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Hemi 4 Speed Bird on the Bay

Started by rob-dirt, February 22, 2016, 03:55:33 PM

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Redbird

Hagerty puts the following values on a Hemi Superbird.

#1   371K
#2   315K
#3   233K
#4   192K

They put a 10% bump on top of this for a 4spd.

I really have no idea if their values are accurate or not. They are after all trying to get people to insure their cars for as much as possible. However, they also need to have some type of credibility as a source. FWIW

F8-4life

Horrible auction description, plus bad pictures and representation. Yea, I really needed to see a shot of the car under a car cover??

wingcarenvy

Quote from: Redbird on February 25, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Hagerty puts the following values on a Hemi Superbird.

#1   371K
#2   315K
#3   233K
#4   192K

They put a 10% bump on top of this for a 4spd.

I really have no idea if their values are accurate or not. They are after all trying to get people to insure their cars for as much as possible. However, they also need to have some type of credibility as a source. FWIW

I believe Hagerty gets their estimates by averaging what ones have sold at public auction.

Aero426

Heard the other day that when the current seller bought the car, he had the Hemi gone through by four time USAC stock car champion Butch Hartman.     Butch was from the same town as the seller.

ws23rt

Quote from: wingcarenvy on February 27, 2016, 12:57:35 AM
Quote from: Redbird on February 25, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Hagerty puts the following values on a Hemi Superbird.

#1   371K
#2   315K
#3   233K
#4   192K

They put a 10% bump on top of this for a 4spd.

I really have no idea if their values are accurate or not. They are after all trying to get people to insure their cars for as much as possible. However, they also need to have some type of credibility as a source. FWIW

I believe Hagerty gets their estimates by averaging what ones have sold at public auction.


:2thumbs:  Hagerty lives in the same world as the rest of us and the everlasting question of "what's it worth" is the same for them as the rest of us.
Value is a moving target that will never be pinned down. :Twocents:

rob-dirt

 :2thumbs:     Wow sold for 333,766.66    :cheers:

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66FBCharger

Quote from: rob-dirt on March 05, 2016, 12:19:33 AM
:2thumbs:     Wow sold for 333,766.66    :cheers:
Wow! That is great for the seller.
'69 Charger R/T 440 4 speed T5, '70 Road Runner 440+6 4 speed, '73 'Cuda 340 4 speed, '66 Charger 383 Auto
SOLD!:'69 Charger R/T S.E. 440 4 speed 3.54 Dana rolling body

TheAutoArchaeologist

Complete BS.  The guy sold the car before the auction.  Didn't know how to end the auction, so cancelled everyones bids.  But the sniping programs kicked in and it went to 333k.  But the owner will not sell it to the guy that won the auction.  Take a look at the feedback.

"SELLER BACKED OUT OF THE DEAL. DO NOT TRUST THIS SELLER Plymouth: superbird super bird (#281942180545)"

Aero426

The car was reportedly sold offline for MORE than the end of auction amount. 

While it is unfortunate that the seller may not have understood the need to end the auction early, the final bid is still non-binding.   It's not a deal until the money changes hands.   Translation: that's racin'.

Redbird

Not being an e-bay expert seller, is it hard to cancel an auction towards the end of the auction run?

Also did the seller put the note in the questions line saying it was sold before the auction ended?

Not being a party one way or another here, just trying to understand the process better.

I do think it is a nice car. I guess the tires held air for at least 5 minutes, as if that would hold the price back.


Aero426

Quote from: Redbird on March 10, 2016, 10:35:50 AM
Not being an e-bay expert seller, is it hard to cancel an auction towards the end of the auction run?

Also did the seller put the note in the questions line saying it was sold before the auction ended?

No, it isn't hard to end it early.    Being that he has only three feedbacks left since 2010 and two of those are as a buyer, it's pretty safe to say the seller is inexperienced.    I also understand there was a death in the immediate family.   So that certainly may have played a role.    I am sure it was a disappointment for the high bidder.    Other than leaving the negative feedback, I don't think there is much else he could do.     


70Sbird

Does anyone have a feeling (or a true number) for what the car sold for?
Just curious, As said before it certainly has all of the correct boxes checked: Hemi, 4 speed, buckets, good color, long term owner and a history. Yes it needs work and is not restored but if it truly went for something in the $350K range or more that is setting the bar pretty high for a Plymouth!

Scott Faulkner

Aero426

Quote from: 70Sbird on March 10, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
Does anyone have a feeling (or a true number) for what the car sold for?


No, we do not know.    Just that it was for something more than the final bid.     Either way, I figure that anything that starts with a 3 is pretty dang strong. 

Beep Beep Dave

Man you guys are a tough crowd, would you rather have the car presented by one of those Musclecar Dealership or flippers who in efforts to maximise profits they probably would have destroyed even more originality on the car. I know if I was in the market or more accurately had the $$$ I would have been down there to see the car in person as soon as possible and if it checked out would have been trying hard to buy it.

That car rings pretty much al the bells for me and it would be a huge bonus to be buying it from the guy who had owned it since 1972. Sometimes you can't put a price on first hand history. If I was buying the car I'd be asking the owner if it would be ok to video tape him as he told me about the car.

Awesome car :2thumbs:

Dave   
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


GOTWING

how much of a percentage would you think that it would ad for a 4 speed w/ console am/fm and power windows in a superbird ?  :popcrn:

Aero426

Quote from: GOTWING on March 10, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
how much of a percentage would you think that it would ad for a 4 speed w/ console am/fm and power windows in a superbird ?  :popcrn:

What color?   Those certainly are rare options.    Does such a car exist?

pettybird

Quote from: Aero426 on March 10, 2016, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: GOTWING on March 10, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
how much of a percentage would you think that it would ad for a 4 speed w/ console am/fm and power windows in a superbird ?  :popcrn:

What color?   Those certainly are rare options.    Does such a car exist?

closest would be Smith Stokes' auto car...

pettybird

Don't everyone line up to shoot me but if it went for less than 400k it was a deal.  One owner Hemi 4 speed car, add $150k for a lights out restoration, sell again for $600+k. 


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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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