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Just picked this one up...I really couldn't help myself. UPDATED 8-29-17

Started by Dans 68, January 28, 2016, 03:53:08 PM

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66FBCharger

'69 Charger R/T 440 4 speed T5, '70 Road Runner 440+6 4 speed, '73 'Cuda 340 4 speed, '66 Charger 383 Auto
SOLD!:'69 Charger R/T S.E. 440 4 speed 3.54 Dana rolling body

Charger-Bodie

Very cool car! Did you ever get the accident damage repaired on the red car?
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

bakerhillpins

Quote from: cdr on January 28, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
LL1  that is AWESOME      :2thumbs:

Damn straight :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:  

Dan,  You lucky bum... :icon_smile_approve: :icon_smile_approve:

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 28, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: bull on January 28, 2016, 08:57:08 PM
Nice! I like all the options. You going with the turquoise?

Yep. And I'm keeping the vinyl off it.

Dan

That's going to look soooooooooooo sweet.  :2thumbs:  To bad it's got black interior. White would have been extra awesome.  :D

Might want to look into the bondo vs leaded quarter to roof seam argument. I recall that non vinyl top cars were leaded, vinyl were bondo.

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Dans 68

Quote from: Charger-Bodie on January 29, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Very cool car! Did you ever get the accident damage repaired on the red car?

Well, there is a back story on that. Short answer, no. This year though.  ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dans 68

Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 29, 2016, 08:47:36 AM
...Might want to look into the bondo vs leaded quarter to roof seam argument. I recall that non vinyl top cars were leaded, vinyl were bondo.


Yeah, I've been thinking about that. But having a welded seam, with a bit of filler versus leaded should not make any difference as that joint should be locked in. I'm open to all arguments on that.

Dan

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 29, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on January 29, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Very cool car! Did you ever get the accident damage repaired on the red car?

Well, there is a back story on that. Short answer, no. This year though.  ;)

Dan


I've wondered that a few times.....
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Dino

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 29, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 29, 2016, 08:47:36 AM
...Might want to look into the bondo vs leaded quarter to roof seam argument. I recall that non vinyl top cars were leaded, vinyl were bondo.


Yeah, I've been thinking about that. But having a welded seam, with a bit of filler versus leaded should not make any difference as that joint should be locked in. I'm open to all arguments on that.

Dan




Here's my two cents on that.  From the factory they used some type of putty that wasn't quite like body filler.  Hence the noticeable seam coming up through the vinyl top after a while.  Modern fillers, especially the metal types, will be as strong if not stronger than leaded seams.  But properly done there is nothing wrong with either.  My suggestion would be to clean up the seam and at the very least lay a weld bead in there to remove any doubt that this will flex.  If you have the skills then I suggest cutting the original seam out altogether, and replacing it with a new piece of formed sheet metal to make a seamless transition.  No need for fillers or lead at all.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Kern Dog

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 28, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: blinkey on January 28, 2016, 08:28:32 PM
   What did you pay for this rat

Isn't that kind of asking how much you make?   :o  ;)  I may say later if people really want to really know. I didn't steal it, but I think I did well for what I got.  :icon_smile_wink:

Dan

Some may get offended by the question but the answer helps others when they are looking to buy. To keep the price a secret seems selfish to me, as if to say
Na, na...Na na...I have it and YOU can't afford it.
That may not be the case but it annoys me when people (Not necessarily the OP) buy a desireable car, chat it up about the condition, options, etc then just say "I got it for a fair price."
I really mean no offense to the OP, just stating an opinion.

Dans 68

Quote from: Kern Dog on January 29, 2016, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 28, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: blinkey on January 28, 2016, 08:28:32 PM
   What did you pay for this rat

Isn't that kind of asking how much you make?   :o  ;)  I may say later if people really want to really know. I didn't steal it, but I think I did well for what I got.  :icon_smile_wink:

Dan

....it annoys me when people (Not necessarily the OP) buy a desireable car, chat it up about the condition, options, etc then just say "I got it for a fair price."
I really mean no offense to the OP, just stating an opinion.

Actually, I said I did well for what I got.   ;)   But to answer your question, I paid $12,000.00. Lots of factors went into that price, so it should not be used to set the market by any means. But I do hope that tidbit helps you and others in your search.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dans 68

Quote from: 6bblgt on January 29, 2016, 01:02:05 AM
...turquoise needs that black vinyl top  :Twocents:

Hmm, I respect your opinion, Dan. I'll look into possibly keeping the vinyl.

Quote from: 6bblgt on January 29, 2016, 01:02:05 AM
'68 Charger was non-HP 383 4bbl (383HP in a b-body was Road Runner & Super Bee ONLY)

NO steel belted tires in '68 - they would've been F70-14 Goodyear SPEEDWAY "white stripe"

Yep, I blame the obviously faulty decoder I used - it was non-Charger specific.  :P

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

tan top

Quote from: Dino on January 29, 2016, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 29, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on January 29, 2016, 08:47:36 AM
...Might want to look into the bondo vs leaded quarter to roof seam argument. I recall that non vinyl top cars were leaded, vinyl were bondo.


Yeah, I've been thinking about that. But having a welded seam, with a bit of filler versus leaded should not make any difference as that joint should be locked in. I'm open to all arguments on that.

Dan




Here's my two cents on that.  From the factory they used some type of putty that wasn't quite like body filler.  Hence the noticeable seam coming up through the vinyl top after a while.  Modern fillers, especially the metal types, will be as strong if not stronger than leaded seams.  But properly done there is nothing wrong with either.  My suggestion would be to clean up the seam and at the very least lay a weld bead in there to remove any doubt that this will flex.  If you have the skills then I suggest cutting the original seam out altogether, and replacing it with a new piece of formed sheet metal to make a seamless transition.  No need for fillers or lead at all.


:yesnod:  what Dino said    , that seem  only has a few spot welds , from the factory ,   I cleaned mine out  , &  migged up the whole seam  , even though I put a vinyl  back on  !!   no more flexing there  :yesnod:
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Kern Dog


viper r/t

Quote from: Kern Dog on January 29, 2016, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 28, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: blinkey on January 28, 2016, 08:28:32 PM
   What did you pay for this rat

Isn't that kind of asking how much you make?   :o  ;)  I may say later if people really want to really know. I didn't steal it, but I think I did well for what I got.  :icon_smile_wink:

Dan


Some may get offended by the question but the answer helps others when they are looking to buy. To keep the price a secret seems selfish to me, as if to say
Na, na...Na na...I have it and YOU can't afford it.
That may not be the case but it annoys me when people (Not necessarily the OP) buy a desireable car, chat it up about the condition, options, etc then just say "I got it for a fair price."
I really mean no offense to the OP, just stating an opinion.

Comes across as sticking your nose in places... :Twocents:

OldGuy

So, is this a new find of the 259 that were produced, or has it already been accounted for in the ones we know of?
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cavemanno1

Wow,another LL1  :drool5: !Mine is LL1 and i will leave the vinyl off.I think that color looks fantastic and mine will have a white bumble bee stripe!
$12k?!Now i don't feel too bad paying 10k for my '68 r/t 4 speed rust bucket.Although yours is in much better condition!

Dans 68

Quote from: OldGuy on January 31, 2016, 06:04:39 PM
So, is this a new find of the 259 that were produced, or has it already been accounted for in the ones we know of?

New one. Makes 77 of the 333 (74 2-bbl, 259 4-bbl) '68 Charger 383 4-speeds that I have seen/have documentation on.  ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

I'd ask you why you bought this but I know the answer because I'd do the same thing if I could. My problem is I only have room for one Charger so rather than quit at one Charger I need to find more room.

Dans 68

 
Quote from: bull on January 31, 2016, 08:22:45 PM
I'd ask you why you bought this but I know the answer because I'd do the same thing if I could. My problem is I only have room for one Charger so rather than quit at one Charger I need to find more room.

:2thumbs:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bakerhillpins

Quote from: Dans 68 on January 31, 2016, 07:18:03 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on January 31, 2016, 06:04:39 PM
So, is this a new find of the 259 that were produced, or has it already been accounted for in the ones we know of?

New one. Makes 77 of the 333 (74 2-bbl, 259 4-bbl) '68 Charger 383 4-speeds that I have seen/have documentation on.  ;)

Dan

IIRC it's one of 6 that is a 68 383 4bbl 4spd with AC!   I was looking hard at these cars back when I was looking for a charger and I think this makes 5 of them that I have seen now. Or is it 4... LOL so much for my memory. I almost bought the maroon one out of SC off ebay and even put a little effort into the QQ1 one from Detroit. I think I sent any info I had to you Dan.  Your find and the one out of the Bruce Cliche VT yard are the 2 recent ones. The one out of VT was a total mess and ended up on ebay after someone pulled it from the yard. I knew about it for a few years and kept thinking about going up to try to pull it but I knew it was in horrible condition I stayed away to keep myself out of the doghouse...




One great wife (Life is good)
14 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi Crew Cab (crap hauler)
69 Dodge Charger R/T, Q5, C6X, V1X, V88  (Life is WAY better)
96' VFR750 (Sweet)
Capt. Lyme Vol. Fire

"Inspiration is for amateurs - the rest of us just show up and get to work." -Chuck Close
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Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

69rtse4spd

Nice find, you would love the black top, really sets that color off. Have a 69 Q5, with black top, look at a few other car Pict's. in that combo.

Dans 68

Quote from: 69rtse4spd on February 04, 2016, 07:53:27 PM
Nice find, you would love the black top, really sets that color off. Have a 69 Q5, with black top, look at a few other car Pict's. in that combo.

You'll be happy to know that I've decided to go with the black vinyl top. Should be gorgeous....  ;)


Here are a few pictures from today. I picked up the parts that I could fit in my truck. More trips to follow. The rear bumper and Ca black plate, and lots of misc items. I took a pic of the trunk lid underside to show off the original color.  :cheers:  I'm liking it more and more.   :yesnod:

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Dans 68

...and 4 more pics I took today.

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

cdr

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wingcarenvy

Great buy there. 383 4 speed Chargers (H code) are a rare duck and in my yes very desirable. I looked at one in Virginia 10 years ago that was a clean original. I say good on you and you did get it for a great price. My buddy had one in high school without A/C, his grandparents bought it new. Today he still owns it and its still one of my favorites. I will dig up a pic when I get home and post it.