sun roof 69 charger 4 sale

[ht4spd307]

this is a rare machine http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-SE-/331816284381?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d41cab0dd:g:tuAAAOSw9uFW-eoO&item=331816284381

[moparchris]

WOW.. that really is a rare Charger and certainly worth saving.  I hope someone on this board buys it so we can all follow along.

[crj1968]

Nice-!!! 

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[Mytur Binsdirti]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

[billssuperbird]

It looks like it had a Daytona wing on it at one time. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Mmmm   V21 and a hole in the roof (now more than one hole though )

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

[66FBCharger]

WOW! Great color, great options! I would love this car!

[ht4spd307]

just comparing my tag to this one as my car is very similar beside color and sunroof  i just noticed on my tag it has D32 - which decodes to HD-A-727 torque flite  & also some years A-998  what is a A-998 ?

[Homerr]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

This one will be a labor of love, you wouldn't understand.   

[Homerr]

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[billssuperbird]

It also had the word Daytona on the quarter panel

[Mytur Binsdirti]

This one will be a labor of love, you wouldn't understand.  

Oh, I do understand what a labor of love is, but love can be blind. I'm (slightly) smarter than that these days.   

[Challenger340]

Pretty damn rare car for sure !

R/T SE and "sunroof" ? almost the frigg'in "Holy Grail" IMO ?
That said,
NON #'s, NO B-Sheet, and a repop Fender Tag with the restoration costs ?   

OUCH !

[cbrestorations]

holy cow, its at 20k in the first day

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

No, I mean, I passed on the South Dakota "Crazy Horse R/T Sunroof NOM Charger" back in 1998ish, I think. It was $18k, as it still sits  in the same condition today.

So this one done, and I am being generous, would be a $50k car restored.

Forget the big AZ auctions. I buy my cars at prices which even keep my wife happy.  :Two cents: I think others like to overpay.

[Homerr]

 



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[cbrestorations]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

No, I mean, I passed on the South Dakota "Crazy Horse R/T Sunroof NOM Charger" back in 1998ish, I think. It was $18k, as it still sits  in the same condition today.

So this one done, and I am being generous, would be a $50k car restored.

Forget the big AZ auctions. I buy my cars at prices which even keep my wife happy.  :Two cents: I think others like to overpay.

this car restored would far exceed 50k, a red floor shift r/t car without power windows or sunroof would meet or exceed that. and these are ebay prices not high end auctions

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[Charger_Fan]

Man, that car was a real beauty when it was new! I think if I was checking off the option list back then, I would have likely done everything the same...but I would have added a HEMI & 4-speed.

[miller time]

I could picture the day this car came on the lot new and the son saying " but daddy I wanted a Daytona! " 
Sweet car though, totally teased me with the old Daytona and wing holes on it, but I think it'd be over $40k now if it was

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Man, that car was a real beauty when it was new! I think if I was checking off the option list back then, I would have likely done everything the same...but I would have added a HEMI & 4-speed.

Hemi not avail with SE package

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

No, I mean, I passed on the South Dakota "Crazy Horse R/T Sunroof NOM Charger" back in 1998ish, I think. It was $18k, as it still sits  in the same condition today.

So this one done, and I am being generous, would be a $50k car restored.

Forget the big AZ auctions. I buy my cars at prices which even keep my wife happy.  :Two cents: I think others like to overpay.

this car restored would far exceed 50k, a red floor shift r/t car without power windows or sunroof would meet or exceed that. and these are ebay prices not high end auctions

Not to me, not with a NOM and no paperwork 

[Mikesmoparperformance]

Huh? It is a 1969 Charger or Daytona? Or someone wanted a Wing on a 1969 Charger?

[qwick68]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

No, I mean, I passed on the South Dakota "Crazy Horse R/T Sunroof NOM Charger" back in 1998ish, I think. It was $18k, as it still sits  in the same condition today.

So this one done, and I am being generous, would be a $50k car restored.

Forget the big AZ auctions. I buy my cars at prices which even keep my wife happy.  :Two cents: I think others like to overpay.

this car restored would far exceed 50k, a red floor shift r/t car without power windows or sunroof would meet or exceed that. and these are ebay prices not high end auctions

Agreed!

[XS29LA47V21]

Wow.... V21 Sunroof RTSE.  Very very few V21 RTSEs.... I can't imagine there is more than a handful of V21 RTSEs... not to mention add sunroof and PW.  What a great optioned car (even if I am not a huge red fan).  Gets a guy scratching his head.

[Patronus]

Boy I'd like to fix that one! 

[XS29LA47V21]

Interesting stripe layout assuming that remains the original stripe.  I would be surprised someone put it back on that crooked.  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I'm not. Look at cars with original paint & you'll see how sloppily built these cars actually were.

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I'm not. Look at cars with original paint & you'll see how sloppily built these cars actually were.

true , what MTD said ,   , but in this case

Interesting stripe layout assuming that remains the original stripe.  I would be surprised someone put it back on that crooked.  

nope that's not the original stripe  , take a look at the picture below , see green arrows , they are pointing to the ,  remains of the original stripe , that has been painted over , with body color at some point !   & another black one has been painted on   ( well at least , that's what it looks like  on the top of the quarter )

[WINGMAN]

  Do not find  cruse control. (Wingman)

[Charger_Fan]

Man, that car was a real beauty when it was new! I think if I was checking off the option list back then, I would have likely done everything the same...but I would have added a HEMI & 4-speed.

Hemi not avail with SE package

Aww crap. Well, 440 it is!

[472 R/T SE]

Mmmm   V21 and a hole in the roof (now more than one hole though )

Chris, I think your rig is the only '69 I've seen with the hood black out applied correctly.

[F8-4life]

I hope I am not speaking out of place and this post is not directed torweds anyone in particular in this thread but reading mopar forums in general I find that a popular response in these mopar threads about project cars is the car is going be worth "X" amount restored - done... it will cost much much more the "X" to restore it. Ok so what does this  imply, that we all go dump these in the ocean??   This type of thinking seems to be more financially motivated then passion or historical preservation but even in terms of $$ this logic seems to also forgot the dynamics of supply and demand. This car is one of 29 if I read correctly? The options speak for them selves. You can buy a house on any block and call that an investment but how many of this breed of RT are you going  to find if you happen to want one? How about 20 yrs from now? I don't mean to rant but it is slightly annoying to me to hear this so often in a hobby that should mean a lot more then just $$.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Mmmm   V21 and a hole in the roof (now more than one hole though )

Chris, I think your rig is the only '69 I've seen with the hood black out applied correctly.

Ha thanks Mike!  it was professionally applied by the "Mann" ya know   I actually used a template tracing that taken from member LeesRT original V21 car from CA.  Bill440RT used it on has sublime '69 as well....

[XS29LA47V21]

I'm not. Look at cars with original paint & you'll see how sloppily built these cars actually were.

true , what MTD said ,   , but in this case

Interesting stripe layout assuming that remains the original stripe.  I would be surprised someone put it back on that crooked.  

nope that's not the original stripe  , take a look at the picture below , see green arrows , they are pointing to the ,  remains of the original stripe , that has been painted over , with body color at some point !   & another black one has been painted on   ( well at least , that's what it looks like  on the top of the quarter )

I stand corrected  :slap:as I was clearly temporally blinded by such a cool rare creature about the repaint, pretty obvious that it was repainted at least in part or maybe all.  Saying on the stripe it is quite a bit off and agree they are sloppy.  I have 3 cars at this time that still hold original stripes and others in the past and they do very quite a bit which I find interesting.   Car I have a friend painting I hope to match were the stripe was.

Have not talked with Lee in many years and I am sure he likely would not remember me but he share a tracing and measurement with me too.  A real nice guy to help with that as there is little real information out there and the graphics from Chrysler which as I recall Dave Paddock shared , also helpful, but that detail lacks measurements and has just a graphic for the little swoops on the cowl at the corners of the windshield.   Both together provide some good info....on the V21 details.  Now to talk about the correct paint for the V21....

[472 R/T SE]

Chris, remember our Bill (daytonakid) who restored the A4 Silver '69 Charger R/T that sold for $100k @ BJ few years back.
He also did a ground up on an fc7 purple convertible Superbird.
Those were a couple that were seen on this forum.

He does absolutely fantastic work.     Luckily he supposedly said he was gonna still take care of us but he sold his shop & retired.

I asked him why his black out was the way it was & now I can't remember what he said.  You know how your mind will find something that catches your attention & you end up focusing on it every time.

I had a cover on my dash pad of my blue Charger.  DROVE me nuts.


Anyhoots, I'm pretty sure I remember you laying V21 down.  You had a naked call out prior to the black out, correct?  Anyhoots, whenever I see a '69 with black out I immediately check out the cowl, lol.  

[cbrestorations]

I easily see 60-70 grand going into that car to bring it back. Non-matching numbers and no broadcast sheet......what's it worth done?

under $50k   

Perhaps if one has the ability to do body work themselves and save 15+ grand, I can agree with that figure, but since I don't do bodywork myself, I'm sticking to the original figure.   

Assuming that the car can be bought for 20 and you put 50 into it, is it worth 70?

No, I mean, I passed on the South Dakota "Crazy Horse R/T Sunroof NOM Charger" back in 1998ish, I think. It was $18k, as it still sits  in the same condition today.

So this one done, and I am being generous, would be a $50k car restored.

Forget the big AZ auctions. I buy my cars at prices which even keep my wife happy.  :Two cents: I think others like to overpay.

this car restored would far exceed 50k, a red floor shift r/t car without power windows or sunroof would meet or exceed that. and these are ebay prices not high end auctions

Agreed!

lets say this car will hit 30k, which it may do so, so if someone will pay 30k for a non numbers matching rare r/t that needs restored. they will surely pay over 50k when restored. ide say restored this car could hit 75-85k even on ebay. doesnt matter what you think...its what others will pay.

[XS29LA47V21]

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lets say this car will hit 30k, which it may do so, so if someone will pay 30k for a non numbers matching rare r/t that needs restored. they will surely pay over 50k when restored. ide say restored this car could hit 75-85k even on ebay. doesnt matter what you think...its what others will pay.
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All reasonable thoughts we all buy or enjoy them and talking about aspects.  We all like something.  This car is super great, imo and because it is a hobby for me... a boat, travel, cabin, whatever for others I can happily buy at strong money a super optioned car, maybe as much as 20% and not hurt my feelings.  And I have in the past and I liked that old car and still have it, gave 4500 back in 87 worth more now maybe.. don't care that much.  Done it more than once likely.  I am not a player and have talked myself out of this one, but personally I still like it anywhere in the 30s....      I surely am not the only one.  I heard the reserve today and it will be interesting seeing what it goes for and hopefully it finds a good home.  Sorta unrelated, love PW... but so done....do not want any more PW cars and can only imagine the hassles with sunroofs???

[Mytur Binsdirti]

$26,050.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-SE-/331816284381?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d41cab0dd:g:tuAAAOSw9uFW-eoO&item=331816284381


That's a lot of coin for something that needs so much.

[ws23rt]

$26,050.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-SE-/331816284381?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d41cab0dd:g:tuAAAOSw9uFW-eoO&item=331816284381


That's a lot of coin for something that needs so much.

The value of that "coin" is very much diminished these days and demand for the best looking dodge continues to go up. --Supply,demand, and a speculators view of the future are what give us this conversation.

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[Beep Beep Dave]

That really is quite the car. What a beauty If you are going to take on a full resto I think this one would be very rewarding when you finished it. Hopefully the broadcast sheet and engine get reunited with this one.

Dave

[XS29LA47V21]

 
It does really need a lot, but rarity and hobby combine for some that can or are willing to give more.  If that was a "plain" RT these days it might have been in the 15-20 so the apparent selling price seems like a smoking deal imo.  Shirley that exceptional rare stack of options is worth 10k or a little more to some... what a great buy.

Cool Car.   Anyone here buy it?

[DAY CLONA]

I hope I am not speaking out of place and this post is not directed torweds anyone in particular in this thread but reading mopar forums in general I find that a popular response in these mopar threads about project cars is the car is going be worth "X" amount restored - done... it will cost much much more the "X" to restore it. Ok so what does this  imply, that we all go dump these in the ocean??   This type of thinking seems to be more financially motivated then passion or historical preservation but even in terms of $$ this logic seems to also forgot the dynamics of supply and demand. This car is one of 29 if I read correctly? The options speak for them selves. You can buy a house on any block and call that an investment but how many of this breed of RT are you going  to find if you happen to want one? How about 20 yrs from now? I don't mean to rant but it is slightly annoying to me to hear this so often in a hobby that should mean a lot more then just $$.

Agreed, sad but that's what the hobby has become it seems for most, total fixation on stock restorations, with minimal dollar investment for maximum dollar return, the "value", the "value this or that" seems all you hear, what happened to the true enthusiast who didn't care what the costs were/are, just the desire to have a cool ride?...heavens if the next owner who buys this Charger does a color change, engine upgrade, 4 spd swap he'll be the scourge of the resto crowd, kinda like the thread here on the purple 70 Superbee vert, I miss the old days when the only numbers that mattered and passionately discussed were the horsepower, 1/4 mile times, or number of carbs under the hood, or the number of gears under the shifter, or the rear diff ratio, not the numbers on a tin tag, or on a assy line piece of trash stuffed under a rear seat, or the date code on a fan belt, or how much Ebay reselling prices are, or other possible auction forecasts based on the selling price, resto costs, potential net gain/loss, coming out "upside down" value wise after purchase and resto etc, etc

[ht4spd307]

well unfortunately it has become about the value and numbers matching comes into play due to the excessive cost of building one of these beautiful machines .years ago for a couple of grand someone would repair and paint a car now your looking into the 10 of thousands of dollars  and that's body alone then trim  etc etc now if your spending that sort of money you sure want to re coop that money somehow lets just say  for some unforeseen circumstance you have to sell up you at least want your money back and if it a base model or nothing special your not getting that money back and I'm not saying its not about enjoying the car but at a big loss.that's why you have to look at a car as an investment these days unfortunately unless you are able to do the restoration yourself   but at the same time mines not going to be a trailer queen either   

[Charger_Fan]

Cool Car.   Anyone here buy it?

Not me. Not that I wouldn't have liked to!