Anybody use a DNA kit from Ancestry dot Com?

[oldcarnut]

I've been working on the family tree some and ordered two of the DNA kits for me and the wife.  Anyone else done this and how did it work out for you?

[birdsandbees]

Hopefully you don't find out that she's your long lost cousin!!! 

[oldcarnut]

Well to be truthful,  I have already found out there have been quite a few cousin inter marriages in the past     Pretty surprising things you can find on that search stuff.  Some you wish you hadn't found  

[RallyeMike]

Uh..... you know they are just gathering this to create your dopplegangers right? You'll be replaced within 6 months.

[Mike DC]

  
I heard a stat somewhere that 29 states now collect DNA on all arrests.  

There is already a precedent that courts can convict people using DNA gathered even after consent was denied (and no arrest was made).  

Basically, we have no right to keep our DNA secret.

[polywideblock]

 so a future "bank" for law enforcement DNA matching 

[JB400]

It's the same as a fingerprint.

[oldcarnut]

so a future "bank" for law enforcement DNA matching 

Before I ordered the kits I asked what the privacy was and who all would have access, specifically law enforcement, feds, and health insurances.  Nobody outside Ancestry would have access to it I was assured. I have no worries on any of it as the Fed already has my prints and secret clearance checks.  I haven't been involved in anything that law would want my DNA for.  On that note, I recently found a cooler of stolen items from a storage lot and called it in.  They wanted to take a swab to clear my DNA from anything they found on the cooler.  Wasn't too happy to do that but ended up not having to do it anyway as it was a cooler that they soon discovered had already been processed and re-stolen from the cops while they were getting other things from the RV/boat storage lot it was originally taken from.  Kinda embarrassing for them to admit that.  Ancestry told me that later on they would have more options avail for tree search stuff that would need the DNA check to use it with one being medical health traits passed on through though the genes.  It would be anonymously be used and was an opt out choice.  That was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment.

[Mike DC]

That was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment

This.

DNA goes beyond a fingerprint.

[tan top]

Uh..... you know they are just gathering this to create your dopplegangers right? You'll be replaced within 6 months.

 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBoMEKL7HFc

[stripedelete]

I wonder what percentage of these test expose mom's or grandma's extramarital affairs?

[Mopar Nut]

This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

[DeltaV]

I think I will send in a sample from my dog. It will be interesting to see the DNA testing results.

[HPP]

That was a flag for me as I could see the health insurance industry and gov wanting that to base premiums on for risk assessment.

On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.

[oldcarnut]

 

On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.

Yes that is one of the primary benefits of doing it through them in history plus discovering descendant origins. 

[Mike DC]

This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant. 

[DixieRestoParts]

I ordered the family finder kit. DNA can only tell you so much. The Ancestry.com paper trail helps complete the picture.  I've found relatives through the DNA match I didn't know I had, but were connected via Family Tree. This can help with family documentation and such. So, I think it's worth it, if you're into family research and history. It's kinda like a treasure hunt to me. You never know what you'll find.......

[Mytur Binsdirti]

When I looked up my family tree, I found out I was the sap.   

[stripedelete]

At least it wasn't a straight line.

[Mopar Nut]

This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant. 

Nope, do they have yours?

[HPP]

On the flip side, it could give medical professionals preemptive information you need to address any genetic propensity for deadly diseases such as cancer.

Yes that is one of the primary benefits of doing it through them in history plus discovering descendant origins. 

Much like law enforcement taking all the DNA results from Ancestry for their own purposes, eh?

[Mike DC]

 

Nope, do they have yours?

http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning.  


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost.  

[Mopar Nut]

 

Nope, do they have yours?

http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning.  


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost.  

If you never get arrested, they can not collect DNA.

[Troy]

 

Nope, do they have yours?

http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning. 


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost. 

If you never get arrested, they can not collect DNA.

He said it was NOT during an arrest.

Troy

[Ponch ®]

My wife is into the genealogy / family tree stuff so she got us the kit from 23andMe a few months ago. There was some sort of "2 for 1" deal - but it was still like $200.

Pretty interesting stuff, esp. when it comes to figuring out your ethnic background (apparently im like 2% Ashkenazi). 

[ws23rt]

This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant.  

Agree  We leave a cloud/slime of DNA wherever we go. It's almost pointless to expect we can dodge an effort to identify us as needed.
Good luck to those that feel the need to keep their DNA to themselves. However public bathrooms would be much cleaner if we had better control.  

[500Jon]

Great topic and one I didn't expect to find on a car site!

My Dad when he died, to me, was my DAD!
Then Mum tells me, he weren't your Dad.
Well eer yes he was, for 35 years!!!
He died young, God rest his soul...

So he has been gone along time now and my computer always gets 'Ancestry' emails...
I didn't know they did DNA stuff as it never crossed my mind.
But maybe just maybe I could find my 'REAL' fathers family.

I have his surname and not alot else.
He was a POPE or is a POPE, or could have been the POPE, I'm not quite sure???
Anyways he ran away and left my Mum up shite creek without a paddle...
So he not my real Dad,,, the Man who looked after me for 35 years is MY REAL DAD!!!

We don't really need DNA testing, we just need to be faithful to our wives and girlfriends and our partners, and they need to tell us the truth about the randy MILKMAN...
That also works in reverse if you are the Randy Milkman, go home and tell your wife all the names of the desperate housewives you KNOCKED-UP!!!

[DixieRestoParts]

I'll tell you it's kinda like a treasure hunt. In my own family, I had heard our last name wasn't our real last name and we were descended from a Cherokee chief. But no one knew the exact details. I found out tracking paper trails and such that our current last name came about circa 1800 when my GGGGG Grandmother was widowed with 2 boys. Her husband that died was a Revolutionary war veteran from SC. They had since moved to TN and I believe he had been given land as a reward from the war, but I can't prove that just yet. She remarried and those 2 boys took the last name of their adopted dad.  Apparently that was common back then. She had more children with him, then unfortunately he passed away. Her children were taken by the state circa 1815 because she was destitute. They were sent into indentured servitude. Slavery anyone? So, my last name has been my last name since about 1800 or so.

Her grandson, my GGG Grandfather married a Cherokee lady who was indeed descended from a Chief. She and her family probably had some white in them as they escaped the Trail of Tears and managed to stayed in East TN. (Side note, the Cherokee's will not recognize me or my family nor let us join any tribes because they did not get sent to a reservation.) My GGG Grandfather died at Vicksburg from Smallpox leaving behind several children. My GGG Grandmother, left the children with family, remarried and moved west. I won't bore you with anymore of my family history. But, the point is, I found out much of the above through Ancestry.com. You'll be amazed at what you'll find. Now connecting with other people that share your DNA is also cool and you're likely to find out much more or even find people have letters, documents, etc. that you could get copy's of.

[Mopar Nut]

 

Nope, do they have yours?

http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/divided-court-rules-dna-collected-without-consent-can-be-used-against-accused-140904?news=854160

Collected without the guy's knowledge, after they refused permission.  This was not during an arrest, just questioning.  


The collection was ruled admissable in court - precedent set.  Civil right lost.  

If you never get arrested, they can not collect DNA.

He said it was NOT during an arrest.

Troy

I should have said If you never get questioned/in trouble with the law, they can not collect DNA  

I must be a good old man, never been in trouble with the law or questioned. How many here have been questioned by law enforcement for no reason?

This is a good way for uncle sam to get your DNA without a warrant.

They can already take your DNA without a warrant.  

Agree  We leave a cloud/slime of DNA wherever we go. It's almost pointless to expect we can dodge an effort to identify us as needed.
Good luck to those that feel the need to keep their DNA to themselves. However public bathrooms would be much cleaner if we had better control.  

I guess you can write your name and ssn every time you leave a sample?      

Don't forget to leave a picture!

[Mike DC]

I should have said If you never get questioned/in trouble with the law, they can not collect DNA   icon_smile_big

I must be a good old man, never been in trouble with the law or questioned. How many here have been questioned by law enforcement for no reason?

[oldcarnut]

I sent my and the wife's samples in today.  Gonna take 5-6 wks for results and I linked it to my tree.  During the ancestry search stuff I've located a cousin in Arkansas and one in Washington State that I've connected with that have done research stuff too which gave me some very interesting history.  All of us are doing the test along with some of their family.  My mother is from the UK, ( I was born there, ) and Dads family from Jackson, Commerce Ga. I'm pretty curious where the roots are going to go.

[sunfire69]

unless you have been in the military...then your DNA is on file....

[500Jon]

WoW Dixie-resto, what a fantastic story!
The Trail of Tears, that's just so evocative.
This is very recent American History and to be part of it is wonderful!
I hope it works out for you and your long lost family.

I didn't think it mattered, but now just by reading this thread, maybe it is!

There was a guy here in the UK, he was a Moparman too.
He had some real cool cars one being a SuperBird.
I heard he had a famous Dad that he never knew about?
Yep his dad was in one of the most famous UK Rock-bands.
Sadly his father died young and his Mother came back to England to find him.

ALLS WELL THAT ENDS WELL...

Knowing my luck, my REAL-DAD died leaving me with a pile of DEBTS lol...

[Mytur Binsdirti]

[DixieRestoParts]

WoW Dixie-resto, what a fantastic story!
The Trail of Tears, that's just so evocative.
This is very recent American History and to be part of it is wonderful!
I hope it works out for you and your long lost family.

I didn't think it mattered, but now just by reading this thread, maybe it is!

There was a guy here in the UK, he was a Moparman too.
He had some real cool cars one being a SuperBird.
I heard he had a famous Dad that he never knew about?
Yep his dad was in one of the most famous UK Rock-bands.
Sadly his father died young and his Mother came back to England to find him.

ALLS WELL THAT ENDS WELL...

Knowing my luck, my REAL-DAD died leaving me with a pile of DEBTS lol...

Thank you sir!