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who else thinks the wheels kill this car

Started by cbrestorations, January 22, 2016, 04:00:20 PM

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cbrestorations

220k and it sits at stock ride height with japanese looking wheels...come one, at that price it better have a set of custom $5k deep dish billet wheels slammed down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-500-/221999510755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33b033b4e3:g:TO0AAOSwqrtWnjsQ&item=221999510755

charge69

No way that Charger is worth that kind of money !!  As for your question about the wheels, TERRIBLE and definitely detract from the classic 2nd Gen looks. If it ain't an original Hemicar with the original engine, they were just throwing money away spending it like they did on this ride.

John_Kunkel


I'm usually the first one to criticize wheels but those don't look bad to me and he doesn't have RWL showing so that's a plus.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

crj1968

Not the best wheels, but wouldn't look so bad if they brought the body down over the wheels a bit.  IMO

phantom

Hardly qualified as a Pro Tourer with that ride height, and leafsprings IMO. And for the wheels, they loose their looks with that ride height, they would have looked alot better with the car 2-3" lower. Not my choice of wheels either, but each to their own. I like the slammed/20" with 6" lip-look, but thats me   :cheers:   

myk

The wheels are OK.  I'm more into the classic American stuff like Torq Thrusts and whatnot, but I wouldn't throw that car out of the garage...

Troy

Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
220k and it sits at stock ride height with japanese looking wheels...come one, at that price it better have a set of custom $5k deep dish billet wheels slammed down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-500-/221999510755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33b033b4e3:g:TO0AAOSwqrtWnjsQ&item=221999510755
Have you priced Forgeline wheels? Those particular ones are about $1,300 each ($5,200 total).

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

tan top

not for me :down:  ,    think 15" wheels  look the best   :Twocents:  

although  some modern 16 / 17 inch  wheels  look good / ok ! , & with new tire technology are  superior in a lot of ways .
    Also  some 16 inch  wheels like the rallye   & magnums  , look good in that size , & don't really stand out  as much being a 16 inch wheel , got a wider selection of tires too  :coolgleamA:

will always be 15" inch for me  :yesnod:

** EDIT ***  just realised the price  :faint:  nooooo 220 k for that  ::)
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

Quote from: charge69 on January 22, 2016, 04:07:15 PM
No way that Charger is worth that kind of money !!  As for your question about the wheels, TERRIBLE and definitely detract from the classic 2nd Gen looks. If it ain't an original Hemicar with the original engine, they were just throwing money away spending it like they did on this ride.

agreed  , look what  this just sold for  

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-229916/0/1969-Dodge-Hemi-Charger-500/4-Speed/


sorry for the mini hijack CBR :cheers:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

cbrestorations

Quote from: Troy on January 22, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
220k and it sits at stock ride height with japanese looking wheels...come one, at that price it better have a set of custom $5k deep dish billet wheels slammed down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-500-/221999510755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33b033b4e3:g:TO0AAOSwqrtWnjsQ&item=221999510755
Have you priced Forgeline wheels? Those particular ones are about $1,300 each ($5,200 total).

Troy



They may be $5k wheels but I can go down to discount tire and buy the same looking wheels if I wanted for $250ea, they just look like something a teenager would put on their honda. Chargers have to have some dish on them

Lennard


JR

The fitment is wrong on those wheels. Too much negative offset.

If they had an extra inch of positve offset to bring them flush with the fenders, they'd look way better.  Not to mention lowering the ride height. Why is it in 4x4 mode? Definately makes the wheels look worse.

Those hood stripes bother me the most. They dont fill the scallops at all. They're just two rectangles stuck on there.

It wouldnt take much to fix it though.
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VegasCharger

Not the best tire/rim combo for a 2nd gen Charger but not the worst I've seen.

























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jaak

Quote from: John_Kunkel on January 22, 2016, 04:33:06 PM

I'm usually the first one to criticize wheels but those don't look bad to me and he doesn't have RWL showing so that's a plus.


Amen! Type of wheels doesn't bother me as much as RWL.


chargerperson

Quote from: phantom on January 22, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
Hardly qualified as a Pro Tourer with that ride height, and leafsprings IMO. And for the wheels, they loose their looks with that ride height, they would have looked alot better with the car 2-3" lower. Not my choice of wheels either, but each to their own. I like the slammed/20" with 6" lip-look, but thats me   :cheers:  

Agree for $220k they could have replaced the leafsprings and gone with a 6 speed!

Wheels are not to my taste....  I went with 17" wheels because of the brakes so I don't want to appear to be a hypocrite but it more of a taste preference.  I went with 17" magnum 500s to try to preserve the appearance as much as possible.

c00nhunterjoe

For that money i would at least expect the rt tail stripe to line up....

RallyeMike

Drop the car 3-4 inches and it would look great.
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Quote from: jaak on January 22, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on January 22, 2016, 04:33:06 PM
I'm usually the first one to criticize wheels but those don't look bad to me and he doesn't have RWL showing so that's a plus.
Amen! Type of wheels doesn't bother me as much as RWL.

times 3.

It's a 20 foot wheel, sort of ok at 20 feet, and ugly up close.  :yesnod:




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Kern Dog

Everything kills the car when it is priced at that amount.
Even an original Hemi Daytona restored to OEM standards would be hard pressed to pull that $$$.

Lord Warlock

can't say the wheels do anything for me, but they aren't that bad, I've seen worse, like people putting 24 or 27 inch wheels on a car not designed for them.

I know some prefer the look of 14 inch wheels, but just finding 14 inch tires Is now getting harder and harder just to find normal replacement rubber, its pretty much special orders now. I put on 17 inch magnum 500s primarily to get the width I wanted, and the magnum 500 looks which I'd always wanted on my car.  Didn't buy them to impress judges at shows, just wanted a wheel that would safely hold a mounted 235  tire.  That width is as close as I could come to the L50-15 bias ply tires I had on it for 20 years in storage.
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phantom

Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Troy on January 22, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
220k and it sits at stock ride height with japanese looking wheels...come one, at that price it better have a set of custom $5k deep dish billet wheels slammed down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-500-/221999510755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33b033b4e3:g:TO0AAOSwqrtWnjsQ&item=221999510755
Have you priced Forgeline wheels? Those particular ones are about $1,300 each ($5,200 total).

Troy



They may be $5k wheels but I can go down to discount tire and buy the same looking wheels if I wanted for $250ea, they just look like something a teenager would put on their honda. Chargers have to have some dish on them

My thoughts exactly  :yesnod: Forgeline are up there among the best wheel makers, but these were just boring on that Charger.

RCCDrew

not enough offset on the front wheels is the problem. I'll bet that's because the aftermarket front suspension is wider than the factory suspension. That happens a lot on touring cars like this.

BrianShaughnessy

They don't kill it...   the fact he's trying to get over $200K kills it.   
  Nice car but has way too much into the resto to ever break even... or close to it.

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Mike DC

Quotenot enough offset on the front wheels is the problem. I'll bet that's because the aftermarket front suspension is wider than the factory suspension. That happens a lot on touring cars like this

True.  But there's no way around it.  The flat-faced wheel offset is a necessary part of a modernized front end geometry.



QuoteNice car but has way too much into the resto to ever break even... or close to it.

That sounds right & proper to me.  

Almost any resto/mod that did not cost enough to be a money-loser . . wasn't done right.  


Troy

Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: Troy on January 22, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 22, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
220k and it sits at stock ride height with japanese looking wheels...come one, at that price it better have a set of custom $5k deep dish billet wheels slammed down
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-500-/221999510755?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33b033b4e3:g:TO0AAOSwqrtWnjsQ&item=221999510755
Have you priced Forgeline wheels? Those particular ones are about $1,300 each ($5,200 total).

Troy



They may be $5k wheels but I can go down to discount tire and buy the same looking wheels if I wanted for $250ea, they just look like something a teenager would put on their honda. Chargers have to have some dish on them
Two different things. I'm not saying the wheels look great on this car - just that they aren't some after thought picked up at the local chain store. They could be worse. Much worse!

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

RCCDrew

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 23, 2016, 10:06:55 AM
Quotenot enough offset on the front wheels is the problem. I'll bet that's because the aftermarket front suspension is wider than the factory suspension. That happens a lot on touring cars like this

True.  But there's no way around it.  The flat-faced wheel offset is a necessary part of a modernized front end geometry.



QuoteNice car but has way too much into the resto to ever break even... or close to it.

That sounds right & proper to me.  

Almost any resto/mod that did not cost enough to be a money-loser . . wasn't done right.  
The way around it is to modernize the front suspension.  There are some really fast old Mopar's running on road courses with the factory suspension.

JB400

Unfortunately, Forgeline doesn't make a wheel that seems to look right on a Mopar.  They look alright on everything else though.

myk

They have a wheel that's loosely based on a Torq Thrust; I'm OK with it except the cost...

DeltaV

I don't like look or stance; and I hate the wheels.
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1974dodgecharger

looks ugly as SIN!!!!  Ride height is off, no 6 speed, no blower, rims too big, non stock suspension, pathetic PERIOD!!!

WHAT IT NEEDS:
12inch rims
stock suspension
3 speed column shifter
stock paint

fy469rtse

I like the car , in the video wheels look great in motion,
Not so great stationary,
It's close to the look I love triple black 70,
Not a fan of low profile tyres,
I wish money was no object, I would buy the car and put a much better looking set on it, and post it on here to kick this thread off again :lol: