so u buy a new hellcat...

[1974dodgecharger]

Then drive immediately to a car show from the dealer and win a trophy.....interesting

[Baldwinvette77]

Hell yeah, Trophy goes to the deepest pockets 

[tan top]

 in some cases , sad but true 

[DixieRestoParts]

Then drive immediately to a car show from the dealer and win a trophy.....interesting

LOL, well that's one way to put it.

[Mike DC]

  
And why would you want that particular trophy?  

   

[Charger-Bodie]

I took my Hellcat Challenger to a car show soon after I got it, but I didn't enter into any class . Just so people could check one out.

[Troy]

In general, brand new cars at a car show is a turn off for me. However, the Hellcats are rare and amazing enough to warrant it. It's not like doing the same thing with a new Camry. A few years ago I was at a cruise in (not even a real show) and there were seven Camaros with the window stickers still on them. Seven. You're not that cool when everyone has a car just like it!

Troy

[Drache]

In general, brand new cars at a car show is a turn off for me.

Same here!

Every carshow it's the same thing. People bring in their brand new totally stock brand new Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs, etc. If I want to see those I'll walk around a dealership.

Now if that off the lot new Challenger has a custom paintjob or really custom engine work that is something else.

[69bronzeT5]

In my opinion, if you love your car (old or new) and want to show it off- who gives a shit what other people think.......take it to a damn car show if that's what makes you happy!

[1970Moparmann]

In my opinion, if you love your car (old or new) and want to show it off- who gives a shit what other people think.......take it to a damn car show if that's what makes you happy!

AMEN!

[tan top]

In general, brand new cars at a car show is a turn off for me. However, the Hellcats are rare and amazing enough to warrant it. It's not like doing the same thing with a new Camry. A few years ago I was at a cruise in (not even a real show) and there were seven Camaros with the window stickers still on them. Seven. You're not that cool when everyone has a car just like it!

Troy

yeah , i'm like that when I see modern / new muscle cars at show   , these are all awesome cars but ,don't think they should be with the old 60/early 70s  cars     no offence meant .
   as awesome as a viper is  , don't think these should be parked in the same area at shows to 60s 70s muscle cars  , too modern ! ,  although the  weird thing is a 92 viper  is 23 years old today give or take  , when I bought my 69 charger it was 19 years old 

In my opinion, if you love your car (old or new) and want to show it off- who gives a shit what other people think.......take it to a damn car show if that's what makes you happy!

AMEN!

  True     what ever makes you happy !! 

[1974dodgecharger]

I guess it was a semi rant on my part for my friends who build old classic cars and go to these shows and don't win nothing and some random dude gets out of his hellcat and people go crazy over it and his response is, 'Oh I just got it from my dealership just drove off and came here' and gets a trophy......

when......

I have friends with 66, 67, 68, 69, 70 chargers who have not won nothing and have put over 100k into their builds...not that its a big deal its just a trophy, but I find it weird I guess buying a car off the lot and immediately going to a car show and being judged in it....to win that trophy 


I seen enough hellcats..to know there is a supercharger under the hood, different colors, etc....

[ws23rt]

I guess it was a semi rant on my part for my friends who build old classic cars and go to these shows and don't win nothing and some random dude gets out of his hellcat and people go crazy over it and his response is, 'Oh I just got it from my dealership just drove off and came here' and gets a trophy......

when......

I have friends with 66, 67, 68, 69, 70 chargers who have not won nothing and have put over 100k into their builds...not that its a big deal its just a trophy, but I find it weird I guess buying a car off the lot and immediately going to a car show and being judged in it....to win that trophy 


I seen enough hellcats..to know there is a supercharger under the hood, different colors, etc....

.  ----I have a hellcat and bought it because of what it is and to grab the experience of feeling how it drives. The thought of taking it to a car show has not been a part of why I bought it.
I also understand the draw to them because of the press and owner hype. There is little question about their popularity. This--I shook the hand of so and so draw that they have now will pass quickly.

A car club get together for a brand and style specific car is a different kind of celebration that I may take my car to. I'm interested in meeting other owners and comparing experiences.

I agree that a car show that is about 40+ year old muscle cars (for example) is no place for a new Bentley.

[Aero426]

Newer cars at the show help pay the bills.   If you dont want to see them, just walk on by.

[Drache]

I guess it was a semi rant on my part for my friends who build old classic cars and go to these shows and don't win nothing and some random dude gets out of his hellcat and people go crazy over it and his response is, 'Oh I just got it from my dealership just drove off and came here' and gets a trophy......

Yup been to a couple shows where a plain factory brand new car has won "best of show" or "best muscle". Kind of annoying when you see cars where someone has put in 10 years and thousands of dollars lose.

Granted one of these shows I remember a Austin Mini won "best asian import"... 

[RallyeMike]

If the main goal is to impress enough people to get a trophy, then you've already lost.

[birdsandbees]

Haven't done a real car show since somewhere in the 90's, but the rule was any car entered always had to be a least 15 model years old back then. So in 1989 the newest car allowed would have been a '74 .

[Ghoste]

It sucks but the Hellcat is kind of a big deal.  Now if you lost to new stock Civic...

[JB400]

You do have to admit though, the judges are just like everyone else, and want to see something fresh every once in a while.  Hellcat fits the bill perfectly.  Now, if the same Hellcat showed up every year for the next 10 years, I doubt that it'll be pulling the trophies.

[Aero426]

If the main goal is to impress enough people to get a trophy, then you've already lost.

There is a older guy who bought a 100th Anniversary edition Challenger locally.   It only goes to and from cruise night.   It really is nothing special, but by the display put out every week, he thinks it is.   I guess he is having a good time with it, no matter what.

[1974dodgecharger]

If the main goal is to impress enough people to get a trophy, then you've already lost.

There is a older guy who bought a 100th Anniversary edition Challenger locally.   It only goes to and from cruise night.   It really is nothing special, but by the display put out every week, he thinks it is.   I guess he is having a good time with it, no matter what.

had a guy here in Phoenix buy a hellcat challenger, PCP, manual, etc...he said these cars are so valuable he is NOT gonna drive it.  He took pictures of everything, where it stood at the dealership, mangers signatures, etc...then had it TOWED from the dealership straight into into his GARAGE......didn't even want to start it up to ruin the internals he claims or take, 'LIFE" away from it..  

This is NO JOKE....and NOT kidding...dude had it towed so that he would NOT start it up paid in CASH right out of the dealership.

[ws23rt]

Wow  --Talk about an enjoyable experience with ownership.

And I thought driving mine 2k miles home was fun?   I could have had it shipped.

He had better seal it in a zip lock bag quick to keep the high going until it is secure.

[HeavyFuel]

If the main goal is to impress enough people to get a trophy, then you've already lost.

There is a older guy who bought a 100th Anniversary edition Challenger locally.   It only goes to and from cruise night.   It really is nothing special, but by the display put out every week, he thinks it is.   I guess he is having a good time with it, no matter what.

had a guy here in Phoenix buy a hellcat challenger, PCP, manual, etc...he said these cars are so valuable he is NOT gonna drive it.  He took pictures of everything, where it stood at the dealership, mangers signatures, etc...then had it TOWED from the dealership straight into into his GARAGE......didn't even want to start it up to ruin the internals he claims or take, 'LIFE" away from it..  

This is NO JOKE....and NOT kidding...dude had it towed so that he would NOT start it up paid in CASH right out of the dealership.

It's amazing what people with too much $$ will do.  Some of their actions seem ludicrous. 

Time will tell if his investment strategy is sound.   

[myk]

If the main goal is to impress enough people to get a trophy, then you've already lost.

There is a older guy who bought a 100th Anniversary edition Challenger locally.   It only goes to and from cruise night.   It really is nothing special, but by the display put out every week, he thinks it is.   I guess he is having a good time with it, no matter what.

had a guy here in Phoenix buy a hellcat challenger, PCP, manual, etc...he said these cars are so valuable he is NOT gonna drive it.  He took pictures of everything, where it stood at the dealership, mangers signatures, etc...then had it TOWED from the dealership straight into into his GARAGE......didn't even want to start it up to ruin the internals he claims or take, 'LIFE" away from it..  

This is NO JOKE....and NOT kidding...dude had it towed so that he would NOT start it up paid in CASH right out of the dealership.

Pointless.  He could die tomorrow and he never would have enjoyed his investment.  But then again, we drive our stuff and could die tomorrow as well.  Se la vi...

[Mike DC]

     
If you're never going to start a car up, look at it, sit in it, etc, then why even own it? 

At that point it's just money on paper.  Only it costs a lot more than paper money to store & insure. 

[Moparman01]

I have absolutely no problem with modern American muscle showing up to car shows and cruise nights. First and foremost they are American muscle cars, and basically the "grand kids" of our 60's/70's old school muscle machines. Now, i do NOT feel they should ever be competing against classic cars, it's an apples to oranges comparison, put the modern muscle into there own classes! Then, to me, it's no harm no foul to bring out your Challenger R/T or SRT, roushe mustang, or ss camero and show it off, bone stock or modified to the hill! It's not the same as bringing a toyota camery to show!

Two things, it's not just undeserving "new car" owners that win local shows. I hate to say this but i've won numerous trophy's with my General Lee replica simply because it's the General Lee. Truth is, my General is FAR from perfect, it's a 30 footer at best with a hot 440, but plenty of bubbling going on under the paint and wavy rear quarters. It needs work (actually it was scheduled to go under the knife but the plan fell thru, so i decided to send my '68 off to the body shop first). I stopped entering it into trophy hand out shows, especially after the year i won 1st place at a big local show and a good friend of mine got nothing with his freshly ground up restored/hot rodded '54 Ford that is gorgeous Candy Apple red custom paint and 428 Cobra Jet and 4 speed for power, i felt like a complete a**hole for receiving that trophy over him (and probably 100 other cars more deserving). On the other hand, i also have a 2010 Challenger R/T Classic of which i take to cruise in's from time to time, especially ones that are a long distance away. Do to some logistical reasons with my time, it makes more sense some weekends to jump in the Challenger and go to a cruise in function over my classic machines. I still bring out my 71 Demon to 95% of our local cruise night get togethers! Only once a year does my '10 Challenger get entered in trophy/judged show, but they have a big modern Challenger class with about 30-40 modern Challengers, mild to wild. My Challenger is almost stock, save for Cold Air induction and Mopar Performance exhaust. Cosmetically i would/will not change a thing, i feel the Classic edition was the best "package" available on these cars, the Heritage rims, classic scripture, and longitudinal side stripes just look perfect to me! And it's a fairly rare color combo, Hemi Orange with white side stripes (326 in that combo) and a 6-speed. I've never won a trophy with the car, and that's perfectly fine with me and i don't want to win! Now when my '68 is finished, a trophy or 2 would be pretty cool, we'll see how that works out an couple years! So basically, hot cars are hot cars, let the modern guy's come out and have some fun with their rides too!         

[Mytur Binsdirti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNgb_BUsOs4

[ACUDANUT]

Your a Dodge Hater. Why are you here ?.  
Anyway, I hate to see new cars at a car show also. 

[ws23rt]

Your a Dodge Hater. Why are you here ?.  
Anyway, I hate to see new cars at a car show also.  

I'm curious    Who are you referring to as being a dodge hater?---Without a quote attached it's hard to tell.

I know I'm not a "dodge hater" because the Dodge name has been with me since I bought a 69 superbee new.

In 09 I bought a challenger srt8 and it was a Fiat.  Before that they were Mercedes I don't dwell on the name of the cool cars with the name "Dodge" on them because of the name.-- For me the real dodges are antiques and where my collector interest is.

I don't mine that the new cool cars have the same name but they are clearly a world away from what we celebrate the most here.
The marketers have sense enough to not call the challenger or charger a Fiat.

[stripedelete]

Great Video!

[ACUDANUT]

Your a Dodge Hater. Why are you here ?.  
Anyway, I hate to see new cars at a car show also.  

I'm curious    Who are you referring to as being a dodge hater?---Without a quote attached it's hard to tell.

I know I'm not a "dodge hater" because the Dodge name has been with me since I bought a 69 superbee new.

In 09 I bought a challenger srt8 and it was a Fiat.  Before that they were Mercedes I don't dwell on the name of the cool cars with the name "Dodge" on them because of the name.-- For me the real dodges are antiques and where my collector interest is.

I don't mine that the new cool cars have the same name but they are clearly a world away from what we celebrate the most here.
The marketers have sense enough to not call the challenger or charger a Fiat.

I was referring to my turbin is dirty you-tube video salute.  Either way, I am "Old School", so I guess I really don't mind anyone's opion's on the new FIAT Brand.  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I was referring to my turbin is dirty you-tube video salute.  Either way, I am "Old School", so I guess I really don't mind anyone's opion's on the new FIAT Brand.  

Being a Hellcat owner, I aint no hater. I just threw the video up because it was ridiculous.   

[Mike DC]

                 
I think that video is more on-target than we want to admit, at least in terms of how the Hellcat relates to Mopar's current condition.  The car is cool but it's just a distraction from the company's real issues. 

[Charger-Bodie]

I think it's the key to their problems. Chrysler has always had their best times when concentrating on performance cars. It's what they do best.

[Mike DC]

Chrysler has always had their best times when concentrating on performance cars. It's what they do best.

I agree that performance & style are what they do best.  

But that only works during eras when tons of working people have excess money to waste on crappy cars.  That is not the present or the foreseeable future. 

On the other hand quality sells all the time.  It still helps even when people have excess money. 

[Charger-Bodie]

But"... Everything they build sells better when they are building performance .

[skip68]

I've often wondered if the Chrysler performance line sells better because they do hit homeruns but also are limited in numbers compared to ferd and cheby.   

[Mike DC]

  
How can a product line sell "better" because they make fewer of them?  

They can't raises prices on their hi-po models by a few thousand bucks and make up for not selling a ton more of them.  The number of cars is amount of profit.  



Realistically, no amount of Hellcat sales will keep Mopar afloat.  No amount of Hellcats + SRTs of all models will do it either.  The profits from these cars don't even have enough zeroes for that.    

But the Japanese brands have proven plenty of times that boring high-quality models will keep a company afloat.    They can sometimes even spawn a thriving enthusiast crowd.  

[ACUDANUT]

I was referring to my turbin is dirty you-tube video salute.  Either way, I am "Old School", so I guess I really don't mind anyone's opion's on the new FIAT Brand.  

Being a Hellcat owner, I aint no hater. I just threw the video up because it was ridiculous.   

Sorry Bro I took it the wrong way. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Sorry Bro I took it the wrong way. 

Don't worry about it. Believe it or not, I too actually made a mistake once.