Would a 999 paint code 70 Charger come out Factory with a Splatter Painted Trunk

[70 sublime]

I have a picture of my grandmothers old 1973 Monaco and it had the splatter trunk paint

[Daytona R/T SE]

My '65 Fury has it.

[Charger_Fan]

It's interesting that it was used on the larger cars, but not B & E bodies. I learned something new today.

Regarding the Charger in this thread, you can see that the spatter paint was shot over body color paint. So I wonder if they did that to help hide welds from sheet metal repair during the resto?

[6bblgt]

"if" that car was worth $XXX then Frank's (member here: Spike) 999 RT/SE Silver car is worth same or more since as I recall the silver was known as the original factory special order paint. He has a great car and the V21 option sets off the silver so well.

Don, you were doing so well until this comment.  WHAT? 
any non-STANDARD (Charger, Dodge b-body) available color would be "special order paint"

[6bblgt]

& it's the Newark, DE plant "F" c-body assembly plant that used spatter paint in the trunks (plant #6 pre-'68)

[new2muscle]

 Some people just live in dream worlds. When I bought mine, the PO said it was a "special order" "special handling" car and had special fender tags to show it. I took all that with a grain of salt, because I KNEW that without a build sheet, anything he told me was speculation only. I am perfectly happy with my base model, non-matching number car. Everything else is just a story.... Interesting, but a story.

As the old saying goes, Buyer Beware......

What was the guy asking for it? (sorry if I missed that somewhere)

[crj1968]

He was asking a trade for something in the ball park of $100K.  Then his buddy chimed in and kept saying it was worth $150K all day long etc..

My 70 500 is the same way- guy owned it a long long time and said it was all original numbers matching etc....but then I said well what about this (radiator support VIN different, wrong color paint here and there.  "Oh yeah, well that....I mean you know...."

Yeah, I know.

[Charger_Fan]

"if" that car was worth $XXX then Frank's (member here: Spike) 999 RT/SE Silver car is worth same or more since as I recall the silver was known as the original factory special order paint. He has a great car and the V21 option sets off the silver so well.

Don, you were doing so well until this comment.  WHAT? 
any non-STANDARD (Charger, Dodge b-body) available color would be "special order paint"

I think Don is saying that Spike (screen name here), 999RT/SE (screen name on the '70 Registry)...he owns a 999 special order paint car, that originally left the factory painted silver. It's still silver, after it's resto.
He didn't mean that all 999 cars were silver.

[crj1968]

So when you ordered 999 was there some list of colors to choose from?

[RJS]

So when you ordered 999 was there some list of colors to choose from?

I remember it as any color that Chrysler had available in all their car line, so let's say this Charger is a Burgundy that was only used on "C" body's so you can get it.

Don't think you could get a Ford or Chevy color but don't know that for sure so please chime in if you know.
Ron

[new2muscle]

"Oh yeah, well that....I mean you know...."

Yeah, I know.

Indeed.   

[RJS]

He was asking a trade for something in the ball park of $100K.  Then his buddy chimed in and kept saying it was worth $150K all day long etc..

My 70 500 is the same way- guy owned it a long long time and said it was all original numbers matching etc....but then I said well what about this (radiator support VIN different, wrong color paint here and there.  "Oh yeah, well that....I mean you know...."

Yeah, I know.

Yes the ad had 100 on the top so someone joked about the $100 and he got a little nasty with that guy in the beginning of the post. Then another said worth 135K 150K and finally 200K and the consensus kept saying how BJ was the place bla bla bla.

Really just wanted to help him understand that he was fed a line. Finally I asked if he believed if the chrome aircleaner and latch-tray were factory too? I didn't even mention the valve covers or wrong stripes on the car. (someone else pointed that out)
His response was a big judge from BJ saw his car in NY and told him the latch- tray was aftermarket (yeah OK where do they sell those for 70 Chargers) and the aircleaner was a Chromed original.

Didn't know Barett Jackson was a Judged Event

[472 R/T SE]

Anyone remember years back there were high end Mopars for sale @ a place in the desert (Arizona?) with a real nice place that had parking for cars inside the house.

That was Bill Weimanns place.  He owned this car & had it on ebay trying to peddle it.


I've seen a 999 State/County mantienance orange in real life twice
999 Silver three times
And haven't seen this one in person but the have the tag.


My fender tags crammed full of options.  This one has a space between Y39 & END.  Then there's Dave, lol.

[Dodge Don]

Did not imply all 999 cars were silver....could theoretically be any paint offered on Chrysler models that year. Although I suppose that might be potentially limited to paint on the models built at the same assembly plant.....example: if you wanted a colour that was not used on any model built at St. Louis where all 70 Chargers were built is it reasonable to expect Chrysler to ship in paint to the plant to paint one car? I wonder.....maybe you ordered and ran the risk of the dealer calling you back and saying that colour not available...you can pick from these other options.....

And I was referring to Spike's 999 car as being better than this one.

[crj1968]

Yes the ad had 100 on the top so someone joked about the $100 and he got a little nasty with that guy in the beginning of the post. Then another said worth 135K 150K and finally 200K and the consensus kept saying how BJ was the place bla bla bla.

Really just wanted to help him understand that he was fed a line. Finally I asked if he believed if the chrome aircleaner and latch-tray were factory too? I didn't even mention the valve covers or wrong stripes on the car. (someone else pointed that out)
His response was a big judge from BJ saw his car in NY and told him the latch- tray was aftermarket (yeah OK where do they sell those for 70 Chargers) and the aircleaner was a Chromed original.

Didn't know Barett Jackson was a Judged Event

Yeah I read all that yesterday between you and him- I felt you and others were just letting him know that "Hey there's a couple things here you may want to look into..."

To his credit, I think he took it all very well and kept cool about it. Maybe he came to realize that the mopar guys might know a little more about this sort of stuff, and he could put it back up later after getting a little more info.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

The owner stated that BX cabled abomination was an alarm system.  I offered to him that yes the DEALER that put said alarm system in more than like added that splatter (over everything including the fill tube) paint.   The factory would never revisit a completed car to add that paint (as witnessed by the body color present under that alarm box)

[RJS]

Yes the ad had 100 on the top so someone joked about the $100 and he got a little nasty with that guy in the beginning of the post. Then another said worth 135K 150K and finally 200K and the consensus kept saying how BJ was the place bla bla bla.

Really just wanted to help him understand that he was fed a line. Finally I asked if he believed if the chrome aircleaner and latch-tray were factory too? I didn't even mention the valve covers or wrong stripes on the car. (someone else pointed that out)
His response was a big judge from BJ saw his car in NY and told him the latch- tray was aftermarket (yeah OK where do they sell those for 70 Chargers) and the aircleaner was a Chromed original.

Didn't know Barett Jackson was a Judged Event

Yeah I read all that yesterday between you and him- I felt you and others were just letting him know that "Hey there's a couple things here you may want to look into..."

To his credit, I think he took it all very well and kept cool about it. Maybe he came to realize that the mopar guys might know a little more about this sort of stuff, and he could put it back up later after getting a little more info.

I have no ill will towards the guy or car, said many times that I like the car. I would just hate to have someone else buy that HYPE along with an inflated price.
The car should sell or trade easily as is but $$$ is being left on the table by not improving underhood area and repainting the trunk area correctly.
Ron

[new2muscle]

An alarm system?

An ALARM system?

Whiskey tango foxtrot.   

[hemi-hampton]

Here's what my book sez about the 999 Special order code. LEON.

[RallyeMike]

I'd still like to hear what the 999 order process actually entailed if anyone knows. For someone as picky as this special order car was, could they have said that they wanted such and such color AND splatter the trunk like my Dad's Imperial? What did the instructions for a 99 paint job look like?

I agree it's highly unlikely, but I don't think the door is 100% closed either. They put a red plaid interior in a blue Demon,.... is the splatter paint available on other Chrysler cars being applied to a Charger really that much of a stretch? It would be interesting to look this car over closely and draw an independent opinion.

[6bblgt]

with a little help from others - I follow Don's silver comment - sorry 'bout that! 

most of the known '70 b-body Special Order Paints Y39/999 are exclusive colors from the '70 c-body line (A4 - "silver metallic", A9 - "dark gray metallic", R8 - "burgundy metallic") - none of which would be a STANDARD available color at St. Louis.

I have a copy of an invoice for an EA9 '70 318 Challenger - MSRP for the "special order paint" was $62.60
early paperwork for the Superbird shows a Suggested Retail for "999 - Corporate Blue" at $69 and change (or close, can't find it right now) that didn't happen, but - WAG the Charger would've been the same money.
Mike Ross' 1970 Fury III "special order paint" FM3 body & EW1 roof shows  $106.55 on the window sticker (minus $23.30 for the two-tone V02) = $83.25

there are cars painted discontinued colors from prior years (FM3 '71 Charger R/T, FM3 '72-'73 Dusters, FC7 '74 'Cuda, etc.) PROOF of the original color can be difficult!
there were also "FLEET colors" that could be purchased on cars.  I don't know of any specific '70 Charger examples but there are '68 "Omaha orange" Chargers (think "safety orange" that you'd see on state/highway/dot vehicles).

the "FLEET" paint program allowed for some creative car ordering (sponsored by Dealer Associations / other) where quantities of 50 or more cars could be ordered with "SPECIAL PAINT" at no additional charge, Bengal Chargers took advantage of this as well as 100s of '68/'69 Road Runners & Barracudas painted "Omaha orange".  I believe the "Playboy pink" '65/'66? Barracudas are also a by-product of this.  My brother has a "Special Order Paint" '73 440 Charger SE (JB9 - "dark blue metallic" again c-body ONLY), that according to the 2nd owner (salesman that sold it new) claims the order was placed with a cop car FLEET order & the paint was no-charge. 

& if you were paying the bill $$$ Chrysler would paint a car your "Corporate Identity" color or a color from another manufacturer (GM, FoMoCo, AMC, etc.).

[hemi-hampton]

I would not be surprised if the 999 cars were sent to Creative Industries to be painted. Chrysler still out sources low production & special order cars today. LEON.

[6bblgt]

I would not be surprised if the 999 cars were sent to Creative Industries to be painted. Chrysler still out sources low production & special order cars today. LEON.

NOT A CHANCE!!  LOGISTICALLY COST PROHIBITIVE

[Alaskan_TA]

999 paints were available across the board, if the paint was commercially available, you could get it. It could be a Ford, Chevy or John Deere color. etc, etc., it did not matter - as long as it was available.

The plants had paint vendors on site & they could mix up small batches on site as needed.

[Alaskan_TA]

More info at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1971/71_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg