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moparstuart · December 09, 2015, 03:31:50 PM

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/5342167587.html

moparstuart · December 09, 2015, 03:35:07 PM

Dave Kanofsky · December 09, 2015, 04:02:14 PM

overwhelming pics and description...

Aero426 · December 09, 2015, 05:30:19 PM

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on December 09, 2015, 04:02:14 PM
overwhelming pics and description...

They went all out.

Montreal Wing Car · December 09, 2015, 05:45:05 PM

Quick! Before Kounts Kustoms grabs it!

Ben

djcarguy · December 10, 2015, 04:48:11 AM

Has anyone checked it out an got more info??

Before cbrestoration finds it an buys it,haha. see adds 7 days old?

wonder if long race history or just a home hack,local? DJ 900 miles from it!

thehemikid · December 10, 2015, 03:45:31 PM

When I enlarge the pic it appears to be a photo shop.

skip68 · December 10, 2015, 03:52:05 PM

It looks real to me.

Looks like you can see through the drivers side hole a little.

thehemikid · December 10, 2015, 05:30:12 PM

Could be,...just aint convinced yet. And sump'n going on with the right head light opening.

tan top · December 10, 2015, 05:36:48 PM

wingcar builder · December 10, 2015, 07:49:20 PM

I talked to the guy it's homemade. got a few pics from him. kinda rough....well, ....a lot rough.

6bblgt · December 10, 2015, 10:12:58 PM

I've looked at it - pass, Chris has looked at it - pass
was a red '68 Charger, never "was" a racecar - IS a wannabe!

any good pieces in here?

thehemikid · December 11, 2015, 04:16:22 PM

Convinced,....................and would've passed too.

I see he has another project on a trailer behind the dually, but can't determine what make that C-pillar is though.

For whatever the reason, not everyone can hang in there to complete a long project,... some times we can have too many projects, ...and sometimes life has a way of throwing sticks in your spokes too.

odcics2 · December 11, 2015, 05:12:52 PM

I spy a real Nichels Engineering cross member. $2,500 - 3K right there...

Mike DC · December 11, 2015, 06:04:41 PM

Yeah, that caught my eye too.

odcics2 · December 12, 2015, 10:51:48 AM

This is what happens when you try to build a "stock car" from looking on line at pics of real cars.
There is a lot of things not plainly visible to the untrained eye. Look at the stance. Even with a Nichels front crossmember it sits high.

wingcar builder · December 12, 2015, 02:14:21 PM

it must be blocked up there isn't even any torsion bars in it.

wingcar builder · December 12, 2015, 02:26:20 PM

Does have float hubs tho.

6bblgt · December 12, 2015, 02:54:32 PM

Chevy friend (Camaro "stock" car on trailer in background, legend car in garage) of a friend owns it & got it in a trade. Knows nothing Mopar, I said I'd look at it & help to figure what he has but he listed it while I was on my way to look at it.

Had it listed as "real Charger Daytona" originally. At that point I didn't want to invest too much time because he didn't care or want to know the truth & it could've been gone before a real "value" could be determined. There was a rusted 8-3/4 center section with a newer looking locker in it laying inside the car. Wood blocks between control arms & frame rails, torsion bars inside the car.

He also would never give me a price, I saw the $5K on-line just like everyone else.

Stevearino · December 12, 2015, 04:32:12 PM

70 hood, 70 fenders.Decent quarters. Steel nose cone. Looks like a window plug in it from the inside shot.Decent doors. Looks like a shortened deck lid. If it has a 69/70 tail panel that is a plus. For $5000.00 you would be hard pressed to put all those parts together. It might not be a bad start for a resto mod or a drag car.

wingcar builder · December 12, 2015, 05:13:44 PM

chargerman69 · December 12, 2015, 07:10:57 PM

Maybe has a wing for it
Can tell that was one on it before

djcarguy · December 12, 2015, 07:39:26 PM

ANY pic of whole left side an rear??

Does cage an what looks like a roof skin by nose go too this project??

is there a wing?? looks like was 2 wings drilled an fitted at one time?

wood a set of front coil over shocks instead of t-bars work on this if it was light weight stripped down street an drag toy??

ANY info on BILL of sale or poss of title for strreeeet legal use?/? Thanks DJ ,have a 68 440 an wing what else does a guy need!!

Lennard · December 12, 2015, 08:09:01 PM

Front fender wheel arches are cut.

Stevearino · December 12, 2015, 10:17:39 PM

Looks like the plug was made with the idea that a piece of lexan would be cut to fit in the hole. No tail light panel either which would make sense if you were building a race car as this would be covered with a sheet metal blank anyway. From the rust pattern on the quarter around the wing holes it appears that at some point there was a wing protecting that area.

6bblgt · December 13, 2015, 12:05:28 AM

There was a wing on the car & it's supposed to be included, but the current owner doesn't have it.
There's a piece of sheetmetal on the floor (1st pic I posted) that is supposed to be the top fill for the rear window, the bottom pieces are just sheetmetal, the decklid is cut with no 500/Daytona cap on the underside & it's welded in place/no hinges.
No tail panel at all. Roof skin was welded on top.
Hood is '70 Charger (NOT Daytona), most of the underside is cut out, nothing inside the nose - it is welded to the fenders.

cbrestorations · December 13, 2015, 12:13:27 AM

It's not a rear plug, it's a flat piece of sheet metal welded I'm between the sail panels, car has potential to be a cool nascar clone but needs alot of reverse engineering before any progress on it could be made. I tried to buy the 3rd member, he didn't wanna part seperately. Who ever buys it...I know where there is an extra vin tag available

cbrestorations · December 13, 2015, 12:19:47 AM

The firewall was probly the nicest thing about the car I saw, the nose wasn't bad either for a home made piece, a few crooked bead rolls around the headlights and grill but not bad

XS29L9B2 · December 13, 2015, 06:12:41 AM

nice project

5000 not expensive

69_500 · December 13, 2015, 09:09:53 PM

Quote from: cbrestorations on December 13, 2015, 12:13:27 AM
It's not a rear plug, it's a flat piece of sheet metal welded I'm between the sail panels, car has potential to be a cool nascar clone but needs alot of reverse engineering before any progress on it could be made. I tried to buy the 3rd member, he didn't wanna part seperately. Who ever buys it...I know where there is an extra vin tag available

You realize putting a different VIN on this car is illegal right?

ws23rt · December 13, 2015, 09:27:12 PM

Quote from: 69_500 on December 13, 2015, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on December 13, 2015, 12:13:27 AM
It's not a rear plug, it's a flat piece of sheet metal welded I'm between the sail panels, car has potential to be a cool nascar clone but needs alot of reverse engineering before any progress on it could be made. I tried to buy the 3rd member, he didn't wanna part seperately. Who ever buys it...I know where there is an extra vin tag available

You realize putting a different VIN on this car is illegal right?

IMO what is far more important than the legality of changing the vin is the motivation to do so.

cbrestorations · December 14, 2015, 08:47:47 AM

So is selling narcotics, but our own government does it over the counter. So is murder but our own government does it to cover up high officials, so is selling weapons to terrorists but yea they do that to...so saving a charger to be put back on the road, oh man that's just a horrific crime...
Ever heard the term body swap, when restoring a car...I'm sure there are numerous people on this site that have done so. I'm sure no one has done it because of a stolen vin but just cost and time wise involved in restoring a rusty turd vs body swap.

Mike DC · December 14, 2015, 10:02:59 AM

The term for a body swap that includes swapping VINs is "fraud."

If you want to argue that sometimes it makes more sense to use a cleaner body shell than restore a real mess with a valuable VIN, I would agree. So would many others.

But there is no (honest) reason to swap the valuable rustbucket's VIN onto the solid body in that case. If you're building on the solid body then keep the solid body's VIN.

cbrestorations · December 14, 2015, 11:10:57 AM

I agree, I'm sure a few of those high dollar Barret Jackson cars don't have their original bodies

charge69 · December 14, 2015, 12:15:05 PM

VIN swapping is fraud, pure and simple, in every state in the Union. If you try to sell me a Charger that has a VIN from another car, you better have your ducks-in-a-row and if I find out after buying it, expect a lawsuit from me.
If you tell me beforehand that it has had its VIN swapped, expect me to walk away.
Sure, you can find VIN-swapped cars trading hands in the high-dollar world of B-J auctions or MECUM. Those buyers are usually NOT experts and have no idea how to verify a car is the real thing.
Myself, all I would expect from a seller would be an honest answer concerning the VIN's authenticity and I'll make my own decision. I can assure you I would never knowingly buy a car that has its VIN swapped from another car.

odcics2 · December 14, 2015, 03:32:58 PM

Nice having a stock car, cutting off the 73 body and putting a 69 back on.

wingcar builder · December 14, 2015, 06:10:15 PM

in a case like this car, it would be wasted money to try to make it a street legal ever again. just make a race car and go have fun. perfect car for those tribute vintage racers you rub the wall so what. not original parts anyways. That's my

djcarguy · December 14, 2015, 07:35:25 PM

CB_R thanks for PM reply an post an info,have a safe an fun trip...

thanks guys for pix an info.. car is interesting to me. but have to get it barely legal to bee worth owning an building. just a bill of sale is worth less than crap paper to Oregon DMV most times. no vin an or no state plate they just toss ya papers back at ya.

CANT SEE ANYONE putting a XX or HEMI vin on this?? an wood take a million bucks to fool anyone into beliving this cut up shell is a original anything?? ya think it wood fool anyone??

i wood even use a cornet 2 door 4D? dash an vin. just to get some realish paper work of ownership before dumping loads of cash in it,,,MY

DJ toy buid an hauLass.

cant ya aII just gat aIonnnnnngggg YA VIN SWAP NOT GOOD ON VALUABLE STUFF ?? DJ KAY BOA D JUNK acting up so y ! by . KEY BOARD JUNK sorry!bye,,had no e, r l an few others??

djcarguy · December 21, 2015, 08:34:53 PM

Quote from: djcarguy on December 12, 2015, 07:39:26 PM
ANY pic of whole left side an rear??

Does cage an what looks like a roof skin by nose go too this project??

is there a wing?? looks like was 2 wings drilled an fitted at one time?

wood a set of front coil over shocks instead of t-bars work on this if it was light weight stripped down street an drag toy??

ANY MORE UPDATES AN PIXS???

ANY info on BILL of sale or poss of title for strreeeet legal use?/? Thanks DJ ,have a 68 440 an wing what else does a guy need!!

ANY MORE INFO OR PIXS OR NEW BUYER??

Brutalowner · December 22, 2015, 02:08:42 PM

sold

hemi-hampton · December 23, 2015, 03:37:13 AM

Unless you have alot of money to waste on that basket case then I don't see why anybody would want to buy it. To far gone in my opinion. Might be good for parts if he had the wing to go with the nose. LEON.

wingcar builder · December 23, 2015, 02:44:07 PM

He told me he had an aluminum wing but never got any pics of it.

cbrestorations · December 24, 2015, 10:50:20 AM

must of bought it over the phone, because if they saw it in person im sure it would still be on craigslist

djcarguy · December 25, 2015, 07:33:39 AM

Quote from: Brutalowner on December 22, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
sold

So Brutal any confession or info as to the one word ,?? SOLD

Brutalowner · December 30, 2015, 08:13:19 PM

Not me, DJ.
I did speak with the guy though. He said it sold quickly. It'll pop up somewhere, I'm sure.

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