Change in direction, 383 vs modern 5.7 Hemi

[6spd68]

Hey guys,
   Just looking for opinions, and advice.  After watching the 'Mopar 383 VS Chevy 383 Stroker' Engine Masters video; I've started giving serious consideration to the 383.  After doing some research, I feel it's likely going to be much cheaper going that route(plus I already have new fuel lines, and exaust).  I've found a disassembled block for 200$, and found a source in Canada for the complete Edlebrock top end (Alluminum heads, intake, and cam).  Hopefully, I'll have a friend pick up the block and components for me tomorrow.

   That being said, I'm hoping you guys can throw me some direction/advice/opinions on building a 383 vs going the modern 5.7 Hemi route that I had originally intended.  Opinions on performance, fuel economy, and build combo advice would be much appreciated.  I'm defintely going to pick up this top-end kit: http://www.tdotperformance.ca/edelbrock-2086-power-package-top-end-kits.html (No duty or shipping fees!  Price comes out to the same as it would be via JEGS/Summit in the US), and I'll be looking at a Holley Carb, with MSD ignition most likely.  All in all, this will also save me the stress and cost of trying to make the 5.7 fit properly.

   So lemme know what you think 

[Troy]

If you have any sort of budget at all... I'd go with a 383. I love modern engines but a 383 is cheap and fits with stock parts. With all the new toys being made they're easy to convert to EFI and a good ignition. The wiring harness to install a 5.7 will cost more than a 383 with a decent set of aluminum heads.

Troy

[Mike DC]

  
As for the 5.7, it's a good motor for what it is but it's basically the 360 replacement.  It's something like 350 inches and it makes small-block torque levels.  The HEMI factor won't do much below 4000 RPM.  If I was doing a G3 Hemi then I would be looking into stroking it.  



The only problems with a 383 are this:

#1 - it's roughly as heavy as a 440*, and all the parts other than cores cost the same.

#2 - saying you have a 383 doesn't impress people.  


*I've see the weights of 620 vs 670 listed online too.  I don't buy it.  The blocks are known to be within 20 lbs of each other.  Where else is there 30 more pounds' worth of difference?  The 620 & 670 engines were probably weighed with different accessories.  The same list includes another size of Mopar B-wedge at 650.

[Mopar Nut]

#2 - saying you have a 383 doesn't impress people.  

Why?

Do you have a six-pack on your 440?

[JB400]

Those that aren't impressed by a 383 haven't ridden in one.

[birdsandbees]

Yep, I'd say that as well. 

[Mike DC]

Why?

Do you have a six-pack on your 440?

Those that aren't impressed by a 383 haven't ridden in one.

383's are under-appreciated.  A lot of non-Mopar people will assume it's a small block when they hear the number.

Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.

[birdsandbees]

That's like saying the 396 guy wasn't appreciated compared to the 454 guys... neither could keep up to my 383 on the highway! 

[Kern Dog]

 "So lemme know what you think"   

What do I think? Heck yeah!
Many reasons:
It is a proven design. It bolts in with stock mounts, headers and ignition with ZERO modifications. It will cost much less.
Good luck!

[viper r/t]

Why?

Do you have a six-pack on your 440?

Those that aren't impressed by a 383 haven't ridden in one.

383's are under-appreciated.  A lot of non-Mopar people will assume it's a small block when they hear the number.

Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.

Sooo true Mike!

[Ponch ®]

 

#2 - saying you have a 383 doesn't impress people.  

and you have to keep pointing out that it is a Chrysler 383, not a Chevy stroker.

[c00nhunterjoe]

Most people dont believe mine is a 383 after just hearing it, let alone riding in it.

[Kern Dog]

Do we build these cars to impress ourselves or other people ?

[6spd68]

The unreliable people of Kijiji...  The 200$ one is likely going to fall through.  Had my buddy going to get it, but the owner called him off saying someone else was on their way.  Called him myself, he's gonna call me back if the other dude doesn't snatch it.  Oh well, looks like I'll just have to grab another.

[Troy]

Well, I have one sitting in my garage (no intake but heads to oil pan). You're 7.5 hours away according to Google but I was planning to go to the WPC swap meet in Detroit. Although now it looks like I'll be on a plane heading the other way... So far I'm going to be 0-3 in 2016 for swap meets and shows that I planned to attend.

Troy

[c00nhunterjoe]

Do we build these cars to impress ourselves or other people ?

i built mine for me, and only me. I could give 2 sheets what other people complain about on it. Its my car, go build your own. Lol

[70 sublime]

So you did not get a 383 block
Are you still looking for one or would you just go straight to a 440 ?

Yes everybody does ask if it has a 440 as it is the first question anybody ever asks

I have a 383 that is the right date code for my 69 Charger just not sure if I will use it yet

[70 sublime]

This is my 4th try to reply so this time there are no more pictures (have to keep changing the names ....... )

It came with a bunch of parts I picked up the way you see it
Looks to be 30 over (stamped on pistons)
Was said to be running but do not know why they took it apart
Crank is drilled for a standard transmission
The heads were all rebuilt but they are on the 440 in my green car now (long story)

[dual fours]

This is my 4th try to reply so this time there are no more pictures (have to keep changing the names ....... )

It came with a bunch of parts I picked up the way you see it
Looks to be 30 over (stamped on pistons)
Was said to be running but do not know why they took it apart
Crank is drilled for a standard transmission
The heads were all rebuilt but they are on the 440 in my green car now (long story)

Here's a easy thing I think to do for the "change the name thing". Keep the same name and just add to it.      Example first picture - My 383 block
                                                                                                                                                                   renamed to - My 383 block-1
                                                                                                                                                                   renamed to - My 383 block-2
                                                                                                                                                                   Just keep changing the last #  

[70 sublime]

Yes

I tried and had just the name piston then 1 piston  then 1.1 piston then gave up as it would say something different every time double post or same name on one picture already posted or have already replied to post or ..... frustrating at times 

[stripedelete]

Don't put too much thought into it, just press your palm on the keyboard.

[myk]

Use photobucket.com and call the picture whatever you want to.

Modern engines are incredible;  the new Hemi's, the SRT motors, the LS series, the Coyote motor, and let's not mention the  foreign stuff, but in my opinion the visceral experience of driving an old school muscle car is lost when a super smooth modern power plant is installed.  I mean no disrespect to the brave builders who install modern engines into these old cars, but for my car I would stick with a traditional big block, keeping the looks, feel and sound of classic brawn, but with a healthy dose of trick aftermarket pieces: good headers, a trick fuel/induction system, a strong ignition and maybe even forced induction.

Do we build these cars to impress ourselves or other people ?

Finally, the goal with the car is to impress girls.  Preferably ones with nice curves, long legs,  easy smiles and tiny clothing.  It hasn't worked yet, though.  I'll post up if that changes...

[69wannabe]

I never liked the 383 B engine that was in my charger, it was a slug and I have no idea why. It was built good with a good mid- size cam, good pistons 9.2 to 1, and headers and a Mopar/edelbrock intake (DP4B) and it just didn't perform. Now my buddy had a 69 super bee with a 383 that ran great and had what seemed like alot more hp than my charger and it was mostly stock. When the 440 went in I had what felt more like a muscle car then. Not a 383 hater but for the price of rebuilding you can build the 440 for the same and it's easier to get the hp and torque out of it IMO.

[Mike DC]

I never liked the 383 B engine that was in my charger, it was a slug and I have no idea why. It was built good with a good mid- size cam, good pistons 9.2 to 1, and headers and a Mopar/edelbrock intake (DP4B) and it just didn't perform. Now my buddy had a 69 super bee with a 383 that ran great and had what seemed like alot more hp than my charger and it was mostly stock. When the 440 went in I had what felt more like a muscle car then. Not a 383 hater but for the price of rebuilding you can build the 440 for the same and it's easier to get the hp and torque out of it IMO.

I wonder if standard-issue 383 pistons suffer from the same lack of compression height that 440s do.
 

[oddis]

you can use the money you saved on buying "just" a simple    383 and a used trans ,  to buy a limited slip and some decent brakes in front..  , and then you can have fun, burn rubber and have the right sound until the lotto ticks inn, and then buy a new 5,7 hemi, or even a hellcat.   or just  tune the old 383   

or you can buy an old 440/ new 5,7 hemi for a lot more money, and drive around with drums, and one smoking tire in the rear....


I went for the first option and I'm very happy with the choice     ( but i have to admit I'm still waiting for the lotto , so I still have the drum brakes  , no engine or discs was my choice when I built the car)