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440 valve cover gaskets

Started by blinkey, March 27, 2016, 08:14:33 PM

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blinkey

   Trying on my 69  440 to put the valve covers on 3 times and they still leak,,,,,any secrets out there? Im useing the rubber ones

303 Mopar

Every rubber gasket I have tried leaked.  Go with cork with the thin metal band in the middle.
1968 Charger - 1970 Cuda - 1969 Sport Satellite Convertible

c00nhunterjoe

Ive had good luck with the moroso blue's. Steel core rubber overmold.

Dino

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on March 27, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Ive had good luck with the moroso blue's. Steel core rubber overmold.

I bought the same ones and they look awesome! Won't know how well they work for a long time to come though but I'm optimistic.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

crj1968

I finally got mine to stop leaking with cheapo fel-pro cork gaskets and a thin sheen of rtv

polywideblock

permatex ultra  copper rtv for all here   :Twocents:


                                                       


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Mopar Nut

Quote from: Dino on March 27, 2016, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on March 27, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Ive had good luck with the moroso blue's. Steel core rubber overmold.

I bought the same ones and they look awesome! Won't know how well they work for a long time to come though but I'm optimistic.

x3
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

blinkey

   Do you use the permatex on its own , or with a gasket

lukedukem

Quote from: polywideblock on March 28, 2016, 01:09:28 AM
permatex ultra  copper rtv for all here   :Twocents:


                                                       

This stuff, with felpro cork gasket. no leaks

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Dino

Quote from: blinkey on March 28, 2016, 08:32:24 AM
   Do you use the permatex on its own , or with a gasket

With a gasket.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

birdsandbees

I installed my valve covers that last time in 1989. Cheapest cork gasket sold and I can't even remember if I put my old aviation gasket sealer on them. Still not leaking on car pull down.

Remember, do not over tighten the bolts!
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487


polywideblock

Quote from: blinkey on March 28, 2016, 08:32:24 AM
   Do you use the permatex on its own , or with a gasket

  steel core rubber (blue ) , put copper  on both sides fit and do up finger tight, let set overnight and torque to spec 


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

oestermarken

Quote from: Mopar Nut on March 28, 2016, 01:50:40 AM
Quote from: Dino on March 27, 2016, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on March 27, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Ive had good luck with the moroso blue's. Steel core rubber overmold.

I bought the same ones and they look awesome! Won't know how well they work for a long time to come though but I'm optimistic.

x3
:iagree:
69 383 4bbl
White Hat Special
Light Bronze Metallic

PlainfieldCharger

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on March 27, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Ive had good luck with the moroso blue's. Steel core rubber overmold.
I have these permatexed to the valve cover only. I can take it off and put it back on anytime. NO LEAKS

blinkey

Sounds good I found the permatex gold. Now what should I use to clean the oil with on the valve cover and head.,,,,,varsol?

PlainfieldCharger

I like to use Naptha. It is a strong cleaner that leaves no residue. You can get it at a Hardware store.  :Twocents:   

BSB67

Interesting.  I've never used a sealant of any type on valve covers.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

birdsandbees

Quote from: BSB67 on March 29, 2016, 06:02:06 PM
Interesting.  I've never used a sealant of any type on valve covers.
:2thumbs:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

mopar0166

I have eddy heads, and alum cal custom valve covers.  I use cork and they seal great.  I also use a stud kit for the hardware.   no more leaks for me and I keep a stock of gaskets in the garage just in case.   reusable is never really reusuable they leak for a reason

miller time

Cork and black rtv with some brake clean on a rag and your good,  if you have stainless valve cover bolts, IMMEDIATELY put them in the trash!!
I put grade 8 bolts and stainless washers, that way if you over torque them by 2 lbs they won't snap off like stainless, its worth a $5 dollars and hassle, oh and some never seize, especially if you have a aluminum heads like me :D

mopar0166


PlainfieldCharger

Quote from: BSB67 on March 29, 2016, 06:02:06 PM
Interesting.  I've never used a sealant of any type on valve covers.
Here was something I found after I put my gaskets on...
This must be your reasoning... :2thumbs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEcf0itBuE


mopar0166

no need for sealant for you crush the cork without killing it.  I replace them every spring and mid summer to give the aluminum valve covers a good deep cleaning.  haven't used sealant in years.  I know some like spray adhesive to keep the gasket in place but I moved on to studs the never move on me now.

blinkey

Thats a great idea. Are you using 6 studs, slide the gasket on , then place the valve cover on. That way gasket stays put

mopar0166

yes works great ,and worse case if you get a leak it really is that big of grind to take it off and try again

BSB67

Quote from: PlainfieldCharger on March 30, 2016, 09:00:32 AM
Quote from: BSB67 on March 29, 2016, 06:02:06 PM
Interesting.  I've never used a sealant of any type on valve covers.
Here was something I found after I put my gaskets on...
This must be your reasoning... :2thumbs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEcf0itBuE

Not really.  There are a couple of places I might use it depending on the parts and materials of construction of the parts, gasket material.  Just never thought of using on valve covers, and never had a problem putting them on dry.

I think the guy in the video is a bit over the top, IMO.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

mopar0166

I always just put on new gaskets if I got a leak after install or one crushed too much you shouldn't need extra adhesive

blinkey

  So tonite Im gonna try the Felpro hard black gaskets cause I already bought them, I dont like them, just sayin ,,,a feeling

crj1968

Quote from: blinkey on March 31, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
 So tonite Im gonna try the Felpro hard black gaskets cause I already bought them, I dont like them, just sayin ,,,a feeling

I've got the same feeling

Noticed a leak this morning from pass. side valve cover. So I tried to tighten it up a bit...and then it became a gusher.   :brickwall:

All my parts store had was the hard fel-pros as well. They don't fit very well in the cover so I had to trim them up....we'll see.   :rotz:
I need rubber gasket with a notch in it that you put on the head first.   :scratchchin: