69 charger R/T SE A33 & AC ?? .... XS29L9G205906

[tan top]

        this looks like the one Hlpeg  worked their magic on  some years back    unless i'm mistaken  ,

XS29L9G205906

lots of iffy stuff going on with this one , that's  forsure  






http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-RT-/131768980339

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[69 OUR/TEA]

Oh yeah a lot going on there !!!!!

No H51 on fender tag ,( NTM 4spd and A/C is not available ) , pretty sure that you could NOT get a black stripe on a black car in 69 , also missing the WW moldings .Vin  stampings look great to !!!!!
Where's the woodgrain dash , and the sail panel SE emblems ?
They went as far as to paint the fender tag screw on the left and the right one unpainted ,....... where is the " bend " in the tag ? LOL .
End result , if you're going to " re-body " , or " make " a car , at least know exactly how they should have / could have been . They might have got away with it if they re-bodied it into a non A/C car , and didn't try making it an SE , and made it a V88 , or white/red stripe .

[Homerr]

LOL

...G33 N85 M21...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

LOL

...G33 N85 M21...

Nailed it!  Also no inspection stamps in the tag on this supposed St. Louis built car....  

Car has been making the rounds since 2006!

[cbrestorations]

excuse my ignorance of fender tag expertise, but i do see a tac in the car and N85 on the fender tag, is it the location of the option on the tag that is the issue?

[BLK 68 R/T]

No front sway bar or reverse light on the dash either.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

excuse my ignorance of fender tag expertise, but i do see a tac in the car and N85 on the fender tag, is it the location of the option on the tag that is the issue?

Yes...should be in alphabetical order

[cavemanno1]

They went as far as to paint the fender tag screw on the left and the right one unpainted ,....... where is the " bend " in the tag ? LOL .
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Can you guys tell me why you don't have to paint the right hand side screw on the fender tag and what "bend" you refereing to?

Thanks,

Peter

[birdsandbees]

St Louis bent the tag up so when they painted the car it sprayed under and over and then screwed down the open side. FWIW Lynch Rd didnt' do this, they hung them on a wire from a sunvisor hole.

[bigdsul]

It's up to 45 thousand and the reserve hasn't been met! Am I the only one that has a problem with this

In the end it always pays to do a good amount of research prior to making a big purchase such as this.

But I guess this just reinforces the old saying of a fool and his money.......

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[Mytur Binsdirti]

No front sway bar  

I don't see the holes in the 68-69 location, but the holes are are there for the 70 sway bar brackets.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Man is this car easy to pick apart !!!!!! Love where they put the jack !!!! Nice door panels !!!!! Rattle can black spray fest !!!!! Someone can't be bidding on this , gotta be shill bids happening trying to get action up there .

[birdsandbees]

Hey Dirty was the guy that said Smokey knew how to sell cars... stop looking at the girl wrapped in the tight dress!

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Hey Dirty was the guy that said Smokey knew how to sell cars... stop looking at the girl wrapped in the tight dress!

In this case, the distraction helps greatly.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Love the "H" pipe in the exhaust 

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Is the Mr. Norm's license plate frame supposed to lend credence to the car and its (alleged) provenance?   

[dual fours]

Love the "H" pipe in the exhaust 

Oh an "H" pipe, I thought that was suppose to be a drive shaft loop.

[birdsandbees]

Motorhome dual snorkel cleaner?!

[dual fours]

Fender tag shows Option A47, Special Edition Package. I see J41 Pedal Dress Up, no J64 Wood Grain Dash Panel, no SE Name Plate on sail panel.
EDIT: I see what I listed above had been mention earlier.
The Add list "5 Doors"? There off by one because I count 2 side, 2 head light, 1 glove box, 1 console.  
EDIT: Could be my old tired eyes, but looks like the right rear window is clear, seems not to match all the other seven windows with there tint.

[69CoronetRT]

No one has mentioned....

The lack of headrests. The SPD is bogus but the VIN indicates the car was built after 1/1/69.

[69CoronetRT]

excuse my ignorance of fender tag expertise, but i do see a tac in the car and N85 on the fender tag, is it the location of the option on the tag that is the issue?

Yes...should be in alphabetical order

Any other codes missing? 

If it codes A47 you should also see..........

[polywideblock]

 

[JesseJames78]

A47... it's missing the Hood-mounted turn signals.

[69CoronetRT]

A47... it's missing the Hood-mounted turn signals.

No L31 on the tag either.

[tcs69rt]

If one of you here buys it.....shit can that steering wheel! 

[bigdsul]

At this point it's got to be going overseas with the amount of money bid on the car so far or shill bidding like crazy. Either way it will fetch an insane amount of money and the unfamiliar buyer will have a nice car.

I guess it really pays to do some research or at least pay someone else to research the car.

[rick.d]

I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

[qwick68]

Hopefully no one on here is buying this.....good to have this site and the knowledge of its members.....

[alfaitalia]

I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

More US phrases I'm not sure about!!! .....What is a "clip car"?

[tan top]

I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! , amongst other things .  imo  
be interesting to   chemically strip / soda blast , the body shell  & inspect  its  stamped vin #s & various other things to see whats going on   
 

I noticed that on the tailpanel, there's no chrome trim around the area that should be blacked out in flat black, (but isn't). I wonder if this car is a clip?

More US phrases I'm not sure about!!! .....What is a "clip car"?

two cars  ,   welded together ,    well two halfs  

[cbrestorations]

Where's kerndog wanting to either sh** in his showroom or kick him in the nuts for a re-body lol

[bigdsul]

64 thousand dollars! Yikes!

Hopefully the owner won't be going to the Internet to brag about the car. Especially here or a few other MOPAR websites as no doubt that the owner will be brought up to speed on what that car really is.

[69CoronetRT]

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! ,

the fender tag is fake so you can't go by that.

[alfaitalia]

Thanks tan top.....that's what we would call a "cut n shut" or a "ringer"! Ringer is more often applied if one or both of the halves has been sourced from a stolen or written off car...

[tan top]

 looking like the body has been swapped ( re bodied ) going by the fender tag ! ,

the fender tag is fake so you can't go by that.

Yes  , true !! that  has a number of mistakes .
apart from the AC firewall !  that should not be on that car according to the fender tag , the body !  on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin stamped on the motor is prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars . not sure when the change of floor pan stamping occurred ,   maybe !   St Louis had  more of a stock pile of the older floor sections  , than Hamtramck built cars  , or  unless , this car has  had lots of stuff replaced.  i'm far from a expert  , just whats running through my mind  ,  maybe  its something as simple as, the car once was a auto &  who ever decided to make it a four speed A33 , & make up their own fender tag  & re stamped  some numbers   .  either way lots of iffy stuff  imo ,  looks like someone ground off part of the casting number on the trans case ,    prolly caught it with the grinder , trying to remove the original vin on the trans  


side note
picture of the  dash vin tag below  , I had saved some years before  ,

[alfaitalia]

The lower right corner of the stamped area also drops away a bit.....again probably the result of grinder misuse!

[birdsandbees]

As I said earlier, the trans stamp pad is missing a lot more than correctness on an 833.

A shame for them to tarnish what otherwise seems to be a fairly good used car seller.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

  on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin on the motor it prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars .

I'm more of a 68 person, but can you please elaborate on the floor pan & body pan & extra body plugs? Curious minds must know.

[tan top]

 on the under side pictures , looks like a early 69 ,which I would have thought , would of  had a SPD maybe ...  late December 68 or early January 69 ,  going by the sequential # . but thinking  if it was a January SPD  ( then the vin on the motor it prolly wrong for that  )  it has the extra body plugs missing each side !....  that is found on  later built 69 cars .

I'm more of a 68 person, but can you please elaborate on the floor pan & body pan & extra body plugs? Curious minds must know.

 as mentioned above ,  these plugs were added sometime , during the E series 69 model run , cars with a  SPD of 69 , not E68 ,  ,all 69 daytonas had/ have them, as do all F series 70 . I did have a lot of pictures & close SPDs saved , of  69 E series chargers ,  with & with out  these extra plugs , from both B & G  assembly plants , trying to work out at what SPD , they first started appearing , sadly I lost all that info along with a lot of other charger stuff , when my computer blew up a few years back   . also  cant remember if they coinside with the switch from two battery cooling holes in the core support to just one hole &  or tall bumper guards .....   , like I mentioned , i'm no expert on any of this  , its just pictures & SPDs  & original cars ive looked at studied over the years & stuff I've  learnt from clever members on this awesome site   , that know more about these cars , than I ever will. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Thanks for the education!   

[fy469rtse]

A few of you almost said it,
Myturbinsdirty was on the right track,  yes car was a 70 ! Shocked go back through al the images and you will see the little details to a 70 production ,
Yes a 70 body
Lets see who can list the little details , come lets see how many you can see once you know it's a 70 shell, several have been mentioned already 

[Homerr]

A few of you almost said it,
Myturbinsdirty was on the right track,  yes car was a 70 ! Shocked go back through al the images and you will see the little details to a 70 production ,
Yes a 70 body
Lets see who can list the little details , come lets see how many you can see once you know it's a 70 shell, several have been mentioned already 

Obviously the pistol grip proves that it's a '70.