426 Hemi powered Mustang

[TruckDriver]

Not my photos and I do not know how old they are. Came across these in a Facebook group. Not something you see or hear about a lot. Back in the late 1970's, I do remember a green Hemi powered Gremlin locally.

[ACUDANUT]

Looks like a 1950's 392 Hemi. 

[72Charger72]

I had a buddy years ago that loved putting mopar motors in Ford mustangs...think it was the shock factor!

[John_Kunkel]

Looks like a 1950's 392 Hemi. 

Not with the distributor in front.

[Lennard]

Even Ford guys can't resist. 

[RallyeMike]

I cant believe that fit without serious modification to the shock towers. Those engine bays are small.

[Charger_Fan]

I cant believe that fit without serious modification to the shock towers. Those engine bays are small.

Actually, those shock towers have been moved outward quite a bit. Looks like at least 6-7" each side. I don't have a good engine bay example of a '68 at the moment, but here's a '69, which is practically the same, where shock towers are concerned.

[68X426]

moved outward quite a bit. Looks like at least 6-7" each side.

Indeed.  Look at the original pic and the fenders have been cut up and rebuilt for the relocation.  Good eyes you got.

Seems like a lot of effort when then could have used a Ford BB.  Someone loved their Hemi. And then abandoned it.  Go figure.

[Mike DC]

              
1.  Start with an early Mustang, a car with shock towers inadequate for a 302 smallblock in normal usage.  

2.  Cut up the towers severely for motor clearance.  

3.  Swap in an old iron-headed 426 Hemi/trans that weighs about 1000 lbs.

[68X426]

Looks like the window took a couple of bullets from a pissed mechanic. 

[Patronus]

Did Ford not have their own hemi?
Am I crazy?
I think I remember seeing bb ford with the wires running into the valve covers, on some drag motors?

[dual fours]

 The Boss 429s had plug wires through the valve covers.

[A383Wing]

and they had to do some shock tower mods to get that engine in there as well

[72Charger72]

I cant believe that fit without serious modification to the shock towers. Those engine bays are small.

He liked 71-73 Mach 1's a lot more room in there and I remember him having to weld in the motor mounts.

[72Charger72]

Did Ford not have their own hemi?
Am I crazy?
I think I remember seeing bb ford with the wires running into the valve covers, on some drag motors?

They had the BB 427 428 and 429...429 was the HEMI...

[Drache]

Did Ford not have their own hemi?
Am I crazy?
I think I remember seeing bb ford with the wires running into the valve covers, on some drag motors?

They had the BB 427 428 and 429...429 was the HEMI...

The 427 SOHC was the Ford's version of the Hemi (which was banned from Nascar.) This engine supposedly produced a lot more horsepower than the mopar 426 hemi. Later Ford designed the Boss 429 which is a "semi-hemi". Ford called it a "Crescent" combustion chamber.

[Mike DC]

I recall hearing that the SOHC Ford had something like a 7ft long timing chain.  Normal slack/stretch added up to several degrees timing difference from side to side.  Some drag racers converted them to gear drives because it was such a PITA. 


The story has leaked in recent years that Mopar's threatened DOHC Hemi was a hoax.  The Hemi engineers mocked it up with electric motors in the heads to make it appear to work in front of NASCAR's people.

[72Charger72]

found this explanation and kindof describes the 7ft chain..
....
The 427 was the pinnacle or Ford's racing success throughout 60's from NASCAR to LeMans.

It all started with the 352 in 1958 (that's why most all FE's have a 352 cast in). The 352 High Perf came in 1960 at 360 hp. Then in 1961 it became the 390 with a high perf version of 401 hp and three 2V carbs. In 1962 the 406 debuted and was rated at 405 hp and increased torque over the 390. All of these were special blocks cast with beefed up main webbing and not drilled for hydraulic lifters. Mid 1963 brought the 427 rated at 410 hp with 1 4v carb and 425 hp with 2 4v carbs. This was it's own special casting with large 4.23 bores. There were several versions of it's reciprocating mass meant for different racing applications. Late 406's and all 427 have cross bolted main caps for racing durability. The center oiling galley used in all FE engines proved inadequate for racing endurance. So, in 1965 the 427 block was a new casting with the main bearing oil gallery on the side. This gave the mains priority in the oiling system and greatly increased the 427's ruggedness. There were several different head and intake designs.

It is this version of the 427 that clenched NASCAR championships and the 24 Hours du LeMans four years in a row 1966-1969. That is why you hear so much about this engine. Sadly, they were expensive to make and thus to buy. Limited quantities were made and many of them were consumed by racing. Which today makes them rare and very expensive.
The was one more version. The 427 Single Overhead Cam. This engine used a long chain to drive a cam in each head and produced over 600 hp. It was very rare and used mainly in drag racing as NASCAR banned them.

You don't see very many 427 Galaxies due to the engine's cost and the fact that it wasn't very streetable. That is it was built for all out top end performance which made it a poor daily driver. That's how the 428 came about. It too is very powerful, but designed to make low end torque. That made it the perfect street beast. 428's aren't as common as 390's but can be bought or even made out of some 390 blocks.

[Patronus]

My pops had a 427 Galaxy. 'Cept he worked for AMC. This was back in the days of auto wars/gas/etc.
Someone put sugar in his gas and that was the end of the Galaxy.

[ACUDANUT]

Off topic, but I took apart a Ford V-10.  It was at least 7 foot of chain driving everything.

[Drache]

Someone put sugar in his gas and that was the end of the Galaxy.

Are you sure it was sugar? I've tried the sugar trick in multiple vehicles to see if it works. I found the same solution as Mythbusters, doesn't do a single thing.

[tan top]

 the hemi with those small air cleaner/fliters , reminds me of a feature in a mopar mag years ago , where a guy put a hemi & a four speed out of a wrecked 67 satellite , in a late 40s or 50s dodge truck , back in the day !

[RCCDrew]

This was the best way to make a Mustang fast.
I remember seeing a 440 powered 69 Camaro on the net.

[Drache]

Another Hemi powered 'stang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju3X1QWmOAc

[72Charger72]

Another Hemi powered 'stang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju3X1QWmOAc

But in the video it seems to be running like a Ford?