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Chevy guy needs to build a 68 Charger

Started by 2002TransAm, March 27, 2016, 07:43:35 PM

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2002TransAm

Hello Mopar ladies and gentleman I am a diesel mechanic trade and a Chevy guy by choice (insert your quips now). I have a guy that wants to build a 68 charger he just bought into a charger r/t he doesn't have the mechanical ability to do the work so he's having me do it on the side for him. What he wants is a car that looks stock but drives new here is the reason I need some help. The car right now is a 318 power brake power steering car with shifter on the column and a bench seat Ill have pics up of the car when it gets to me this week. If I could get your guys help in avoiding parts pitfalls that would be awesome. Here is the build as planned 408 stroker from blueprint with ez-efi A518 overdrive trans and converting it to buckets and console shift RMS front suspension and 4 wheel disc from RMS new fuel system and cooling system, he wants a/c added into the car. I will have the diff built in-house at my shop and modify driveline. We are going to have someone else do the body and paint but he wants it to look like an R/T with the square brake lights and he wants the console and shifter and gauges to be stock looking. Me being a chevy guy can I get some member help as to which R/T he is talking about he doesn't know which year it is I think from what I've found 69 R/T.  If you guys have suggestions on which parts would work better or problems that I'm going to run into any help would be appreciated. The Blueprint engine is the 425hp 500pdft version with ez-efi he doesn't want a race car but he doesn't want his doors blown off by a Honda civic either.

On a side note its not that I don't like Mopar's just can't afford them a very good friend of mine is Mopar or no car and I helped him race his Dodge Dart down into the 9s. He also owned a AAR cuda' and a 383 powered challenger that would make you weak in the knees.
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cbrestorations

round tail lights are 68, the more rectangle lights are 69-70. sounds like you already have a game plan, but if ur looking for parts theres alot of guys here who can help. you will need a floor shift steering column and a complete center console with shifter setup. bucket seats will bolt right in with drilling 4 holes to complete the set. vintage air makes a good aftermarket a/c system thats half the weight of the stock setup is not less.

2002TransAm

Quote from: cbrestorations on March 27, 2016, 07:55:19 PM
round tail lights are 68, the more rectangle lights are 69-70. sounds like you already have a game plan, but if ur looking for parts theres alot of guys here who can help. you will need a floor shift steering column and a complete center console with shifter setup. bucket seats will bolt right in with drilling 4 holes to complete the set. vintage air makes a good aftermarket a/c system thats half the weight of the stock setup is not less.


Thanks cbrestorations for the great info. As for my game plan I don't know this is just what I've come up with working on researching this project for about a week so if you guys have better suggestions on what parts are best for a restomod I'm all ears his idea originally was a 6.4 hemi and 8 speed trans all new from mopar. Then budget constraints made us step back from that plan.
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Dino

68s didn't come with a bench seat, buckets only. He likely has a buddy seat between the bucket seats so all he has to do is remove it and install a console. You'll need to weld console brackets on the floor, they are readily available.
Base Chargers and R/Ts look the same except for the badges and tailstripe. Does he want to change the look from a 68 to a 69? That'll take a lot more work and is something I just don't support. He's better off selling the 68 and buying a 69.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

2002TransAm

Quote from: Dino on March 27, 2016, 08:09:05 PM
68s didn't come with a bench seat, buckets only. He likely has a buddy seat between the bucket seats so all he has to do is remove it and install a console. You'll need to weld console brackets on the floor, they are readily available.
Base Chargers and R/Ts look the same except for the badges and tailstripe. Does he want to change the look from a 68 to a 69? That'll take a lot more work and is something I just don't support. He's better off selling the 68 and buying a 69.


I will know for sure what I'm dealing with monday or tuesday when he gets it trailered to me. I think he just wants the rectangle brake lights in it is it a body mod or bolt in difference. I know he doesn't know all the  changes from 68 to 69 because he wasn't sure exactly what car he saw that he wanted.  The guy I'm doing this for is a longtime friend of my father so out of respect for my dad I'm out of my car mod comfort zone. I can build a chevy and know all the differences and I can build a Semi from the ground up. Where my knowledge lacks is the best places to upgrade the parts and the changes to the cars through the years. What I don't want is a LS powered 68 charger or doing a change to this car that the owner wants and all Mopar guys would shoot me for, remember one of my good friends is a mopar fanatic and if I screw up he will shoot me.
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Dino

Don't get shot!   :lol:

We can help you find the right parts, that's not a problem.

The change in taillights would mean having to replace the tail panel. I'm really not a fan of making one car look like another but it's his car.  You'd need a 69 tail panel, tail lights, emblem, and stainless trim. If you're careful you can drill the spotwelds and weld in the new panel without having to repaint the quarters.

The style of lights have nothing to do with it being an R/T though. All 68s had round tail lights and all 69s and 70s had the long rectangular kind, be it base models or R/Ts.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

2002TransAm

Quote from: Dino on March 27, 2016, 08:29:12 PM
Don't get shot!   :lol:

We can help you find the right parts, that's not a problem.

The change in taillights would mean having to replace the tail panel. I'm really not a fan of making one car look like another but it's his car.  You'd need a 69 tail panel, tail lights, emblem, and stainless trim. If you're careful you can drill the spotwelds and weld in the new panel without having to repaint the quarters.

The style of lights have nothing to do with it being an R/T though. All 68s had round tail lights and all 69s and 70s had the long rectangular kind, be it base models or R/Ts.

Thanks Dino I really do appreciate the help thats exactly the kind of stuff I'm trying to find out he's going to get it repainted as well. It sounds like its just the lower range 68 charger since it has the 318 and column shift auto but I will post the numbers to make sure that I am not dealing with some rare breed that needs to be restored not modified.
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2002TransAm

what is the difference between the small block la and small block magnum. I can buy a 360 magnum engine from one of the guys at work but when I look up 408 stroker kits I can get them for the LA not the magnum on summit. I would like the engine to be a full roller engine and the blueprint engine I'm looking at is flat tappet. Is the magnum 360 block the same as LA 360 block I realise the head difference but what I want to know is if I buy the scat rotating assembly for an LA will it fit in a Magnum. Sorry to ask a question that Im sure every Mopar guy knows but when I google the difference it shows no short block difference but summit doesn't show that the kit is available.
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Homerr

You're the kind of Chevy guy we like - one who asks the questions instead of going all LS on it.   :2thumbs:

Any chance you can get the owner to register here and chime in?

It's been done before to change years on a 68-70 Charger but most of us cringe at the thought.  If we could get a clear statement from the owner we might understand what is wanted for the end result, looks-wise.

Who knows, for the right car a trade might even work better to have a 69 body with a 68 grille - if that's the look.

And then maybe we can all have a come to Jesus moment on what the overall budget is likely to be and see if the owner blinks.  Generally, if this Charger is unrestored then usually the rear glass channel, trunk floor, and at least lower quarters need to be replaced as they rust out - as a minimum.

myk

The 68 tail lights are the best; I can't believe some people prefer the later tail lights.  In any case, it'd be interesting to see where this project truly is with some pictures.  Reality has a sometimes tragic way of changing people's plans...

68pplcharger


Brass


Baldwinvette77

Sounds cool!, i cant offer much help, but im looking forward to seeing the progress and the end result  :popcrn:

Bronzedodge

There's a fairly good book that describes all the differences.  If you like to read, & have reference books around....

http://www.amazon.com/Build-Big-Inch-Mopar-Small-Blocks/dp/193249457X

The author seems a little biased toward the newer blocks and heads, opinions vary of course....just my take on it.
Mopar forever!

charger chris

 :popcrn: welcome to the site. Can't wait to see pics of the car as it gets done and put together.  :2thumbs: oh p.s. Save your money if you want a mopar hell I know you make more money then me. Plus I know g.m. Guys that went mopar and said they would never go back to g.m.  :2thumbs:
i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone

2002TransAm

Thanks for the support guys here are the first pics I have of the car it is supposed to be delivered to me tomorrow.
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2002TransAm

Here is the passenger side.
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Troy

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 27, 2016, 10:49:52 PM
what is the difference between the small block la and small block magnum. I can buy a 360 magnum engine from one of the guys at work but when I look up 408 stroker kits I can get them for the LA not the magnum on summit. I would like the engine to be a full roller engine and the blueprint engine I'm looking at is flat tappet. Is the magnum 360 block the same as LA 360 block I realise the head difference but what I want to know is if I buy the scat rotating assembly for an LA will it fit in a Magnum. Sorry to ask a question that Im sure every Mopar guy knows but when I google the difference it shows no short block difference but summit doesn't show that the kit is available.
Other than the taillights, this one is an issue. A real R/T would have had a big block - and not just any big block, a 440 or Hemi. You open the hood with a small block in there and any halfway decent Mopar guy will pick up on it right away (if they didn't already look at the VIN number). The Magnum motors were just the newer version of the LA small block. The primary difference is in the heads (much better flowing on the Magnum). That means a different bolt pattern for the heads (and also the valve covers). Other noticeable differences - the Magnums all had roller cams from the factory and all(?) had serpentine belt systems. You can retrofit the LA timing cover and accessories but you'll need to add a timing eccentric to the front of the cam (or buy an extended cam) to run the mechanical fuel pump (Magnums were all injected). The motor mounts are different from a big block - but also between small blocks. The 360 had larger crank journals so be careful which stroker kit you buy (ie don't try to fit a 340/392 into a 360/408) but all the 408 stroker cranks should fit either version of a 360. Do some research before buying the Scat parts. The stroker kits should be easy to find for Magnum or LA - possibly cheaper somewhere other than Summit. Try these guys:
http://www.mrlperformance.com/

Make sure you get the correct converter for whatever engine and balance you end up with. Magnum engines were balanced differently than LA engines - and you can buy a "balanced" stroker kit.

If you want to swap taillights it required a new tail panel (they don't interchange). Along with that, there are a bunch of other differences between a 68 and 69 Charger (Grill, hood, fenders, marker lights, seats, dash, etc.).

Troy
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2002TransAm

Thank you Troy thats exactly the kind of info I need. Ill talk to the owner about the differences besides the taillights. He isn't to worried about making the running gear correct or a show car restoration he just wants it to drive like a new one and still look like the old one on the interior and exterior. Could I get someone to post a picture of a correct exterior of a 69 R/T and 70 R/T. I don't want to google it because I won't  know what the actual cars look like without knowing if someone fiddled with them or if that person has an accurate description.
Basic math is very important, because the difference between 5 and 6 shots can be very important.
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charger chris

i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone

E86/A47

Welcome to the site, you came to the right place!

69 front



69 rear



70 front



70 rear




That's a nice 68, great starting point. It's the owners car to do with as he wishes but try to talk him out of changing the tail lights. It will look silly to most mopar fans, the round turn signals, different grill, etc.

It would be like putting a 71 or 72 chevelle front clip on a 70...

2002TransAm

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Baldwinvette77

I'd leave that 68 as a 68, it looks good from the pictures, but if it turns out to be a rotted out bondo bucket, then i guess as you rebuild it you can clone it as a 69 or 70. but again, it looks good as it is  :coolgleamA:

2002TransAm

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on March 28, 2016, 07:59:34 PM
I'd leave that 68 as a 68, it looks good from the pictures, but if it turns out to be a rotted out bondo bucket, then i guess as you rebuild it you can clone it as a 69 or 70. but again, it looks good as it is  :coolgleamA:


I agree whole heartedly especially since its not my car and not my money. Im just the one putting the time into it and trying to get it done fast enough that my wife won't kill me for being in the garage forever on  someone else's car.

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cdr

2002ta i sent you a link in the engine section
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

2002TransAm

By the way mopar guys and gals you will be happy to know that my TransAm will have to sit outside the entire time this project goes on :bawling:
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Dino

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
By the way mopar guys and gals you will be happy to know that my TransAm will have to sit outside the entire time this project goes on :bawling:

That sucks!

We're getting my wife's Trans Am out of winter storage tomorrow. She's been itching to let it loose.  :lol:

2002 WS6 with ram air and T56 transmission. Really nice car.   :yesnod:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

2002TransAm

Quote from: Dino on March 28, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
By the way mopar guys and gals you will be happy to know that my TransAm will have to sit outside the entire time this project goes on :bawling:

That sucks!

We're getting my wife's Trans Am out of winter storage tomorrow. She's been itching to let it loose.  :lol:

2002 WS6 with ram air and T56 transmission. Really nice car.   :yesnod:


Awesome Dino  :2thumbs: got the same options as mine does
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Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 05:33:40 PM
Thanks for the support guys here are the first pics I have of the car it is supposed to be delivered to me tomorrow.




When you start taking the original parts off that you aren't going to use...

Be careful not to damage them in the removal process...


And then...

Sell them to me !  :callme:

Homerr

The 68 does look like a good starting point.

Make sure the rear axle is an 8.75" unit and not some 7.25" garbage.  The 8.75" is common and has a pumpkin removable to the front of the car like a Ford 9".  The units were available with and without Sure-Grip (posi to you  ;) ).  Take a look at the slideshow in this article to see all the differences and best case castings to get.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/transmission-drivetrain/ccrp-1210-sure-grip-chrysler-differential-swap/

Disregard the 8.25" and 9.25" ones on this chart, they won't be on the car.

Dino

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:48:18 PM
Quote from: Dino on March 28, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
By the way mopar guys and gals you will be happy to know that my TransAm will have to sit outside the entire time this project goes on :bawling:

That sucks!

We're getting my wife's Trans Am out of winter storage tomorrow. She's been itching to let it loose.  :lol:

2002 WS6 with ram air and T56 transmission. Really nice car.   :yesnod:


Awesome Dino  :2thumbs: got the same options as mine does

And in white! I like white.  :icon_smile_big:

It's a blast to drive. Once I'm done ith grad school I'll be dropping a T56 in my Charger.   :drive:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

myk

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:48:18 PM
Quote from: Dino on March 28, 2016, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 28, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
By the way mopar guys and gals you will be happy to know that my TransAm will have to sit outside the entire time this project goes on :bawling:

That sucks!

We're getting my wife's Trans Am out of winter storage tomorrow. She's been itching to let it loose.  :lol:

2002 WS6 with ram air and T56 transmission. Really nice car.   :yesnod:


Awesome Dino  :2thumbs: got the same options as mine does

I've got a '99 that I've cloned a WS6 with; it's got everything including the crappy power steering cooler and with the later Speedline wheels.  Truly fantastic cars that I'm amazed that GM built...

Mike DC

  
QuoteDisregard the 8.25" and 9.25" ones on this chart, they won't be on the car.


In theory that's true.  But there is no telling what might be under a car after 45 years.  

The 8.25 came on a lot of 1969 cars.  It wouldn't take a very big stretch to find one under a '68.  Perhaps even a dealer warranty replacement.  Stranger things have happened.  
 

2002TransAm

Ok guys I got the car in my possession  :brickwall: it's a travesty of redneckness it is a massively bondoed car it has a newer floor pan on driver side and trunk repaired it runs and stops kinda it has rust hiding under all the paint and it has some quarters welded in the guy who did the repairs didn't even bother to weld the floor or trunk back to the torque tube frame assembly it's all loose. So I'm going to get it home and strip out the interior and see if the owner want to mess with this one or punt it. He was planning on changing all 4 quarters to the 69 so that fixes the horrible body problems the frame and structure actually looks good it has a solid structure that doesn't look butchered.
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Dino

Ouch!

If it doesn't have any rare option on the fender tag or build sheet then I don't think many will mind a custom job, but still going from a 68 to a 69 is a bit sad. You'll have to change out a whole lot more than quarters and fenders to accomplish that job though.

If it's in that bad a shape maybe it's not a bad idea to let it go and look for a 69.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

2002TransAm

The fender tag is 3/4 gone from rust and unreadable.
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Troy

I must have been typing when you posted the pictures. Looks can be deceiving (especially small pictures). That's why you always look at a car in person before you buy (or have someone else do it). I still wouldn't try to make it a 69 - if you don't go all the way it will look half-assed. If you do go all the way people will wonder why you just didn't start with a 69 because it won't be worth 68 or 69 money. Not a problem if the owner never intends to sell. The biggest expense in making a 69 will be the grill - although some of the pieces will interchange.

Generally these things need some floor pan work. Usually lower quarters and some repair work around the rear window. When you start getting into rockers, frame rails, cowls, roof structure, etc. the costs add up fast.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

E86/A47

can you let us know what the owner paid for it and post more pics? Maybe you can punt it to someone here.

Mike DC

                  
Bear in mind that the average Mopar guy restores a body that Chevy guys would pass up all day long.  "Severe rust" is a relative term.  
   

As for the 68/69 year conversion -  A lot depends on how keen the owner is on the details.  If he wants it to look like a 69 at a glance, that is do-able.  It only takes some exterior parts and seat covers.  Half the Chargers used on "Dukes of Hazzard" back in the day were 1968s with only the grilles & taillights changed over.  

If the owner wants the year conversion to look 100% correct to other Mopar guys?  Forget it.  You'd be swapping 2/3rds of the pieces on the car, mostly for stupid little differences like the grain patterns on the vinyl or the door lock levers moving a few inches.  It is absolutely not worth the trouble.  

 

charger chris

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 29, 2016, 05:40:29 PM
                 
Bear in mind that the average Mopar guy restores a body that Chevy guys would pass up all day long.  "Severe rust" is a relative term.  
   

As for the 68/69 year conversion -  A lot depends on how keen the owner is on the details.  If he wants it to look like a 69 at a glance, that is do-able.  It only takes some exterior parts and seat covers.  Half the Chargers used on "Dukes of Hazzard" back in the day were 1968s with only the grilles & taillights changed over.  

If the owner wants the year conversion to look 100% correct to other Mopar guys?  Forget it.  You'd be swapping 2/3rds of the pieces on the car, mostly for stupid little differences like the grain patterns on the vinyl or the door lock levers moving a few inches.  It is absolutely not worth the trouble.  

 
:2thumbs: most of the part for 68-70 are the same. Just have little differences that most wouldn't care about. The things that would catch the eye is tail lights,side marker lights,grills and for 70 Front clip is different. The inside is same for the most part.
i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone

charger chris

If this 68 under side is good and solid he is in good shape. He's doing better then me. He has all the parts to for the most part to keep it kinda cheap. All you have to do is get the metal that is needed and reuse the other parts. Sell the parts to bring down the cost some. That's what I would do. As long as he is happy with it that's all that matters. :popcrn:
i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: 2002TransAm on March 29, 2016, 03:18:28 PM
Ok guys I got the car in my possession  :brickwall: it's a travesty of redneckness it is a massively bondoed car



Dump it and run.  :Twocents:

2002TransAm

Ok Im going to photo bomb this the interior is useless it even has the optional white door panel on one side and black interior on some of the rest all metal repair is little pieces of whatever crap steel they had lying around the rear taillights have like thirty little pieces tack welded to help hold them in place. hood is trash I'm surprised it didn't fold in half from the cracks and damage in it. The rock guards under the front and rear bumpers are welded on and then they used a dotco to cut a groove to make it look more right.
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2002TransAm

driverside
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2002TransAm

vin and fender tag
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2002TransAm

body lines and the taillight repair
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2002TransAm

broad shot of the interior all that I removed is a useless bench seat out of a bus I think the front half of the carpet gas pedal and the two side trim pieces
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2002TransAm

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2002TransAm

The owner of the car is wondering what this car is worth as it sits and how much making it safe to run and drive would make it worth. I realize and he realizes that you guys can't give the exact number but he kind of wants to know where he is at. He does know that if he restores it he will never get out what he puts into it and he doesn't plan on selling it if he does rebuild it but he is a realistic to in that he doesn't want to burying good money in a car he should cut and run from. Remember Im doing the labor for mechanical I'm doing it cheap but not free, but Im not doing the body work all the fenders and rust repair and paint I can do it but I can't take that much time off from my family. So figure all body work done in a body shop and you can see where dumping this one and picking a different one might be a better plan.
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Dino

There are very few Chargers that are worth the cost of restoration, that's a given. I haven't seen enough of the car to put a real world value on it. Rolling bodies go for lots of money but you're always better of buying a car that's complete and in good shape.

This car will cost many tens of thousands to fix, no doubt there. I would try to recuperate the investment and let it go for something better. And if it's a 69 that he wants the look only for a 69, they're out there. It'll be a whole let less cost and headache to deal with.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

2002TransAm

Really its a restorable car got fix a lot of someone else's screw ups and where we have the problem is going to be the body work figures if it ends up being 30 grand plus to bury in body repair it puts the car up where the owner is uncomfortable to spend that much on it total. We are planing on spending 20 grand or so on drivetrain so 30 grand could buy you a nice car body thats almost ready to shoot or is good.
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Dino

Almost any unrestored Charger will need work ni the trunk and bottom of quarters and such, but that's nothing compared to unearthing what's hidden under these previous "repairs".

There's much better candidates out there. This can be fixed for sure, but at what cost?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

cbrestorations

just sell it and buy a 69, you will be better off if thats what he really wants

bull

If the owner only wants to change the '68 tail panel to a '69 tail panel and leave the rest it's going to screw up the look and the potential value. I'm sure Chevy guys have an unwritten list of no-nos, this is on the Mopar guys list of no-nos. It's probably like converting a '68 Camaro to have '67-style wing window doors. Why would anyone do that?

As for the rust and redneck body work, well, that seems to be par for the course anymore. On this site and in person we've seen guys take virtually all the sheet metal off a 2nd gen Charger and install all new reproduction sheet metal. In many ways it's easier, faster and (depending on the skill level of the body shop) it can be cheaper. Unless you've got a lot more time than money.

2002TransAm

Ok guys and gals the owner has decided to sell this one and try to find a 69 R/T or 69 R/T clone that doesn't need this much bodywork. He would be open to trading this car and cash for a good 69, or outright sell it I will get the price for this one to you guys soon as he lets me know what he is going to ask for it. If you guys could keep your ears to the ground for the owner that would be awesome if you have any questions about this one I will try to answer them as best I can and if you are interested in the car shoot me a message.
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Baldwinvette77

Well that.. de-escalated quickly, i hope to see the next car then  :popcrn:

2002TransAm

Ok guys and gals the yellow banana project is back on but revamped it Im in process of tearing it down and turning it into a hot rod without all the original plan we will see where it goes from here. I talked the owner into buying an actual 69 in better condition and he did here is the link to the car when it was at mecum auto auction it didn't sell there we bought it from and individual.
https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/KC0415-209588/0/1969-Dodge-Charger-R/T-SE/Automatic/
It is a super nice and clean 69 RT SE.
Here is a picture of the 68 in my garage.
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2002TransAm

He plans on keeping both of the cars at this time one a hot rod matte black car and the other just a nice 69.
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Dino

Awesome!

That's a nice '69. Always loved those saddle tan interiors.

If you're going for a flat black hot rod '68 you might want to take a look at CDRs Charger for motivation from time to time.   ;)
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qwick68

Dam that's a nice 69.....care to share what he paid?
68 Charger LL-1 Turquoise

E86/A47

That is one sharp RT/SE! I'd be interested to know what the magic number was on it. I'd guess somewhere in the 40-50 range...? Let us know how the 68 is coming along.

2002TransAm

So I was grinding out some of the bad spots in the paint and found this bondo patch I think the door is going to need replaced  :o
Basic math is very important, because the difference between 5 and 6 shots can be very important.
"You feeling Lucky Punk"

2002TransAm

The top has some pitting in it from the old vinyl top that was on it.
Basic math is very important, because the difference between 5 and 6 shots can be very important.
"You feeling Lucky Punk"

2002TransAm

On a high note though the 408 fuel injected stroker is ordered and will be here next week and the american power train overdrive trans is ordered and will be here in 2-3 weeks. :2thumbs:
Basic math is very important, because the difference between 5 and 6 shots can be very important.
"You feeling Lucky Punk"

charger chris

i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone