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68 Charger R/T Resurection

Started by Tom68, March 16, 2016, 03:28:33 PM

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Tom68

I've really enjoyed all the build threads on this site and elsewhere on the net.  So I thought I probably should payback a little and post on my build.

First a little history.  I purchased the car a little more than 20 years ago.  It's a 68 Charger R/T with a clear title but it had been mostly stripped down to the uni-body.  

Tail panel – great shape
Lower rear valence – rusted badly (a replacement from a donor car came with the deal)
Trunk floor – rusted badly
Rear frame rails in great shape (which was curious considering how bad the trunk floor was)
Quarters & outer wheel houses – rusted
Inner wheel houses – Ok, but needed a few patches
Floor pans – good
Rocker panels – rusted
Roof – had a vinyl top, but half of it is badly pitted with a few rust holes
Firewall – very good shape, factory paint looked quite good.

That brings me to the front frame, inner fender panels, and radiator support.  They had been grafted on from another car.  I was told a story about the car being in a junk yard and it was being cut up when the previous owner found it and bought it.  He said he had a front end welded on by a "professional".  Sounded like a fishy story, but the front was decent and the welding job seemed thorough.

The only problem is it was from a 69.  

I also picked up a parts car, so I had about 80% of a car.  It's not and never will be a numbers matching ride, but will make a nice driver.  I don't have the fender tag or build sheet and with the car stripped, I'm not sure what options it had.

When I first got the car I had very little experience welding, but I bought a wire feed welder, trunk floor, outer wheel houses and rear quarters and went to work.

My intent is to replicate the 68 R/T I had in high school (many-many moons ago).  It was a 440, 4 spd, blue, black vinyl roof, stripe delete, power steering, manual brakes and 4.10 gears.  Here's a picture from 1974.


Anyway, I got it all welded in;  not a very good job, but solid.  I replaced the driver's side rocker and didn't get it on correctly; that's when I got discouraged and gave up.

The car then sat in my garage for about 17 years.  Last winter I decided, that at my age, I needed to either "crap or get off the pot"!


So I decided to dig back into it and do it right this time.  So I started at front.  

I started soda blasting it, but found it was more work than it was worth.  Plus I found the inner fender panels had some swiss cheese areas.  Add to that the radiator support was from a 69 and would need changes and I decided to replace all three with new panels.  Less work than blasting.

So, early in January I ordered new AMD sheet metal.

A few more pics after soda blasting:



Notice the white powder everywhere.  What a mess.


I've made a fair amount of progress on the front and I'll post more as I time permits.

Tom68

I started on the right side.  I figured if I replaced one panel at a time I can make sure everything is in the correct place.  I took a ton of measurements as well.

Right inner fender removed:


Needed to patch the sheet metal piece that's between the firewall and the panel:


Here's the panel welded and cleaned up:


On to the right fender panel.

gorum


Lennard

Great job, get that beauty back on the road again!  :2thumbs:

Tom68

Thanks.  Its gonna be a while.  There's not an inch of her that doesn't need work.

Lennard

Quote from: Tom68 on March 16, 2016, 04:09:20 PM
Thanks.  Its gonna be a while.  There's not an inch of her that doesn't need work.
Quality takes time. If you do it right the first time,  you'll never have to touch it again. :drive:

Tom68


cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

keepat

Nice work! Keep the pictures coming
Pat

VegasCharger

Great story, thanks for sharing :2thumbs:

Also welcome aboard DC.com :cheers:

68s are the best, will be following this thread.

nvrbdn

70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Tom68

Thanks for the welcome, but I've been around a few years.  Just haven't posted much. 

When I first stumbled on this site I was actually thinking of selling the car.  A co-worker kept bugging me to sell it to him and I had posted asking about its value.  Man am I glad that temporary insanity passed. 

I sold my first 68 in about 1979 and have regretted it ever since.imagine if I bib that twice! :slap:

darbgnik

Quote from: Tom68 on March 16, 2016, 07:01:21 PM
Thanks for the welcome, but I've been around a few years.  Just haven't posted much. 

When I first stumbled on this site I was actually thinking of selling the car.  A co-worker kept bugging me to sell it to him and I had posted asking about its value.  Man am I glad that temporary insanity passed. 

I sold my first 68 in about 1979 and have regretted it ever since.imagine if I bib that twice! :slap:

Haha, almost exactly 10 years ago you considered selling it here.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

nvrbdn

You are correct. I can see me selling a lot of things I own, but just can't see selling the charger. Will enjoy following this build. :2thumbs:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Tom68

I'm not sure what they're called, but the brace that goes from the upper control arm housing to the underside of the inner fender was pretty rusty.  You can see it in one of my earlier pics.  I sanded and wire brushed it with a 4.5" angle grinder the best I could.  It cleaned up fairly well but there was a some pitting and discoloration. 

I sprayed it with a rattle can etching epoxy and top coated it with a "gray detail" paint from Eastwood.  Unfortunately, I don't have any pics of it cleaned up; only once its been painted.  The copper colored paint is SEM weld thru primer with copper.


crj1968

Bringing it back to life!!

You'll need a vanity plate:  LAZRUS   

Tom68

"On to the right fender panel."  Oops, I meant left.   :o

Here's the starting point:


Inner fender removed:


Prepped and ready to weld the new one in:


In process:


And its in:


tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Tom68

A couple of updates.  First I stripped the firewall:





The engine bay is ready for primer.  I just need some warm weather.

So, while I wait I decided to start the next major task, replacing the roof skin.

Tom68

The roof skin came off a lot easier than I expected. 

Here's the starting point.  You can see it had a vinyl roof.  A lot of the roof is still decent, but unfortunately a lot was not:






And its off!





Just need to order a new skin, but they're out of stock at AMD.  Well, still needs lots of clean up before I can install it anyway.

darbgnik

Wow, you and that spot weld cutter are close friends now! The roof didn't look that bad in that picture. But I'm sure there was a lot I couldn't see.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

Tom68

Yep, getting pretty tired of drilling out spot welds.

The roof wasn't really bad.  I debated trying to patch it up, but there was a fair amount of rust that was painted over.  The surface on a good 50% of it was pretty well "textured" from the rust.

I was afraid that if I just patched and put filler over it, that eventually ripples would be noticed under the vinyl top.

charger chris

 :popcrn: nice work. Lookin good. What is the copper Color stuff and  dose it help when when wielding?
i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

1969 charger Daytona clone
1969 charger sadly stolen
1970 charger rt
1972 road runner clone

hemi68charger

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Tom68

Quote from: charger chris on April 06, 2016, 08:36:06 AM
:popcrn: nice work. Lookin good. What is the copper Color stuff and  dose it help when when wielding?

Its a copper based weld-thru primer.  The idea is so that you don't have just bare metal between a lap joint.  There's lots of discussion about it all over the net.  This is my first time using it.  My experience is that it makes welding a little tougher, so now I spray the entire lap seam then sand it out of the plug weld areas.

It does seem to adhere pretty good after welding.  Seems like it gets baked on from the heat.

Next time I do it, I'll try to take some step by step close pictures.

68pplcharger

Quote from: Tom68 on March 16, 2016, 04:09:20 PM
Thanks.  Its gonna be a while.  There's not an inch of her that doesn't need work.

As previously stated by other members it takes time to do it right. My 68 was in about that shape and has taken six years total to bring it back to life. Could take off about 3 years for all the custom work, but still takes a lot of time when only working on it a few hours a week. It's well worth the wait and money spent to get the car you want. Looking great so far... :cheers:

Tom68

Haven't updated in a while, but I have been working on it.  I've got the engine bay and roof frame primed with epoxy.

here's a few shots:











Started working on removing the LH rear quarter.  Pics on that once I make a little progress.

keepat

Very nice! A lot of work to get it to look that nice in primer, great job!
Pat

daveco

R/Tree

Lennard

Looking good!  Slowly but surely it's coming together. :2thumbs:

68pplcharger


Charger_Fan

You're being meticulous, and it shows. Your Charger is going to turn out awesome, I just know it! :2thumbs:

What is the blue car sharing the garage?

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Tom68

68 Mustang.  Shhh, I don't want to get tared and feathered here!   :o

Its a street car that I drag race regularly.  It runs 11.75 @ 115mph in the quarter.