Oil test data & my experience with Oil Extreme additive

[Trulyvintage]

I am on the road just about every day.

I drive an F350 CC Dually w/ a 7.3 PSD & a manual ZF five speed tranny - usually I am towing 10,000 pounds.

I have tried oil additives over the years along with several brands and oil weight combinations.

Recently I ran across independent oil testing data performed & published by an individual:

@ https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/

Although lengthy & arduous it was fascinating to read.

The oil additive that consistently seemed to have proven measured results was Oil Extreme:

@ http://www.oilextreme.com/oil1.html

I called & talked with the owner Dan - then ordered a 16 ounce bottle.

For my truck I chose this oil from the test data link above:


113. 5W40 MOBIL 1 TURBO DIESEL TRUCK synthetic, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4 and ACEA E7 = 74,312 psi
zinc = 1211 ppm
phos = 1168 ppm
moly = 2 ppm

I have been running Mobil 1 synthetic oil filters since they came out a couple years ago.

My engine takes 15 quarts so I added the recommended 15 ounces.

Then I drove a few hundred miles ....

I noticed an immediate gain in horsepower - fuel economy - performance.

I will be adding Oil Extreme to my ZF manual transmission & my 4:10 rear differential.


Jim

[Lennard]

And how much does the owner pays you to advertise here? 

[Trulyvintage]

And how much does the owner pays you to advertise here? 

Nothing ...

This is an American small business that sells a product that seems to actually perform as advertised ... 

My post is merely informative .... 


Jim

[lukedukem]

i too run Mobile 1 filters on my cummins. i would run oil samples every oil change too, from Blackstone labs. but i never used any additive in the engine oil. just the fuel tank. although I'm selling my truck now, i will pass this along to my brother who drives a power-stroke, thanks for the info. good read

Luke

[cdr]

i use it in my 512, it is supposed to help flat tappet cams live,, time will tell.

[Charger_Fan]

Dang, that stuff is not cheap!
Even the damn t-shirt is not cheap.

[Aero426]

Purchase the correct oil for your application.  You don't need to play chemist.  Those particular Mobil 1 specs should be plenty good for a diesel by itself.

[John_Kunkel]

Then I drove a few hundred miles ....

I noticed an immediate gain in horsepower - fuel economy - performance.

Uh-huh. Actual numbers would be more convincing, especially in the horsepower/performance gain.

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Interesting.... he's posting the exact same thing on multiple forums. 

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2013797/oil-test-data-my-expereience-with-oil-extreme-additive.html#Post2013797

Ryan

[Trulyvintage]

Interesting.... he's posting the exact same thing on multiple forums.  

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2013797/oil-test-data-my-expereience-with-oil-extreme-additive.html#Post2013797

Ryan

I have been on Moparts since 2008 ...

I have been a Sponsor since 2011 ...

I ran across a product that worked as advertised - I belong to many forums - I am sharing what I have learned ...

No ulterior motives - no infomercial - no compensation coming my way by posting ....

Sometimes things are as they appear to be ....



Jim

[ws23rt]

I drive a company truck (chev pu v6) and put many miles on it. The oil gets changed every 3k miles as a routine.
I laugh at myself every time I drive it from an oil change---It feels so smooth and peppy

I laugh because I know that if the oil was changed in secret I would not feel a thing.

Even back in the day I used "STP" for smoking cars and was convinced I could also feel the difference in the seat the pants.

The additives used to make the oil all it can be show their worth in the life of the engine.  What we feel driving that engine is called the "placebo affect"

That reminds me of -----   A woman came into a health food/drug store and asked for some placebo supplements. She said that she sees it as an ingredient in some things and always liked what it did for her.   If something works for us life is better because of it and their are plenty of those that want to help us out with that.

[cdr]

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[Trulyvintage]

I drive a company truck (chev pu v6) and put many miles on it. The oil gets changed every 3k miles as a routine.
I laugh at myself every time I drive it from an oil change---It feels so smooth and peppy

I laugh because I know that if the oil was changed in secret I would not feel a thing.

Even back in the day I used "STP" for smoking cars and was convinced I could also feel the difference in the seat the pants.

The additives used to make the oil all it can be show their worth in the life of the engine.  What we feel driving that engine is called the "placebo affect"

That reminds me of -----   A woman came into a health food/drug store and asked for some placebo supplements. She said that she sees it as an ingredient in some things and always liked what it did for her.   If something works for us life is better because of it and their are plenty of those that want to help us out with that.

Well I own the company truck ...

I drive it hundreds of miles just about every day ...

I also do most of the maintenance & repair.

A truck lasts me 2 to 3 years on average.

It is in my best interest to try & extend the useful life of the engine - tranny - differential.

" Placebo Effect " does not exist in the real world I drive in every day ... 


Jim

[ws23rt]

I drive a company truck (chev pu v6) and put many miles on it. The oil gets changed every 3k miles as a routine.
I laugh at myself every time I drive it from an oil change---It feels so smooth and peppy

I laugh because I know that if the oil was changed in secret I would not feel a thing.

Even back in the day I used "STP" for smoking cars and was convinced I could also feel the difference in the seat the pants.

The additives used to make the oil all it can be show their worth in the life of the engine.  What we feel driving that engine is called the "placebo affect"

That reminds me of -----   A woman came into a health food/drug store and asked for some placebo supplements. She said that she sees it as an ingredient in some things and always liked what it did for her.   If something works for us life is better because of it and their are plenty of those that want to help us out with that.

Well I own the company truck ...

I drive it hundreds of miles just about every day ...

I also do most of the maintenance & repair.

A truck lasts me 2 to 3 years on average.

It is in my best interest to try & extend the useful life of the engine - tranny - differential.

" Placebo Effect " does not exist in the real world I drive in every day ...  


Jim

Hey Jim
My response to your post was -only- about your mention about "immediate gain in horsepower-fuel economy-performance" that you said you "noticed"

BTW the placebo affect is real and we all feel it all the time. It is human nature to expect to be rewarded for an effort or decision we make.
To deny being affected by the "placebo affect" is a primary identification of the affect.

[A383Wing]

so is the "Butt-O-Meter" the recognized standard for snake oil products now?

[ws23rt]

so is the "Butt-O-Meter" the recognized standard for snake oil products now?

My point is that if an affect is felt --it is not necessarily a bad thing.---Life moves on and the buyer as well as the seller are happy.

We have been living for thousands of years with misunderstandings about reality. If we die with a smile that is a good thing.

[Trulyvintage]

Since Oil Extreme added:

1 mpg increase (10% since I was getting 10 mpg)

5 mph increase on level grade towing 10K at 2100 rpm

No placebo effect - actual results


Jim

[FanboySansCharger]

Since Oil Extreme added:

1 mpg increase (10% since I was getting 10 mpg)

5 mph increase on level grade towing 10K at 2100 rpm

No placebo effect - actual results


Jim

Excuse me, folks....8 year lurker here, but this post actually motivated me to join.  I couldn't sit on my hands.

I don't care if it's the difference between 3 and 4 mpg or 99 and 100 mpg; 1 mpg is negligible.  You can get a bigger difference than that from variable throttle positioning and the direction the wind happens to be blowing.  This isn't even remotely evidence.

5 mph gain at the same rpm in the same gear?  Unless you swapped tires, transmissions, or gears in your differential... or replaced a slipping clutch...then this is bogus as heck.  You're talking about a mechanical system with 100% lockup from end to end.  Increased lubricity did not magically make your gearing taller.  You may have gotten to speed faster due to less parasitic loss, but you're not defeating the laws of space and time here.

You're right, no placebo effect at all; just denial. 

Oh, and hi folks.  Nice to finally join the forum. 

[ws23rt]

^^^^  

Welcome to the site Fanboy-- and thanks for your clear reality/fact check.

[A383Wing]

Since Oil Extreme added:

1 mpg increase (10% since I was getting 10 mpg)

5 mph increase on level grade towing 10K at 2100 rpm

No placebo effect - actual results


Jim

I don't see any of this happening as being true and factual results

[John_Kunkel]

Since Oil Extreme added:

1 mpg increase (10% since I was getting 10 mpg)

5 mph increase on level grade towing 10K at 2100 rpm

No placebo effect - actual results


Jim

YouTube is full of similar hillbilly "tests". When you get the same results under approved laboratory conditions come back and post the certified results.

[Trulyvintage]

Since Oil Extreme added:

1 mpg increase (10% since I was getting 10 mpg)

5 mph increase on level grade towing 10K at 2100 rpm

No placebo effect - actual results


Jim

Excuse me, folks....8 year lurker here, but this post actually motivated me to join.  I couldn't sit on my hands.

I don't care if it's the difference between 3 and 4 mpg or 99 and 100 mpg; 1 mpg is negligible.  You can get a bigger difference than that from variable throttle positioning and the direction the wind happens to be blowing.  This isn't even remotely evidence.

5 mph gain at the same rpm in the same gear?  Unless you swapped tires, transmissions, or gears in your differential... or replaced a slipping clutch...then this is bogus as heck.  You're talking about a mechanical system with 100% lockup from end to end.  Increased lubricity did not magically make your gearing taller.  You may have gotten to speed faster due to less parasitic loss, but you're not defeating the laws of space and time here.

You're right, no placebo effect at all; just denial. 

Oh, and hi folks.  Nice to finally join the forum. 

Nice first post ...

Since you do not drive my truck ....

Sorry but you do not know WTH you are talking about .... 


Jim

[Trulyvintage]

All companies started out small ...

Some grew - some remain small.

Negativity - Cynycism - Sarcasm are free ...

Education has to be acquired.


Jim

[FanboySansCharger]

Nice first post ...

Since you do not drive my truck ....

Sorry but you do not know WTH you are talking about .... 


Jim

I'm sorry bud, but any freshman mechanical engineer could tell you your claims don't add up.  Especially the speed increase at a steady RPM--if you're legitimately seeing that, then there's a failure in a system somewhere, whether it's your speedo or in the electronics or somewhere else.  There was no gearing change, so this isn't physically possible.

[Trulyvintage]

Nice first post ...

Since you do not drive my truck ....

Sorry but you do not know WTH you are talking about ....  


Jim

I'm sorry bud, but any freshman mechanical engineer could tell you your claims don't add up.  Especially the speed increase at a steady RPM--if you're legitimately seeing that, then there's a failure in a system somewhere, whether it's your speedo or in the electronics or somewhere else.  There was no gearing change, so this isn't physically possible.

" A fourth way to improve acceleration is by increasing the torque output of the engine. Increasing the horsepower of the engine without increasing the speed at which it runs requires increasing the torque output. Increasing engine torque will always improve the acceleration of the vehicle because that increased torque flows through the driveline to where it increases the torque to the wheels. "

From @ http://www.rubydist.com/Family/Power.html

My personal firsthand experience with my truck demonstrates to me a discernible horsepower increase which increases vehicle speed.

Your opinion is just that & nothing more ....  


Jim