Chargers of Brazil

[Ghoste]

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[Ghoste]

Can anyone translate these?

[Ghoste]

One more.

[Ghoste]

Found a 72 ad as well, a bit smaller though.

[BSB67]

Looks like a modified 68 GTS

[charger chris]

was thinking the samething

[Daytona R/T SE]

Apparently...

Their goal was to take a Dart and make it uglier.

I didn't know that was possible.

[stripedelete]

...... and they succeeded.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I am feeling a bit disappointed after looking at this thread. Now I see why Dom, in Fast 5, brought his 70 Charger to Brazil. Showed the World 

[JR]

They look great to me. Especially compared to the American later year A bodies and 4th gen Chargers.












Now remember, while they were building those, we got these. Yeah, Brazil won that round.

[BSB67]

Their goal was to take a Dart and make it uglier.

I didn't know that was possible.

Now that was uncalled for.  Now my feelings are hurt.  I don't think there is anyway that the hurt and damage can be undone.

[JB400]

By first impressions, I wouldn't trade a 2nd gen for one.  I'd consider one over the American a body though.  I also think the Aussies and South Africans got the best of the 3 options though on the A body platform

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Apparently...

Their goal was to take a Dart and make it uglier.

I didn't know that was possible.

That right there is the quote of the day. 

[Daytona R/T SE]

Their goal was to take a Dart and make it uglier.

I didn't know that was possible.

Now that was uncalled for.  Now my feelings are hurt.  I don't think there is anyway that the hurt and damage can be undone.

Does somebody need a hug ?

[Daytona R/T SE]

Apparently...

Their goal was to take a Dart and make it uglier.

I didn't know that was possible.

That right there is the quote of the day. 

[djcarguy]

They look great to me. Especially compared to the American later year A bodies and 4th gen Chargers.












Now remember, while they were building those, we got these. Yeah, Brazil won that round.

 Have and or had bout 12 a bodys.mostly 68-73 darts an dusters.few 74-75 dart sports an darts swingers,still have.lov them DJ  

[fc7_plumcrazy]

brazil won really clearly

[djcarguy]

     

[marciosantri]

Today, Brazilian Chargers are very expensive (in Brazil, of course).
They are modified Darts. All 318. "A" body.
They made me fall in love with Dodge.

https://www.flatout.com.br/guia-de-compra-dodge-charger-rt-nacional/

[lucascosta21]

The history of Chargers in Brazil started at 1971, after Dodge lauches the new Dart coupe (2-doors no column) in 1970. In the end of that year, Dodge lauched the sport and more intimidate model of their line, the Charger. 1971 and 1972 the Charger came with one-piece grill. These models matching numbers in Brazil are the most value Charger. You can find them easily around R$ 150,000 (about US$50,000).

From 1973 to 1978, the Charger came with two-piece grill and these are the most popular models. In 1979 came the last generation that did not satisfy the fans and Dodge finished Charger´s production in 1980.

The body keeps the same. I believe Dodge inspired this body from US Darts with some little modifications. Between 73-78 you can recognize the year by the side stripes which changed every year.

From 10-15 years ago to now, Dodges in Brazil (particularly Charger and Dart) are becoming really desirable and due to this the prices is going up expressivelly.

For example, for a project Charger here you will pay around US$12-15,000 and for a pretty one around US$30-40,000. Our models are smaller than US models and the only engine available was the small block 318. Even so, it was the most powerful engine (in hp) produced in Brazil at that time. The most Chargers in Brazil were 4-speed.

It's difficult to compare Brazilian Chargers and US Chargers. The americans are extremelly more powerful, you produced more models and with more options to customize the car. You are living in an era with other monsters (Camaro, Mustang, Plymouth, Oldsmobile...) the competition was really intense and in high level. Here we have three musclacars in 70's: Dodge Charger, Ford Maverick (with a 302 V8) and Chevy Opala (with 6 cilinder engine).

However, despite the differences, Brazil market has felt the fuel crisis as US, so the golden years was between 70-74. After this, the sales of muscle cars started to fall untill OEMs finished their lines in beggining of 80's.

Anyway...Charger is a Charger, we are completelly crazy and proundy for our Chargers as the same way we, you and everyone is crazy for american Chargers. I have the opportunity to have a 1972 340 4-bbl Charger (american) and now I am bringing a 68 440 tha was my child dream.

I am not an expert but I hope I help you to know a little about our Chargers. And sorry to my friends in Brazil for any mistake in my words, as I say, I'm not an expert but a fan.

Thanks

Lucas

[richf]

I ran the top three ads through Google Translate, and it seems Google's Portuguese isn't up to par Because the second line sounds a little too rude for an ad!

Let's end this sport car (joke) game with less than 200 hp.

We want to talk to the few people in this country who can buy this car.

Let the imported cars come.

[onepunch]

I know this is an old thread, but man I really want one of these Brazilian RTs. They look so much better than the US Darts......

[ht4spd307]

Also imported to Australia they called them Valiant VG Mexican coupe with the longer sail panel and also the standard rear window we had what was called a Pacer

https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2007-melbourne-international-motorshow-auction/p5b1up8vz8b1af64/
https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/buyers-guide/1601/chrysler-vg-valiant-pacer-hardtop-1970-1971-buyers-guide

[Mike DC]

 

By first impressions, I wouldn't trade a 2nd gen for one.  I'd consider one over the American A-body though.

Agreed.  

I also think the Aussies and South Africans got the best of the 3 options though on the A body platform

Yep.   They had the best bodystyle + the hi-po straight 6 motor with Hemi heads.  

IMO Chrysler was stupid not to bring that thing up here.  In the gas crisis era they would have sold fine.  Look at the popularity of Datsun-Zs from that time.

[AKcharger]

I think they're kinda cool!

[Nacho-RT74]

there was one Brazilian Charger ( green )  being sold on eBay USA quite ago

[onepunch]

there was one Brazilian Charger ( green )  being sold on eBay USA quite ago

I didnt follow that listing at the time, but was told it went over 60 grand, but reserve not met. Ultimately sold to a collector in Brazil with a big warehouse and an even bigger wallet.

[Kern Dog]

There was a South American A body at the Spring Fling in Van Nuys a couple of years ago. Those extended C pillars and grille do look strange compared to the 67-76 A body cars I've seen for years.
I like seeing different stuff though. I wouldn't choose a Brazilian Charger for mine but I'd like to own one. I like the Brazilian Charger more than the Australian one.

[Nacho-RT74]

The extended C pillars began on Mexican Darts. Years later was used on Brazil for the Charger made there. If still a Dart maybe you saw a Mexican unit, so is NorthAmerica, not SouthAmerica

[HANDM]

The extended C pillars began on Mexican Darts. Years later was used on Brazil for the Charger made there. If still a Dart maybe you saw a Mexican unit, so is NorthAmerica, not SouthAmerica

The first time I went to Mazatlan almost thirty years ago, I saw quite a few darts withe the extended C pillar and was completely blown away by them.

I'd bet there's still a few down there stashed away

[Armudster]

 I am assisting on the first brazilian Charger that is going to the US to a lucky forum member, can't share much right now but I will create a new thread when the time is right, keep tuned for news. 

[Mike DC]

  
Did they tool up whole different quarter panel skins?  

It looks like that difference might be achievable with patch pieces added on.  And I'm guessing quite a few of those cars got vinyl tops.  

[Armudster]

It's a patch piece. All of them had vynil roofs, but some were special ordered without.

[Mike DC]

  
Interesting.  

Did they pull off that front end using the standard North American hood & fenders?  It looks possible.

[Nacho-RT74]

Fenders are maybe 70/71. Can't tell the hood? The one of the pic got GTS hood thought. I can't tell about each model year. Aren't 70/72 Valiants with header panel? So maybe they come from them.

Remember these Brazilian Chargers were made on 70s, so the 70/71 Fenders were already available ( you can see the side markers )

Note: the Mexican Darts with extended C pillars are 70s ones, while these Chargers are 67/69 quarter panels, so I guess yes, the extension must be a filler as mentioned.

[Armudster]

They used the standard US Fenders and Hood. Fenders are 67-69, Hood is a 68-69 GTS with 68 Hood trims. Yes, the Charger Grille fit the standard US Fenders/ hood.
here is what changed on BR Chargers:
- Grille surrounds
- Grille
- Headlight buckets
- Rear C Pillar Patch Panel
- Rear trunk finish panel trim with vynil center
- Taillights
- Side Stripes (different for each year)
- Gauge Panel
- Console top plate for 4 Speed
- Shifter
- Leather Bucket seats (we only had real leather)

A clone can be pulled off, even the Factory, back in the day could install a Charger Grille on your nice New Dart. A lot of those parts can be found today, some are cheap, some are more expensive, but the most difficult part to execute is the C Pillar  patch piece.

[Armudster]

Fenders are maybe 70/71. Can't tell the hood? The one of the pic got GTS hood thought. I can't tell about each model year. Aren't 70/72 Valiants with header panel? So maybe they come from them.

Remember these Brazilian Chargers were made on 70s, so the 70/71 Fenders were already available ( you can see the side markers )

Note: the Mexican Darts with extended C pillars are 70s ones, wh :flame:ile these Chargers are 67/69 quarter panels, so I guess yes, the extension must be a filler as mentioned.

Hey Nacho, how are you doing? Hopefully you are safe and good. It's been a while since we last interacted.

[Nacho-RT74]

Hey Nacho, how are you doing? Hopefully you are safe and good. It's been a while since we last interacted.

Well. I'm at this moment in Spain trying to stablish yet.