3rd Gen Dash pics

[Charger1973]

I am interested to see all the different variations of dashes in you guys 71-74s.  Has anyone painted a Rallye cluster black?  Im thinking of doing this and would like to see a picture fo what it would look like. 

In my first Charger there was no woodgrain and I actually liked it that way.  It had the standard dash though, with silver painted trim around the gauges and the passenger side of the dash had a black textured panel instead of the brown woodgrain finished ones you always see.  It was pretty cool.  There was also no woodgrain on the door panels, instead there was a black vinyl/cloth type material.  It was stock, but something you dont see very often...

[TruckDriver]

[Nacho-RT74]

the one you described were the plain optioned car, with no woodgrain. Mostly of them were WL21 on VIN that is the low priced, with non roll down quarter windows. As stated by you, had also not woodgrain on dash insert passenger side, where are the A/C/Heater vent outlets, or maybe "Strato" vents.. or maybe plain, depends of equipment.

after those on scale are the woodgrained standart clusters with also the rest of parts woodgrained looks ( doors panels and passenger side insert ).

next on scale, all woodgrained with Rallye cluster but no clock or tach. Instead that it has big double gauge meter with oil and gas, and the smaller ones with only one gauge function... temp and amm on each one ( posted by DCG )

next on scale, the smaller gauges are doubles meter, one oil/gas, and the other one temp/amm. On big gauge at a side of speedo is the clock.

next one, is teh same as above but with tach.

another differences on rallye clusters are depend of year... normally 71 are 150 speedos with red high beams signal and next years are 120 speedos with blue high beams signal, but you can find oftenly up 73 with 150 speedos, maybe replaced because damaged and bought on dealers, or maybe from assembly line with still 150 speedos on stock. All standarts are 120 speedos.

Another difference on both rallye and standart clusters are the lettering and icon on lights and wiper switches, mandatory since 73 for international laws, even you can find also some 74s with non iconed lettering.

Other than silver or woodgrained standart cluster or Rallye what was allways woodgrained, is a custom job as far I know

[TruckDriver]

Really, there was such a thing as a black Rallye dash?? That is a new one to me

[doctorpimp]

Really, there was such a thing as a black Rallye dash?? That is a new one to me

I think he was talking about painting a woodgrain one black...

[doctorpimp]

Here are pics of my WL21 car, the center console isn't original

[Charger1973]

Yep, thats the interior that I had on my old one.  Has anyone ever seen this "low cost" interior in white?  I am looking for a way to get rid of the woodgrain on my white door panels without it looking like crap and the material on these would be perfect.  Wouldnt have to be exact, I could make them if I had to.  Just wondering if they made them or not. 

[doctorpimp]

They may have made the interior in white as well.  My car was orig Blue - bench with the blue low cost/no option interior.  I think all my interior stuff is from a 1974 WL21  - the rear seat panels have the cut-out for the front seat shoulder belt retractor.  The console is tan/yellow, dyed black I don't know which Mopar those seats are from - Magnum/Cordoba

[defiance]

Here's my black painted rallye.  The interior is all black, and it actually looks better in this case than the wood did.  Of course, this one is modified for the flush mount blank-black face stereo, so you'll have to use your imagination if you're using stock radio

[defiance]

erm... I guess it helps to actually post the link, eh?

http://www.edesignaudio.com/installs/images/edis/699.jpg

[Nacho-RT74]

I think you can't find any problem removing woodgrain from door panels since is just a vinyl decal attached. BUT JUST IN CASE I have a pair of very nice upper 73/74 doors panels woodgrained for sale, in case you damage them. They are in Kansas.

I think all my interior stuff is from a 1974 WL21  - the rear seat panels have the cut-out for the front seat shoulder belt retractor.

DO YOU STILL HAVE THOSE REAR PANELS ?

[doctorpimp]

I think you can't find any problem removing woodgrain from door panels since is just a vinyl decal attached. BUT JUST IN CASE I have a pair of very nice upper 73/74 doors panels woodgrained for sale, in case you damage them. They are in Kansas.

I think all my interior stuff is from a 1974 WL21  - the rear seat panels have the cut-out for the front seat shoulder belt retractor.

DO YOU STILL HAVE THOSE REAR PANELS ?

YES.  I'll post a pic later

[doctorpimp]

Nacho,
Here's the panels:

[Nacho-RT74]

I have a doubt... you are talking about you dyed a center console and I'm seeing seat panels  with white marks, some like black painted but with chips off

are your 74 plastic panels white but painted black ?

I have a COMPLETE 73 interior set to trade IN BLACK and PERFECT conditions if that's the case. I would remove black paint.

[doctorpimp]

I don't know if they're white or not for sure.  But, I'm removing my interior today for bodywork so I'll check the backs etc and let you know.
I as well have the impression that the seat backs were white - painted black, as they are a little chalky and flaking.  More to follow

[Nacho-RT74]

seat backs are not a problem to find. the problem are 74 rears, since they are not being reproduced.. Mine are chalky. Also seat backs. Both white yellowed by the sun but painted on same white was originally.

keep me posted please.


getting back about topic

[Nacho-RT74]

standart cluster with iconed lettering. As stated, since 73, but you still can find 73 and in some cases 74 clusters without icons.


and a close up of non clock or tach rallye cluster without bezel... bezel fits on any cluster but back housing and gauges are not interchangeable with speedo exception.

[Brock Samson]

let's see your interior pics Natcho... Please?.. 

[Nacho-RT74]

hehehe... they are in my signature... but let's post

[Nacho-RT74]

Tuff wheel was remake by me with one of those pool swiming kids toys and the covered on leather. Upholstery guy told me he used black leather but I thik he lied me and used gray leather and painted black. I already dye it again. Is not the best cover on a wheel made ( look at spokes joints ) but will do a better job soon as I can afford.

This rallye cluster come I think from a 71, since it has 150 speedo with red high beams indicator, 71 wiper switch what is bigger on back than 72 and laters and use two plugs instead one, and non icons on switchs lettering. I won on ebay on $150 more less ( I can't remember exactly ) including knobs. Not a bad deal.

if some of you knows about a 240 KPH speedo let me know please . I'll trade for my 150 MPH

[Ghoste]

No business jumping in here with nothing useful to contribute to the thread but I had to say that I have never seen or heard of that WL21 dash before.  I have always thought (and only ever seen)that all 3rd gens came with the instrument cluster with four round openings.
This forum never fails to amaze me.

[Charger1973]

That 240 KPH speedo is sweet!  Anyone who didnt know better would be thinking DAMN this car must be FAST

[Nacho-RT74]

Oh yes... standart clusters were installed on plain Chargers and Coronets. Silver cluster is not a WL21 exclusivity, same as woodgrained. You can find any of both standart clusters kind on Any VIN Charger ( except SE I think, and R/T-Rallye packaged of course by default, since doesn't exist Rallye not woodgrained cluster ). Difference is just if car were woodgrain optioned. Of course were more common to find silver clusters not woodgrained interiors on WL21 Chargers since were low priced ones, but is not JUST WL21 models...same about Coronets.

What I don't know is the center console top plate were also silver or woodgrained on NOT woodgrained interiors... never have seen a NOT woodgrained interior center console plate. Maybe all were front bench

240 KPH speedo were to cars for export and assemblied ouside USA ( I have th PN ), mostly Mexico. Venezuelan Chargers are all standart clusters with 200 KPH speedos ( 120 MPH equivalent ).

I have seen on streets some ( 3 or 4 ) 74 coronets called Special Editions down here with Rallye clusters and 240 KPH speedos, but never have been able to contact to owner to make the trade. They are pretty rare down here.

[Ghoste]

If you think they're rare down there...

[Nacho-RT74]

uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh eeeeeeeeeehm...

I mean, those "74 SEs" Coronets are really not common...

[Ghoste]

I thought you meant the 240kph speedo but 74 Coronet SE's are not all that common up here either.

[Nacho-RT74]

I thought you meant the 240kph speedo but 74 Coronet SE's are not all that common up here either.

both of them hehehe...

I think 74 Coronets "SEs" were model assemblied just down here.

were rally clusters an option on 71-74 Coronets up there ?

[hemihead]

71-74 Coronets did not come with a Ralley cluster.

[Nacho-RT74]

OK, then confirmed, just here were available only on 74... some of them in fact ( first ones coming out from assembly line ) were 400 equipped with 4 bbls I think. I know an owner of one of them ( already sold ). He actually is restoring a 70 Cuda.

[Charger1973]

Nacho check your PM I found something you might be interested in   

[Nacho-RT74]

Thanks buddy because you have opened eyes... shame they don't  look better than mines...

[71charger_fan]

"71-74 Coronets did not come with a Ralley cluster"

The Coronet Brougham in the '71 Charger/Coronet dealer brochure clearly shows a ralley cluster. The tachometer (N85) was optional on the Brougham and Crestwood. If there was no ralley (rallye?) cluster available where did it go?

A poster in this thread states that he had a 71 Coronet with rallye dash and 150mph speedo:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2583242&an=0&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD