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Charger or challenger? Update!

Started by Tmb84, September 14, 2015, 05:41:17 AM

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Tmb84

Stupid question maybe, but i have an 70' charger 383 auto. Survivor.

Want one more! I now know about two decent cars, one 68 charger 383 4spd, number matching. 1 of 259!
Posted a picture of it before. The body is good but engine need some work soon. Blue smoke when revving..
It cost 35000$

The other is a 70' challenger 383 2bbl auto. Now with 496 stroker! Looking good.
http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=64300925&searchclickthrough=true

Challenger cost 32000$
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

1974dodgecharger


303 Mopar

You already have B Body, go for the E Body!
1968 Charger - 1970 Cuda - 1969 Sport Satellite Convertible

Troy

Love Challengers - but not that one. No way that car would be worth $32,000 here - but I know they're harder to come by over there.

And who doesn't love a 4-speed 68 Charger?

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Daytona R/T SE


303 Mopar

There are way nicer Challengers for sale for that price.  Check out Cuda-Challenger.com.
1968 Charger - 1970 Cuda - 1969 Sport Satellite Convertible

Troy

If he buys one in the US he has to get it shipped (to a port, over the ocean, to home) and pay import duties. So figure several thousand dollars on top of the purchase price.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Tmb84

Yeah, i know its not the nicest challenger, but its a original big block car and looks ok.
Not often to see mopars with strokers under 40000$ around here.

I would mount a shaker hood and a T/A spoiler at the rear. I think it would help alot!

Gonna look at it tomorrow.
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Tmb84 on September 14, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
Yeah, i know its not the nicest challenger, but its a original big block car and looks ok.
Not often to see mopars with strokers under 40000$ around here.

I would mount a shaker hood and a T/A spoiler at the rear. I think it would help alot!

Gonna look at it tomorrow.

Are those fiberglass bumpers?

They don't fit well at all.

What's a complete shaker hood set up cost ? $5,000-$6,000 ?

tan top

go for the 68 charger !!   ,  blue smoke when reving   , prolly worn bores & or rings  :yesnod:    may even be the valley tray not sealed up properly  :yesnod:

  in any case  no biggie , just get the motor rebuilt  ,   million time quicker than doing any kind on resto !   alternatively  , get a stroker 400 motor built   & dress it up to look like a stock 383  :yesnod:   & keep the # matching motor in a safe place  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

6spd68

My big question would be; do you think you can get 35K for that Challenger in a pinch?  Say something happened, and you had to move it quickly; would you get your cash back?

For those reasons, I'm more Charger inclined...  Not to mention, this is the Charger forum  :icon_smile_big: :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."

RallyeMike

QuoteStupid question maybe

:iagree:

The answer is obviously, C) Roadrunner.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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6spd68

Quote from: RallyeMike on September 14, 2015, 02:22:24 PM
QuoteStupid question maybe

:iagree:

The answer is obviously, C) Roadrunner.

Sorry to double post ...  But...   :haha:  :rofl:
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."

Tmb84

Shaker hood kit cost 2600$
It would be fun to have a street legal racer that keeping those mustang smallblock strokers in the dust  :icon_smile_big:
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

XH29N0G

I would go with your instincts.  If you are buying this to enjoy.  Choose the one you think you will enjoy more and then don't look back.  If it is for a different reason, choose accordingly.  
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

DeltaV

Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning. - Erwin Rommel

Tmb84

Car is restored in 2009, no rust or bubbles.. But the doors dont match correctly. I have seen that on many challengers!

The engine is insane! 632hp 660lbft. Rear axle is uppgraded and perhaps 100% locker. Tranny is also uppgraded and got 3200rpm stall. Ok to drive, but 3" exhaust and realy open mufflers its noisy as hell!
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

Tmb84

I ended up with the e-body. Pick it up tomorrow.. Thanks for inputs folks.
Im not gonna start a thread since it a e-body, but gonna post some pictures here.  :yesnod:
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

303 Mopar

Quote from: Tmb84 on September 18, 2015, 02:16:09 PM
I ended up with the e-body. Pick it up tomorrow.. Thanks for inputs folks.
Im not gonna start a thread since it a e-body, but gonna post some pictures here.  :yesnod:

Go introduce yourself over at cuda-challenger.com and post pics over there.  Its a great site with many helpful folks like here!
1968 Charger - 1970 Cuda - 1969 Sport Satellite Convertible

LUMI

i was looking for a E body too
but did not find one her in Finland that woud fit my budget
so i bought -68 SS 548CID Camaro with 5 speed Tremec
763HP and 701lbft  :rofl:

Tmb84

Some engine info if someone interested..

383 block, bored 0,60. 496 stroker kit, not sure what manufacture.
Edelbrock performer heads, 88cc chamber.
Comp cam, Xr286r mechanical roller
Stainless tube race headers
Holley dp 900cfm
11,5 compression.
3" exhaust
Holley electric fuel pump
Fuelcell and battery in trunk
Aluminium radiator, electric fan
Electric water pump
MSD pro billet ignition

632hp 5500rpm/ 660lbft 4000rpm

Gearbox: unknown, shifts hard on low rpms. Hurst promatic2 shifter.
Diff: 100% locker

70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

cavemanno1

Quote from: Tmb84 on September 14, 2015, 05:41:17 AM
Stupid question maybe, but i have an 70' charger 383 auto. Survivor.

Want one more! I now know about two decent cars, one 68 charger 383 4spd, number matching. 1 of 259!
Posted a picture of it before. The body is good but engine need some work soon. Blue smoke when revving..
It cost 35000$

The other is a 70' challenger 383 2bbl auto. Now with 496 stroker! Looking good.
http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=64300925&searchclickthrough=true

Challenger cost 32000$

Is it just me that thinks that '68 charger was a bit overpriced or is it a good deal in Finland?
By the way congrats on your challenger,post some pictures of her as well!

Tmb84

I paid 30000$ for the challenger by the way.
The owner of the charger wanted 37500$ at first!
70' Charger 383 -top banana
71' hemicuda Sox&Martin "tribute"

Ghoste

Those are some respectable numbers.

Challenger340

Quote from: Tmb84 on September 22, 2015, 09:59:41 AM
Some engine info if someone interested..

383 block, bored 0,60. 496 stroker kit, not sure what manufacture.
Edelbrock performer heads, 88cc chamber.
Comp cam, Xr286r mechanical roller
Stainless tube race headers
Holley dp 900cfm
11,5 compression.
3" exhaust
Holley electric fuel pump
Fuelcell and battery in trunk
Aluminium radiator, electric fan
Electric water pump
MSD pro billet ignition

632hp 5500rpm/ 660lbft 4000rpm

Gearbox: unknown, shifts hard on low rpms. Hurst promatic2 shifter.
Diff: 100% locker



Nice Power, BUT

just curious, is that an actual Engine Dyno Sheet ? from an actual Engine Dyno Session ?
or,
a computer program generated "simulation", or "prediction" ?

I have to ask because you started the run, loading the engine down at 2,000 rpm ?
and,
ran it to 11,000 ? rpm
just me....
but I ain't ever seen anybody do THAT on a real life actual Engine Dyno ? 
At least not without..... Connecting Rods pieces laying around everywhere ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !