almost said it,
Myturbinsdirty was on the right track,  yes car was a 70 ! Shocked go back through al the images and you will see the little details to a 70 production ,
Yes a 70 body
Lets see who can list the little details , come lets see how many you can see once you know it's a 70 shell, several have been mentioned already  :shruggy:

Obviously the pistol grip proves that it's a '70.   :icon_smile_big: