IS IT TO LATE TO STOP THE WORLD CANCER (MIDDLE EAST TERRORISTS)?????????

[ws23rt]

 
The Federal govt is not going to do something about our borders/immigration just because of an ISIS threat.

A decade ago there were 3000 of us killed by domestic terrorists in single day.  We invaded two countries in the name of fighting it.  But that wasn't enough to make the govt lift a finger over the wide-open borders.



The Federal govt doesn't give a sh*t about threats to public safety.

Our border/immigration problems will be addressed as soon as it causes trouble for some big corporations.

I don't want to agree with you on this but it rings too true to be wrong.

Generally speaking the heads of big corporations got there because they took care of business.

It is a damn shame that the elected we hired to take care of our business seldom do the job they said they would do.

This topic is as old as politics.--Those that we want (And and are able) to help us are smart enough to make a living elsewhere.

[ws23rt]

The next few days will be interesting I think.  Calm cool heads need to have some serious discussions soon. 

I do hope for something of forward looking value to come out of this current news.

My pragmatic side tells me that every one will go to sleep and awake to new news that will divert to the next topic of the day. Yesterday will begin to fade without resolution.--It is the way of things--

[Mike DC]

I don't want to agree with you on this but it rings too true to be wrong.

Generally speaking the heads of big corporations got there because they took care of business.

It is a damn shame that the elected we hired to take care of our business seldom do the job they said they would do.

This topic is as old as politics.--Those that we want (And and are able) to help us are smart enough to make a living elsewhere.

Some research found that CEOs are the profession with the highest occurrence of psychopathic traits.  Not 'psycho' as in axe murderers, but rather clinical psychopathy - people who are purely self-interested & lack empathy for the hurt they inflict on others to get what they want.  (Being a psychopath isn't a Y/N question so much as shades of gray.  But research on the severe cases is identifying brain differences from the rest of us.)


Doing what it takes to get to the top is not necessarily anything to admire IMO.  It totally depends on the system and how they did it.  

Hitler & Stalin & Saddam Hussein all got to the top and remained there for years.  The US presidency is supposed to be an admirable position but we never admire anyone who gets there anymore.  

[XH29N0G]

I don't want to agree with you on this but it rings too true to be wrong.

Generally speaking the heads of big corporations got there because they took care of business.

It is a damn shame that the elected we hired to take care of our business seldom do the job they said they would do.

This topic is as old as politics.--Those that we want (And and are able) to help us are smart enough to make a living elsewhere.

Some research found that CEOs are the profession with the highest occurrence of psychopathic traits.  Not 'psycho' as in axe murderers, but rather clinical psychopathy - people who are purely self-interested & lack empathy for the hurt they inflict on others to get what they want.  (Being a psychopath isn't a Y/N question so much as shades of gray.  But research on the severe cases is identifying brain differences from the rest of us.)


Doing what it takes to get to the top is not necessarily anything to admire IMO.  It totally depends on the system and how they did it.  

Hitler & Stalin & Saddam Hussein all got to the top and remained there for years.  The US presidency is supposed to be an admirable position but we never admire anyone who gets there anymore.  

The other elephant in this discussion is business interests.  It has been there with the ME; it is there with govt; and it has been part of the reason govt has done what it has done in the ME for the past 50 years.  Big business looks out for itself and does a good job convincing us that it is in our best interests too.   

[skip68]

Looks like Russia is stepping up the attacks on Isis.  Russia doesn't care about civilian casualties as much as we do so that should eliminate more Isis rag heads.    Once we get most the main leaders the rest will fall.  Just like with Saddam and bin Laden.   Then we need to stay on top and keep searching for the smaller ones to keep them from starting a new terror group.   We can and will defeat these barbarians as long as we don't stop.   

[Old Moparz]

We just took out ISIS oil trucks, it was planned long before the Paris bombings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/middleeast/us-strikes-syria-oil.html?_r=0

[HPP]

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/obama-puts-u-s-on-fast-track-to-world-government/

Also an interesting read

So, what if the only way to eradicate the cancer is through the chemo-therapy of creating a global government that alters most independent countries into psuedo- socialist entities that feed the larger whole of policing the larger terror of IS country by country?

I vaguely recall from my high school civics class that my instructor saying that communism and republicism were ideals that could not be sustained with casual effort and we would eventually end up in a democratic/socialist hybrid society. I thought he was crazy, but I think he was right.

[XH29N0G]

One thought to put out there to see if others have hit on this.  The crusades and the importance of significant dates has been mentioned before.  I looked up the crusades and it appears they were started on a Nov 26 or 27 many years ago.    

[skip68]

   I don't know about that but apparently Isis is taking a pounding.     
Once we cut the head off the dragon the rest will fall.   

[XH29N0G]

Some of what I have read indicates they are looking for their end of times, and that involves them taking huge losses before a final battle.....  So for someone with that has that mindset  I don't know whether they would think it is all the way it should be happening.

[skip68]

I think you're right.   I've always said they were stupid because though their attacks are sickening it's only irritating.    Kinda like pin pricks.   All they're going to do is aggravated the world to a point that we all just destroy them.   Maybe that's what they want?    Makes no sense.   

[XH29N0G]

But I also think they are very dangerous and not to be underestimated. I am struck by how young they look.  The response is needed. 

[skip68]

I agree.  If something isn't done they may end up doing some severe damage to some country that is crippling.    We all agree that they don't have much power but at the same time we can't underestimate them because they may surprise us.   

[polywideblock]

am I the only one to notice the silence of Muslim leaders  world wide ,  where is the condemnation for this sick and vile act   

Australia's "grand mufti" is now under fire for refusing to condemn attack

  he went further trying to blame the attacks as retaliation for racist and  islamophobic feeling in the world community 

there really  is only one solution for these people   

going off skips original post .
if Islam/radical Muslims  is a cancer on the world ,could a tactical nuclear strike  be seen as the last gasp  chemo-therapy that the world needs   

[Mike DC]

 
There were local Muslim figures condemning the attacks in France.  

As for international figures, I dunno if any have come out against it.



Big organized religion does come with strong pressure to conform though, even for the leaders.  

How many Christian leaders & members in Kansas speak out against the idea that the world is only 6000 years old?  Plenty of people who don't literally believe/agree with something will continue to stick to the party line for the most part.  

[XH29N0G]

I should be more in touch with this, but I just read in the newspaper that Congress has not formally authorized the use of force against the Islamic State, and this was requested almost a year ago.  

[skip68]

Have you guys been watching those refugees?  You seeing the ones in the boats?   Widows & orphans?      
There are lots of women and children but I'm seeing mostly men and young men.   WTF?  
Some lady politician was saying this also the other day.  Lots of able bodied young men.   That's making me really nervous.   Especially when we keep hearing this sob story that these are women, widows and orphans.   I'm posting this picture again of the women, widows and orphans in New Orleans.   Something seems fishy to me.  Just do some searches and you'll see that others are saying the same thing.  

Supposedly the reason is the trip is harder for women and children.  Okay, I agree. So we want to take in these men that leave women and children behind?  
The other reason is the men are leaving the women and children in the refugee camps according to a woman refugee.  Okay.  So this is the kind we want to take in?   If they aren't loyal to their families that tells you how loyal they will be to America.  WTF?  
Isn't anybody monitoring this?    
What ever happened to women and children first?   We simply can't allow this.   We also know how they view women.  Women are inferior and we're hearing stories of rape in these camps.   These are the men we want in this country?   

[68pplcharger]

Map of states refusing Syrian refugees... This number was 24 last night. This map is from CNN

[beedees]

Let the "welcoming" states have them all, that way the rest of us won't have to worry about terrorists sneaking into our states. WeALL know how d*** hard it is to cross state borders here.

[68pplcharger]

Let the "welcoming" states have them all, that way the rest of us won't have to worry about terrorists sneaking into our states. WeALL know how d*** hard it is to cross state borders here.

Hopefully my state wakes up in the next couple of days... 

[sunfire69]

You know what really chokes me....Billionaire Richard Branson says please be tolerant and let the refugees in..."speaking to our governors ...
Seriously.   the dude has his own security force and the damn British army would be sent to his house if he asked....and he hasn't ridden in coach since god only knows when....he probably hasn't been in the "public" part of an airport in forever...unless it was for publicity....I have an idea, lets send them all to his estate....he can build them little condos in his back yard...how could any one person possibility be anymore elitist....I'm sure more rich and famous will follow suit...

http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/17/news/richard-branson-paris-refugees-syria/

[skip68]

This Chris George guy (executive director of IRIS) said on msnbc this morning that we are not taking any single men of combat age.   The refugees we take are mothers and fathers and children (families)        really?    I'm not buying it and don't care, I still say NO.  

[skip68]

It's easy for all that say let's let them in to say that because NONE of the people that are in favor will have these refugees living on their street or neighborhood.       

[Drache]

Time to stir the pot....

Maybe all these attacks are just revenge for the Crusades? 

[Ghoste]

Considerably more complex than that.