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2015 ford truck simple wreck, big results - check this out

Started by odcics2, November 28, 2015, 03:02:54 PM

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odcics2

Next buzz words on the 'net;  "The Ford Tear"

Apparently, the new Ford truck doesn't crush or wrinkle, but tears into pieces.
Looks like it backed into a can opener...
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

RallyeMike

1969 Charger 500 #232008
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1973 Charger "T/A"

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Alaskan_TA

Looks like one of the new aluminum bodies & thin aluminum is easy to tear.

polywideblock

did it in fact back into  something , or has it taken a fairly substantial blow to the extreme  right rear corner from the side  :scratchchin:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

el dub

Quote from: RallyeMike on November 28, 2015, 03:58:49 PM
How could this happen? It's "military-grade"!

:shruggy:

Different than mil spec.
Never heard of military grade.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

odcics2

Quote from: polywideblock on November 28, 2015, 05:46:04 PM
did it in fact back into  something , or has it taken a fairly substantial blow to the extreme  right rear corner from the side  :scratchchin:

maybe it was RAM'd....   :smilielol:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

garner7555

It side swipped something.  See how the bumper and bedside are ripped toward the back of the truck, not toward the front.
69 Charger 440 resto-mod

birdsandbees

I build and rebuild aluminum airplanes for a living. My '11 x F150 will be my last Ford until they go back to the shit steel they were already using.

Aluminum "Military Grade".. give me a break it's all made to MIL spec.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

73rallye440magnum

Are the passengers safe?

Who cares about the truck?

What difference does it make if the steel bends or the aluminum tears?

My two cents- it was engineered to fail this way.

Function before form, fellas.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

birdsandbees

It was engineered for sales propaganda.  As for how it fails, now it's sell you a complete new panel vs straighten, fill, prime and paint. But the shop probably prefers that!.. if they can just find more guys that know the proper way to paint aluminum! Yes it's another art..
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

73rallye440magnum

Quote from: birdsandbees on November 28, 2015, 11:51:55 PM
It was engineered for sales propaganda.  As for how it fails, now it's sell you a complete new panel vs straighten, fill, prime and paint. But the shop probably prefers that!.. if they can just find more guys that know the proper way to paint aluminum! Yes it's another art..

Yes the shop definitely prefers replace. When I heard aluminum bodies my first concern was the failed collision body and paint repairs!

I don't regard a lighter aluminum body as sales propaganda. Hard to argue with better mileage and performance.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

Mike DC

            
The switch to aluminum bodies is entirely about MPG.  

We're talking about the weight of a V8 engine removed from the vehicle, in such a way that 95% of the customers won't miss it.  There isn't any other way to do that.



Ford isn't stupid and they aren't getting cheap.  They have spent a shit-ton of money on this switch.  Lighter weight bodies are the future of the auto industry.  Every other car company should be putting this much effort into new materials too, if they want to stay in business.  


GM & Mopar will point fingers & laugh at Ford's early failures with aluminum . . . right up until Ford has worked out enough of the bugs and govt MPG rules are rendering it necessary for everyone.  Then suddenly GM & Mopar will be scrambling to catch up.  

 

JB400

I don't see the hype about a torn bedside.  A person can easily tear a pop can in half.  The airplane industry knows all about aluminum tearing under stress.  This is no different.

Stevearino

I would ask how does the truck with a lightweight aluminum body perform when you are'nt  running into stuff.

garner7555

Ford trucks have had aluminum hoods since 1997.  Many other makes have too.  It's not as new as you guys think.  Ask any of us guys in the collision industry and you will find out aluminum isn't that uncommon.  Ford is just the first to go complete aluminum on a non-performance, mass produced domestic vehicle.   Be prepared,  it's the future. 
69 Charger 440 resto-mod

Mike DC

  
Don't the modern Challengers have aluminum hoods, too?

Stevearino

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 29, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
   
Don't the modern Challengers have aluminum hoods, too?

I don't know about the base models but the hood of my donor SRT-8 is aluminum.

Aero426

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 29, 2015, 02:55:20 AM
           
The switch to aluminum bodies is entirely about MPG.  

We're talking about the weight of a V8 engine removed from the vehicle, in such a way that 95% of the customers won't miss it.  There isn't any other way to do that.


This is exactly the reason it is happening.  

Now, the use of aluminum does NOT mean that repair costs, the need for special equipment and the complexity of the repair will go down.    Those costs will ultimately be passed along to consumers in the way of increased premiums.  

c00nhunterjoe


crj1968

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 29, 2015, 02:55:20 AM
           
 Then suddenly GM & Mopar will be scrambling to catch up.  
 

THIS ^

Hopefully they wont need tax payer money this time around.  GM and Fiat/Chrysler (whoever they are now) are darn lucky Ford isn't the only US automaker left.   :Twocents:

HANDM

My daughters first Cadillac (95 SLS) had an aluminum hood

stripedelete

GM, Ford, and FIAT have all approached MPG from different angles.  FIAT built a truck that squats.   GM went smaller (Colorado).   I wonder who will go all plastic first.

crj1968

Quote from: stripedelete on November 30, 2015, 06:54:47 PM
GM, Ford, and FIAT have all approached MPG from different angles.  FIAT built a truck that squats.   GM went smaller (Colorado).   I wonder who will go all plastic first.

Saturn (GM)

stripedelete

Quote from: crj1968 on November 30, 2015, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on November 30, 2015, 06:54:47 PM
GM, Ford, and FIAT have all approached MPG from different angles.  FIAT built a truck that squats.   GM went smaller (Colorado).   I wonder who will go all plastic first.

Saturn (GM)

...... with 1/2 ton trucks.