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Delusional Parts Sellers

Started by holanae, October 21, 2015, 02:35:07 PM

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holanae

I saw the delusional car sellers topic, but what about the delusional parts sellers.  As many before me, I'm trying to restore my charger but my peers are asking for a fortune for car parts.  I understand things are hard to find and demand sets price, but really.   For example, a guy on FB is selling a power steering pump assembly for 150.  You can get a rebuild kit for a fraction of that.  Me personally, I would let mine go way less than that if somebody needed it.  I have even canceled transactions on people who were buying parts I had just to turn around and mark them up for the next guy who actually needed them.  Although, I've had to hold back my frustration on a few parts and had to purchase them anyway despite the asking price. I've come across a few people that have been sympathetic to other peoples restoration projects and cut some slack on price, but that may be %20. 

It's rare to see restored mopars in a car show for the simple fact that it ridiculously expensive to get parts for them.  I sold a instrument bezel for $5 dollars, and the guy thought I was joking.  He asked if I new how much they were going for, and I said yes, but that I am not trying to screw over a person who is trying to resurrect these cars we all love.  He paid more for shipping than he did for the part.  LOL.  Why sell a fender for $900 when AMD sells them %20 percent less.  Not to include the %25 percent discounts that you can get on occasion with free ground shipping.  Ok, for the %10 of people looking for OEM, fine.  I get the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" statement, but dang.  Just saying, some of us do it to ourselves.

OK, off of my soap box now, and back to work to make more dollars to spend on these "hard to find" parts.




moparstuart

If you want a cheap car and cheap parts go buy a chevy   :Twocents:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

crj1968

Yeah it's not a hobby for the faint of heart that's for sure.  AMD is out for us 70 owners...so count your blessings there I guess.

I'm a little blown away by today's prices too sometimes (especially since being into it since the 80's) but that's the name of the game.

Kern Dog

Quote from: moparstuart on October 21, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
If you want a cheap car and cheap parts go buy a chevy   :Twocents:

No need to be a dick to the OP. He has a valid point. Plenty of Mopar swap guys are jerkoffs that think their stuff is gold. You see these assclowns with the same parts at 5 swap meets so you know they are asking way too much for their stuff.
I sell at swap meets and often sell what I have for the going rates from local self serve junkyards. Too bad i don't have a stash of 70 Charger fenders and valances. I'd be in tall cotton then!

ws23rt

Delusional parts sellers are a part of the market. They have their affect on the market like everyone else involved.
Everyone (it seems) feels sticker shock and complains.--This is how the market works--
The value of the dollar is what it is and changes as it does.

Asking prices are generally higher than selling prices. :shruggy:

When someone is miffed by a price --they need to move on. If a seller's price is too high they will not sell.

Ghoste

On the other end of it, some people make offers on parts like you are unloading worn out McDonalds toys at a yard sale. 

Dino

I understand asking money for parts that are rare and wanted. I don't like it because I realy want a spare wood grain wheel, an FM radio, and cruise control stuff but it's how it is.    :icon_smile_big:
What I can't stand is the people asking an arm and a leg for crap.  Stuff that should never be worth much.  I become especially annoyed when I see someone tryng to sell NOS parts as if they were made from pure gold.  Unfortunately what once were parts cars at best are now being sold at driver prices.  It's become ridiculous.

Maybe we should all chip in to buy an industrial 3D printer and make this stuff ourselves.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

don duick

HA you should see the asking prices of mopar parts in Australia  :rant:

A12 Superbee

Quote from: don duick on October 21, 2015, 11:30:23 PM
HA you should see the asking prices of mopar parts in Australia  :rant:

What Don said, it's ridiculous here in Australia. I paid $1700 for a 69 Coronet fender.....yes, $1700, not including shipping, why, well mainly because my insurance company was going to reimburse me and two because it was the best one of the two or three I found. This was via an Aussie parts supplier. Typical price was around $400-500 but there were none around at the time. Someone jacked up the price because all of us Aussies are rich apparently.... :shruggy:

You can import parts from the US, pay GST (10%) and still come in 50% cheaper than suppliers/sellers out here.

You've got it pretty good over there, believe me! :yesnod:
A12 Dodge Superbee Coupe 4 speed Car number 157 in the A12 Registry.
XBGT Ford Falcon sedan, same model as Max drives in The Roadwarrior, the yellow car he starts off in.
WANT: Triple black 68 or 70 Charger!

VegasCharger

Quote from: Ghoste on October 21, 2015, 09:22:10 PM
On the other end of it, some people make offers on parts like you are unloading worn out McDonalds toys at a yard sale. 

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Also what if a seller throws a Mopar vintage part on eBay and his or her starting bid is at market value. Then it's on the buyers after that. The buying audience will atone to what the top end dollar is on that particular item. Unless you have two or more bidders who really need that one hard to find part to finish their numbers matching Mopar muscle car. In that case that would result into an over inflated final price.

So sometimes it can be the fault of the buyers market.

Just sayin'  :shruggy: :Twocents:

Lord Warlock

Good thing you weren't looking for parts before the internet started, you'd have realized how prices spiked on pretty much everything, at least today you can find repro parts, and a lot of it while priced higher than I'm comfy with...considering I paid 800 for the whole charger in 78, I've easily spent that on trim pieces alone, or the interior seat kits from legendary, or the vinyl top.   Prices are always outrageous, you have to learn that you need to buy what you need most now, because it will only go up in price in the future.  Bite the bullet, get your parts, and be happy you found them.  Yes some sellers are delusional, but I see that more with people selling rusted out hulks that shouldn't be rebuilt, parts people don't know if the parts are good or not after sitting for decades. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

73rallye440magnum

Quote from: Dino on October 21, 2015, 09:40:30 PM

Maybe we should all chip in to buy an industrial 3D printer and make this stuff ourselves.

Then all we need is CAD software, solid modeler software, a rinse tank, a decent computer, and an engineer to design the parts.  :2thumbs:

WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

maxwellwedge

Quote from: moparstuart on October 21, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
If you want a cheap car and cheap parts go buy a chevy   :Twocents:

Nothing cheap over on the Chevy side either.......some stuff is worse.

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 22, 2015, 09:41:18 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on October 21, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
If you want a cheap car and cheap parts go buy a chevy   :Twocents:

Nothing cheap over on the Chevy side either.......some stuff is worse.

Maybe not a 1960s Chevy, but the latter model Camaros are pretty cheap to get parts for.  I can buy 10 reproduction fenders for my 1989 Iroc-Z for the price of one 1969 reproduction Charger fender....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: VegasCharger on October 22, 2015, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on October 21, 2015, 09:22:10 PM
On the other end of it, some people make offers on parts like you are unloading worn out McDonalds toys at a yard sale.  

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Also what if a seller throws a Mopar vintage part on eBay and his or her starting bid is at market value. Then it's on the buyers after that. The buying audience will atone to what the top end dollar is on that particular item. Unless you have two or more bidders who really need that one hard to find part to finish their numbers matching Mopar muscle car. In that case that would result into an over inflated final price.

So sometimes it can be the fault of the buyers market.

Just sayin'  :shruggy: :Twocents:

:2thumbs:  I also agree.  (We could start a disillusion buyers thread.)

A few years ago, I had a guy contact me about second generation Charger parts that he needed.  He heard about me via a mutual car collector who knew I had a few extra parts.  Seems he needed a 1970 Charger grille for his project and wanted to see if I had one.  I had a complete spare one (with the bumper and headlight parts still attached) sitting in storage that I did not need yet, so we went over and looked at it.  He was willing to go as high as $50 for it when we got there.

:eek2: :slap:  :brickwall:

Needless to say, he did not get to buy it.  He also wanted a good, rust/dent free drivers door and offered me $20 for one (with a complete mint door panel and arm rest).  No dice on that one either....

Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

VegasCharger

Quote from: Chad L. Magee on October 22, 2015, 10:55:35 AM
:2thumbs:  I also agree.  (We could start a disillusion buyers thread.)

A few years ago, I had a guy contact me about second generation Charger parts that he needed.  He heard about me via a mutual car collector who knew I had a few extra parts.  Seems he needed a 1970 Charger grille for his project and wanted to see if I had one.  I had a complete spare one (with the bumper and headlight parts still attached) sitting in storage that I did not need yet, so we went over and looked at it.  He was willing to go as high as $50 for it when we got there.

:eek2: :slap:  :brickwall:

Needless to say, he did not get to buy it.  He also wanted a good, rust/dent free drivers door and offered me $20 for one (with a complete mint door panel and arm rest).  No dice on that one either....

So actually there are two types of delusion Mopar parts buyers.

1. The one on an eBay auction out bidding it's competitor for an old Mopar part just because he/she has to have it and proud to say "I got it on eBay" :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

2. The guy who shows up with $50.00 to buy a $1000.00+ 1970 Charger front bumper/grille combo  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

Mike DC

  
Why in the hell would anyone want to overpay for something & brag about getting it on an Ebay auction?   That might be the stupidest idea I've heard all week.


Ghoste

Thats why they're delusional.  It does happen.

Stevearino

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 23, 2015, 07:14:56 AM
 
Why in the hell would anyone want to overpay for something & brag about getting it on an Ebay auction?   That might be the stupidest idea I've heard all week.



This seems to be a thing with overseas buyers of some American muscle. I know a guy who has shipped quite a few crush worthy hulls overseas through the Ebay process. He said it was fun to watch some guys from Saudi Arabia battle it out for the bragging rights to significant piles of iron oxide.

hemihead

Ghoste is right about the Ebay thing but I think is is more about the " Biggest Ego " thing . The way some guys have to have the biggest engine ,
the lowest production , the highest value , the lowest gear , the biggest carb , etc .
As far as parts prices go , everyone prices their own parts like it's Gold and their are no more left . But when buying they
cry and moan if they can't buy a $500 part for $30 , call you crazy , and tell you that YOUR part isn't worth crap .
Everyone in this hobby has a superiority attitude these days .
Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
Soul of a woman was created below
  Led Zeppelin

holanae

Funny you say that, I've printed a few parts on the 3d printer at work. 

Quote from: Dino on October 21, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
I understand asking money for parts that are rare and wanted. I don't like it because I realy want a spare wood grain wheel, an FM radio, and cruise control stuff but it's how it is.    :icon_smile_big:
What I can't stand is the people asking an arm and a leg for crap.  Stuff that should never be worth much.  I become especially annoyed when I see someone tryng to sell NOS parts as if they were made from pure gold.  Unfortunately what once were parts cars at best are now being sold at driver prices.  It's become ridiculous.

Maybe we should all chip in to buy an industrial 3D printer and make this stuff ourselves.