How Is This For Rare?

[Ghoste]

69 Hemi SE.

[AKcharger]

 

[UFO]

I wonder if there was a change done later in the model year to allow the hemi and SE pkgs to be built together. There is no mention of "not available" on this page.
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0019.jpg

The Canadian fast facts book does not mention anything about not being avail together. Was this a matter of dealer/purchaser pushing to get the car built?
The A04 on the tag is a question as that one is listed as not avail.
Hopefully the owner can/will post the broadcast sheet.

[Ghoste]

Its interesting for sure.  Scheduled build for November but ordered in September so in a sense, it's an early car.  Allegedly ordered as a W23 Charger too but of course well past the recall for ever getting them.

[charge69]

I, also, would like to see the build sheet for this Charger.  Don't recall ever seeing a SE version with a HEMI.  Certainly possible, though.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

pics of car?

[tan top]

hmmm  , A47  , SE package  & A04  radio group , both  not available with a Hemi 

[69 OUR/TEA]

repo fender tag ?

[Ghoste]

hmmm  , A47  , SE package  & A04  radio group , both  not available with a Hemi 

BUT... the Canadian order guide doesn't state those exclusions and this was a Canadian ordered car.   

[tan top]

hmmm  , A47  , SE package  & A04  radio group , both  not available with a Hemi 

BUT... the Canadian order guide doesn't state those exclusions and this was a Canadian ordered car.   

       could be right ,   204864  is a Canadian car as you say    , the list I have don't say where it was sold though ,   interesting  forsure   ,  i'm far from a expert  but !  would  it have a R22 code ? , even though it had a A04 package , 

[birdsandbees]

Definitely a repro tag.. no inspection stamps.. so he's not hiding that fact. Would, as others have said, be great to see a broadcast sheet to support it.

[6bblgt]

where was this found?  any other pics?

any documentation other than a reproduction fender tag would be great for a near-prefect-combination Charger "UNICORN"!

[Ghoste]

I've seen piles and piles and piles of tags without inspection stamps.  Sorry, but that's not an indicator.

[XS29LA47V21]

I've seen piles and piles and piles of tags without inspection stamps.  Sorry, but that's not an indicator.

That is one crisp nice fender tag...

[Ghoste]

And that "crisp" quality you describe is a suspicious thing.  A lot of paint on the codes but the rolled lips at the edges are very clean.

[472 R/T SE]

I've seen piles and piles and piles of tags without inspection stamps.  Sorry, but that's not an indicator.

That is one crisp nice fender tag...

I thought St. Louis was the only plant that stamped the tags.

[68pplcharger]

 

[Ghoste]

Popcorn here too.  Still waiting to see a broadcast sheet.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Don't see evidence of the "bent corner" from where they leave one screw in and bend up the tag to paint underneath it .

[birdsandbees]

I thought St. Louis was the only plant that stamped the tags.

Lynch Rd tags have inspection stamps. No bent corners either, they were hung during paint.

[UFO]

Don't see evidence of the "bent corner" from where they leave one screw in and bend up the tag to paint underneath it .

Can't always go by that. A lot of years ago I was not aware of the bend being "factory done" and tapped it flat before it was painted.

[bakerhillpins]

hmmm  , A47  , SE package  & A04  radio group , both  not available with a Hemi 

BUT... the Canadian order guide doesn't state those exclusions and this was a Canadian ordered car.   

Shouldn't it have the Y03 (or what ever it was) stamp for an export car then?

[ws23rt]

This thread is very interesting.

So we are looking at a picture of a tag posted. Our first conversation is about the car the tag represents.

Now the thread is mostly about the tag it's self.

Their has been much talk over time about making tags to fit a car that is being built. I get that idea from a clone building point of view.
So this just may be one of those cars. But now our conversation is about the tag and not the car.

I'm one of those that think nothing is wrong with having a tag made to match a clone car. But it should have an identifier of some kind as being so. In this case the condition of the tag might be the identifier.

Clone stuff is great. ----Fake stuff sucks for everyone but liars.

Either way we look at it we are doing a dance that comes from some kind of deception. Either this case or others.
The bottom line is buyers have a tough haul to share this hobby with those that feel comfortable living with a lie to perhaps make a dollar.

[Ghoste]

So true, I've been one of the biggest skeptics of all when it comes to this stuff and outspoken to the point that I've angered and offended some.  I'd like to see a sheet on this one as I've stated but overall I'm trying to play nice these days so the easily offended don't get easily angered. (at me that is  )

[ws23rt]

So true, I've been one of the biggest skeptics of all when it comes to this stuff and outspoken to the point that I've angered and offended some.  I'd like to see a sheet on this one as I've stated but overall I'm trying to play nice these days so the easily offended don't get easily angered. (at me that is  )

We all make statements when we post in public.  And we all have our own way of identifying our perspective. You are very familiar to me as a reader and I get why you posted that tag.

[hemi-hampton]

hmmm  , A47  , SE package  & A04  radio group , both  not available with a Hemi 

BUT... the Canadian order guide doesn't state those exclusions and this was a Canadian ordered car.   

Shouldn't it have the Y03 (or what ever it was) stamp for an export car then?

The letter B, First letter in V.O.N. tells it's a Canadian car. LEON.

[Dino]

Don't see evidence of the "bent corner" from where they leave one screw in and bend up the tag to paint underneath it .

Can't always go by that. A lot of years ago I was not aware of the bend being "factory done" and tapped it flat before it was painted.

I was aware and when I repainted mine a few months ago I straightened the corner because it looks better to me.  That said, I left a small trace of the bend there so it could be easily seen it was once bent.

[mpd659]

Doesn't XS indicate R/T on the fender tag?


Russ

[Ghoste]

Yes, XS means an RT.  The codes in question are for the SE package and the radio group, they were not supposed to be available with a Hemi engine.  If this car proves out, it will be the only one to date in the 69 Registry.  (which represents a very small snapshot of cars produced- seems like that needs to be pointed out all the time anymore)

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Plenty of pics here....

https://www.facebook.com/robin.mcqueen.965/media_set?set=a.10153315740586314.1073741959.565066313&type=3&comment_id=10153320103631314&notif_t=photo_album_reply

[Challenger340]

Plenty of pics here....

https://www.facebook.com/robin.mcqueen.965/media_set?set=a.10153315740586314.1073741959.565066313&type=3&comment_id=10153320103631314&notif_t=photo_album_reply

says "content not available" when I try ?

[Drache]

[Drache]

[Challenger340]

Well there you have it ?
The write up on the Car indicates only "44,000 original miles" when parked, where it sat until restored, so probably a good chance the Broadcast Sheet still exists ?
However,
funny no broadcast sheet photos ?
The guy is probably fairly knowledgeable about about the Car(most HEMI owners are ?), I would think he should be proud to display the B-Sheet as a "one of one"  if that's the case ?

[Magnumcharger]

I asked about getting a look at the broadcast sheet.
The owner stated that it was destroyed years back when the interior was removed. I'm assuming it was eaten by mice. He said all that remains of it is one corner.
I've asked to see the original order sheet, or window sticker.

I saw this car for the first time in June of 1980, as it was being driven on the street in Charlottetown, PEI.
It was the first Hemi car I'd seen "in the wild", and after it passed me, I did a quick u-turn and chased it until it stopped for gas.
I saw the Hemi tags on the door at that time, and asked to see the engine. When the hood was raised, I got to see what an original 426 Hemi engine looked like after 30,000+ miles and 11 years of driving: a big mess! It was greasy, dirty, and rusty! But all there! I got a look all over the car, and noticed the SE badges on the sail panels, the cracked leather seats and the woodgrain dash. My friend Lynn was with me, and he also owned a 1969 Charger at that time. He pointed out the obvious interior differences, such as the dash, seats, and other nuances, such as the lighting under the hood, and the hood mounted turn signals. I'll also mention the car's rear springs were sagging badly and the rear quarters were rusted out by this time.
After the owner filled up, he closed the hood and we thanked him for allowing us to see his car. As he pulled away from the station, he gave us an obligatory squeal of his tires, and a nice cloud of oily smoke from his exhaust!
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153315740586314.1073741959.565066313&type=1&l=6c97b2b88f
I wish I had taken pictures of the car back then.

[Ghoste]

Do you know if he had a fender tag reproduced or not?