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Anybody use a DNA kit from Ancestry dot Com?

Started by oldcarnut, February 11, 2016, 11:20:15 PM

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oldcarnut

I've been working on the family tree some and ordered two of the DNA kits for me and the wife.  Anyone else done this and how did it work out for you?

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Hopefully you don't find out that she's your long lost cousin!!!  :lol:
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oldcarnut

Well to be truthful,  I have already found out there have been quite a few cousin inter marriages in the past  :eek2:   Pretty surprising things you can find on that search stuff.  Some you wish you hadn't found  :pity:

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Uh..... you know they are just gathering this to create your dopplegangers right? You'll be replaced within 6 months.
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I heard a stat somewhere that 29 states now collect DNA on all arrests.  

There is already a precedent that courts can convict people using DNA gathered even after consent was denied (and no arrest was made).  

Basically, we have no right to keep our DNA secret.

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 so a future "bank" for law enforcement DNA matching  :scratchchin:


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oldcarnut

Quote from: polywideblock on February 12, 2016, 01:22:17 AM
so a future "bank" for law enforcement DNA matching  :scratchchin:
Before I ordered the kits I asked what the privacy was and who all would have access, specifically law enforcement, feds, and health insurances.  Nobody outside Ancestry would have access to it I was assured. I have no worries on any of it as the Fed already has my prints and secret clearance checks.  I haven't been involved in anything that law would want my DNA for.  On that note, I recently found a cooler of stolen items from a storage lot and called it in.  They wanted to take a swab to clear my DNA from anything they found on the cooler.  Wasn't too happy to do that but ended up not having to do it anyway as it was a cooler that they soon discovered had already been processed and re-stolen from the cops while they were getting other things from the RV/boat storage lot it was originally taken from.  Kinda embarrassing for them to admit that.  Ancestry told me that later on they would have more options avail for tree search stuff that would need the DNA check to use it with one being medical health traits passed on through though the genes.  It would be anonymously be used and was an opt out choice.  That was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment.

Mike DC

QuoteThat was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment

This.

DNA goes beyond a fingerprint.


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Quote from: RallyeMike on February 12, 2016, 12:50:21 AM
Uh..... you know they are just gathering this to create your dopplegangers right? You'll be replaced within 6 months.

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I wonder what percentage of these test expose mom's or grandma's extramarital affairs?

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This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.
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I think I will send in a sample from my dog. It will be interesting to see the DNA testing results.
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Quote from: oldcarnut on February 12, 2016, 11:34:32 AM
That was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment.

On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.

oldcarnut

 :smilielol:
Quote from: HPP on February 13, 2016, 03:54:37 PM


On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.
Yes that is one of the primary benefits of doing it through them in history plus discovering descendant origins. 

Mike DC

QuoteThis is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant. 

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I ordered the family finder kit. DNA can only tell you so much. The Ancestry.com paper trail helps complete the picture.  I've found relatives through the DNA match I didn't know I had, but were connected via Family Tree. This can help with family documentation and such. So, I think it's worth it, if you're into family research and history. It's kinda like a treasure hunt to me. You never know what you'll find.......
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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 13, 2016, 04:54:06 PM
QuoteThis is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant. 

Nope, do they have yours?
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Quote from: oldcarnut on February 13, 2016, 04:52:23 PM
:smilielol:
Quote from: HPP on February 13, 2016, 03:54:37 PM


On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.
Yes that is one of the primary benefits of doing it through them in history plus discovering descendant origins. 

Much like law enforcement taking all the DNA results from Ancestry for their own purposes, eh?

Mike DC

 
QuoteNope, do they have yours?


http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning.  


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost.  


Mopar Nut

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 16, 2016, 11:51:20 AM
 
QuoteNope, do they have yours?


http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning.  


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost.  


If you never get arrested, they can not collect DNA.
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Quote from: Mopar Nut on February 16, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on February 16, 2016, 11:51:20 AM
 
QuoteNope, do they have yours?


http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning. 


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost. 


If you never get arrested, they can not collect DNA.
He said it was NOT during an arrest. :shruggy:

Troy
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My wife is into the genealogy / family tree stuff so she got us the kit from 23andMe a few months ago. There was some sort of "2 for 1" deal - but it was still like $200.

Pretty interesting stuff, esp. when it comes to figuring out your ethnic background (apparently im like 2% Ashkenazi).  :shruggy:
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