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Pet Peeves of Looking at the Engine Compartments at Car Shows

Started by A383Wing, September 04, 2015, 01:07:03 AM

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A383Wing

While looking under the opened hoods of cars at shows, Mopar and other brands included, what are the things that jump out at you that makes you wonder how the owners of these cars tie their shoes in the morning?

A few of mine that I notice at most every car show are:

1) Those cheesy battery cable end clamps with the plate that has those two little 7/16" bolts for that strap that they put the stripped cable under

2) The use of a double groove alternator pulley on a non-AC car where only one belt is used and needed

3) People who leave those Gates or Goodyear radiator hose sticky brand tags on after the hose is installed

These are a few of mine.....what makes you shake your head when you look at other cars?

Mytur Binsdirti

I can overlook #2, but what I don't get are those who don't paint the to the left and right of the radiator flat black. For crissakes, a rattle can of flat black is only 6 bucks.

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Daytona R/T SE

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Ghoste

And the puny GM brake booster too.  Also hate the ribbed universal style rad hoses and the plastic convoluted tubing for stuffing the wiring in. Basically I just like a nice stock looking engine bay.

HPP


ODZKing

I'm guilty of #1 myself. Only because I can't find a correct positive cable for the 67.

But what bothers me is chrome ... everything chrome. I have even seen a factory air cleaner chrome.   :eek2:

RallyeMike

It depends on the car and the budget of the build. I can get by on the spray-bomb paint and cheap flex hoses if the rest of the car is a super budget project too. Most things are forgivable except when shoddy things are done to an otherwise nice car.  The one that I can't get over on any car is a cheap braided hose cover up kit that appears to have been installed by a monkey.

Other than that, there is no excuse for safety stuff:

1) Lack of battery hold-down.
2) Leaky coolant systems.
3) Wiring with frays, bad routing, crappy crimps.
4) Poor fuel routing with crappy hoses and connections.

Keep it moving, keep it from going up in flames, and protect people pets from lapping up your coolant.


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Troy

And this is why I rarely go to shows and, if I do, why I don't open the hood. I drive my cars and I don't really care if the engine compartment looks 100% factory - as long as stuff works (and the factory stuff is usually what I fight with so I chuck it). The black out behind the radiator does drive me nuts if it's missing though. None of my cars have new paint so the original stuff may still be there and peeling. I have actually had judges track me down to get me to open the hood and I just tell them to pretend it's really bad and give me 0 points. I have no interest in dragging home a trophy and, if I'm at a show, it's either because I felt like supporting a charity or didn't feel like walking from the spectator parking.

Not to mention, pictures of cars with everything open kinda suck so I'd usually prefer things closed up.

I'm not a fan of chrome and braided hoses. It mostly looks cheap. But hey, not my car - not my money.

My dad drove these cars when new and hardly anything remained stock past the 1st summer. The only time non-original stuff looks out of place is on a "restored" car. A car that's half modified has no business looking stock under the hood.

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Ghoste

Yes, yes I agree with all of that too Mike.  And I am guilty of some of my peeves, I have that disgusting little GM brake booster and master cylinder in my car right now (which is why I refuse to open the hood at shows).

68X426


The most obvious violation is a Chevy motor in a Mopar.  Hurts my eyes every time.

Then it's the chrome.  Some is ok.  Otherwise it hurts.






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WHITE AND RED 69

I know the stock guys will hate me for this but I can't stand the half painted negative battery cable. I know that's how the factory did it but it looks half ass'd to me.

Also random color spark plug wires and heater hoses that don't match.

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MoparRocks

I'd say sloppy looking wiring is my biggest pet peeve in general. I hate it on my vehicles so that should translate over. Wires should either be completely hidden from view whenever possible or at least run neatly and yes, contained in some form of covering. I prefer the braided covering to the plastic split tubing but that's not always practical as that stuff has to be put on prior to plugs and such being installed on the ends of the wire. I really can't stand wiring that's all wrapped up and bundled in electrical tape. It looks horrible, the tape always works loose and leaves some just kind of hanging there looking sloppy.

And yeah I'm not a huge fan of chrome either. A little bit here and there can look great, but like anything else, moderation is key.
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reworked

I must be too easy lol....I look at the cars I like and if its not 100% I don't care.....If the owner is happy then I am happy...I hate when people judge cars like that, most that comment don't even have a car!.......who am I to judge  :shruggy:
Mine will never be 100% and I am very happy

Indygenerallee

too much junk.... as in mirrors, placards telling everyone how bad ass their car (or truck) is, a diecast version of their vehicle sitting on the air cleaner, stuffed animals, and any other non sense that does nothing but distract you from the ACTUAL vehicle!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Mike DC

 
IMO the entire trend of worrying about how the engine bay looks has been taken too far in general.  It's one thing to have the sheetmetal & engine painted the right color, but it's another when people buff & polish everything, hide plumbing behind fenderwells, etc. 


It's nice to have a house with a clean bathroom.  But I wouldn't block access to the sink plumbing, and store all the under-cabinet products somewhere else, all for the sake of making the inside of that under-sink cabinet look better.  The room is supposed to look good with the cabinet shut.  The cabinet access is for utilitarian purposes. 

ITSA426

I don't know if I'm missing something but not all Mopars had the front of the core support painted flat black next to the radiators.  It was usually done on the lighter colors but not so much on the dark colors where it wouldn't stand out through the he grille.  Dark greens, and blues and black cars rarely got painted.  Rarely is not the same as never.  Ma Mopar didn't spend money, or time, foolishly on building these cars.

I don't like looking at screw type aftermarket radiator hose clamps or two different colors of heater hose, but some cars are on a tight budget.  Some cars are just kept roadworthy.  I'm just glad to see the on the road.

303 Mopar

Quote from: reworked on September 04, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
I hate when people judge cars like that, most that comment don't even have a car!.......who am I to judge  :shruggy:
Mine will never be 100% and I am very happy

:iagree:  People think they know everything, throwing out statistics or commenting on crap they have no idea what they are talking about.  I love to walk up on someone criticizing my car and say, "Lets go look at your car."  
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Old Moparz

Engine compartments are no big deal to me but I'll look it over if the hood is up to see the time & effort they may have put into it. The only thing that jumps out at me is when someone goes through all that effort to clean it, add chrome, repaint things, detail the hell out of it, but then have a shitload of stainless threads sticking out from the hose clamps on a braided hose that looks like a wrinkled sweat sock that was left in the clothes dryer.  :smilielol:
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Chargen69

actually yes it runs.  the wires are as hidden as we could get them.  if you look close enough, below the alt above the aircompressor, you should see a small bundle of black wires. we went with a Painless wire harness for my car and ran the biggest bundle under the inner fender and attached it high up on the j clips from the bolts that hold the fender to the inner fender.


I am getting a video up on youtube now, once it is up I'll post it

Kern Dog

I may cover some stuff others have already mentioned, but here goes:
While I am not a purist, I like a stock appearance on some cars. A full custom sorta gets a pass on some things if the car has a "theme" that sometimes deviates from stock.

B L A C K engine bays in a car that is not black.
B L A C K inside trunk or on the underbody when the car is any other color.
Plastic corrugated tubing for the wiring. Sorry, but I just do not like it.
Dirty or messy looking wiring harnesses.
UNblacked out radiator yokes on light colored cars. For awhile after mine was painted, I left it red there. In dark conditions, it looked fine. In flash photography, the grille got lost in the aluminum radiator, trans cooler and red radiator/core support. I painted mine black and really like the way the grille stands out, like it should.
Paint on the washers, nuts and threads of the front shocks (From painting the engine bay without unbolting the shocks.)
Cheap square parts store radiator overflow jugs.
Flex hoses for the radiator.
Mirrors on the undersides of the hood.
Murals on the air cleaner (Or engine cover like with newer HEMI cars)
Poorly executed ducting to dual snorkle air cleaners.
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Now, some stuff I like to see:

Cast aluminum valve covers of almost any brand.
Cast aluminum air cleaners.
Factory wrinkle finish air cleaners.
Aluminum radiators.
Aluminum engine parts left natural finish.
Aluminum engine parts painted to appear factory stock.
Well thought out aftermarket A/C systems with properly routed hoses and lines, as to NOT look cluttered.
Aftermarket EFI that appears like a carburetor.

ws23rt


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This one should trip your trigger. The year is 1978.

Blue velvet lined engine compartment is furnished with a 383 ci. Chrysler wedge which does the job rather nicely, especially considering that it's stuffed with goodies like twin Holley 600's a Weiand Tunnel Ram manifold, Cyclone headers and a Ramcharger cam.
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myk

Quote from: RECHRGD on September 04, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
Lovely, but does it run?  Where's the wiring?

Good question.  I thought plug wires are supposed to be kept apart from one another? 

A383Wing

that was true with the old OE style wires from the 60's & 70's.....today's wires are much better quality and insulated better arcing to the outside of the wire to ground or another wire

JB400

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myk

Quote from: A383Wing on September 04, 2015, 11:58:09 PM
that was true with the old OE style wires from the 60's & 70's.....today's wires are much better quality and insulated better arcing to the outside of the wire to ground or another wire

So I don't need to have this acres wide wiring arrangement that looks like a modern freeway system?  Good to know....

Chargen69

Quote from: myk on September 04, 2015, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: RECHRGD on September 04, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
Lovely, but does it run?  Where's the wiring?

Good question.  I thought plug wires are supposed to be kept apart from one another? 

I bought the best wires I could, not the cheapest,

and I'd say it runs.

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67440chrg

Chargen69 your engine compartment looks great to me. I have had more chrome in the past but now have only a little. My car is a budget build but at a lot of shows or cruises most people act like Because they have lots to spend then everyone should. I even took a pair of blue anodized Mopar stamped valve covers and a old torker II intake and painted them HEMI orange and have had several ask where I got them. If some one keeps it clean and uncluttered it means a lot to me.

67440chrg

Chargen69 your engine compartment looks great to me. I have had more chrome in the past but now have only a little. My car is a budget build but at a lot of shows or cruises most people act like Because they have lots to spend then everyone should. I even took a pair of blue anodized Mopar stamped valve covers and a old torker II intake and painted them HEMI orange and have had several ask where I got them. If some one keeps it clean and uncluttered it means a lot to me.

Chargen69

i agree about the chrome.  it is easy to bolt on a bunch of chrome, but we have a lot more thought put into mine i think

Mopar Nut

The only engine compartments I don't like are GM and Fords, if it's a Mopar and safe to drive, it top notch.  
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1974dodgecharger

I park my car across the street from a car show and people still walk over to freakin judge it  :brickwall: WTF.  Im even handed a score card on my window about how horrible my engine bay is  :shruggy:

wingcar

Number one.....ribbed universal style radiator hoses
Number two.....Too Much Chrome...(Knew a guy that had a really nice 440-6bbl RoadRunner and he detailed the daylights out of the engine compartment.....however, all the details were lost in a see of chrome.  Your eyes couldn't focus on anything...what a waste of time and money)
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HPP

I don't see any chrome in that engine bay. There is a  lot of aluminum though.

myk

Quote from: wingcar on September 08, 2015, 07:56:26 AM
Number one.....ribbed universal style radiator hoses
Number two.....Too Much Chrome...(Knew a guy that had a really nice 440-6bbl RoadRunner and he detailed the daylights out of the engine compartment.....however, all the details were lost in a see of chrome.  Your eyes couldn't focus on anything...what a waste of time and money)

I remember reading a story in a mag about a Daytona that had an obscene amount of chrome on it; engine bay and suspension too.  What a waste of a good car. 

In any case, I hate seeing dolls and toys hanging out of engine bays and cars in general.  I mean, WTF?  What does all of that mean? 

el dub

I don't get the dolls and such either mike, maybe its the ol lady
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GOTWING

I never understood why anyone would paint the engine compartment black whether it was back in the day or recent. the one aircleaner I hate is the Mopar performance one that is black with the fins on it. Also when a Plymouth has a 440 magnum etc pie pan and a dodge will have a super commando pan etc.  :RantExplode: 

Kern Dog

"In any case, I hate seeing dolls and toys hanging out of engine bays and cars in general.  I mean, WTF?  What does all of that mean? "

:rofl:

Absolutely. Those stupid dolls have no purpose whatsoever. They are often placed against a car with their arms up and their faces hidden in their arms. Are they supposed to invoke shame? The dolls are embarrassed at the quality of the restoration or the money spent on it ?
The big Road Runner or Coyote dolls probably annoy some people but I actually like them. They remind me of what a Plymouth dealer may have had as a display in the showrooms from 68-74.

ws23rt

I've never been to a big car show that has many of what I know something about (mopars).
Been to a few roadster shows though where the gleam of chrome and mirrors tends to blur my vision after a few. I end up not looking at them all because of this.

What I do enjoy is local cruise-in kinda stuff.  Anyone that is moved to bring something they have, shows pride in their car on some level. And I seldom know what it right or wrong. I just like to ask questions and learn new stuff.

When a mopar is present at one of these small events I still tend to ask questions rather then try to explain what I think is correct or not. After all I am there to enjoy the show not judge the cars.

Their is always much to be appreciated in front of me and I don't want to spoil a fun day out (by being one of those guy's) for the car owner as well as bystanders.  

As for my cars at a cruise-in?  I don't stay by the car much as I'm looking at the other cars-- but will come up to eaves drop sometimes and help out. --- For example you can get head covers for a small block chevy to make it look like a Hemi. ---:slap: That will be a conversation starter for many. :icon_smile_wink:

dual fours

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on September 08, 2015, 04:50:22 AM
I park my car across the street from a car show and people still walk over to freakin judge it  :brickwall: WTF.  Im even handed a score card on my window about how horrible my engine bay is  :shruggy:

Hey, if they are not giving you money to invest in your car and your not even in the event, don't pay any mind to the judges or spectators, except if you want constructive criticism so you may make corrections at a later date as funds are approved, then this is always helpful.
When your parked across the street from the event is your hood down? With the hood being closed, THAT MEANS, THE ENGINE BAY IS OFF LIMITS.
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myk

Quote from: Kern Dog on September 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
"In any case, I hate seeing dolls and toys hanging out of engine bays and cars in general.  I mean, WTF?  What does all of that mean? "

:rofl:

Absolutely. Those stupid dolls have no purpose whatsoever. They are often placed against a car with their arms up and their faces hidden in their arms. Are they supposed to invoke shame? The dolls are embarrassed at the quality of the restoration or the money spent on it ?
The big Road Runner or Coyote dolls probably annoy some people but I actually like them. They remind me of what a Plymouth dealer may have had as a display in the showrooms from 68-74.

Did other brand car makers put dolls and toys in their showroom car displays as well, back in the day?


68pplcharger

Quote from: charger Downunder on September 04, 2015, 06:58:46 AM
Painted black engine bay

Lol that was the factory engine bay color for many GM's hard not to have that if it's stock

six-tee-nine

I hate it when engines have enough plug wires hanging onto them to wire 3 engines. Jesus you can shorthen these fairly easy.
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Quote from: myk on September 08, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: wingcar on September 08, 2015, 07:56:26 AM
Number one.....ribbed universal style radiator hoses
Number two.....Too Much Chrome...(Knew a guy that had a really nice 440-6bbl RoadRunner and he detailed the daylights out of the engine compartment.....however, all the details were lost in a see of chrome.  Your eyes couldn't focus on anything...what a waste of time and money)

I remember reading a story in a mag about a Daytona that had an obscene amount of chrome on it; engine bay and suspension too.  What a waste of a good car. 

In any case, I hate seeing dolls and toys hanging out of engine bays and cars in general.  I mean, WTF?  What does all of that mean? 

     I remember that Daytona and it was some shade of red. ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that was bolted on was chromed and that is no exaggeration.
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myk

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on September 09, 2015, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: myk on September 08, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: wingcar on September 08, 2015, 07:56:26 AM
Number one.....ribbed universal style radiator hoses
Number two.....Too Much Chrome...(Knew a guy that had a really nice 440-6bbl RoadRunner and he detailed the daylights out of the engine compartment.....however, all the details were lost in a see of chrome.  Your eyes couldn't focus on anything...what a waste of time and money)

I remember reading a story in a mag about a Daytona that had an obscene amount of chrome on it; engine bay and suspension too.  What a waste of a good car. 

In any case, I hate seeing dolls and toys hanging out of engine bays and cars in general.  I mean, WTF?  What does all of that mean? 

     I remember that Daytona and it was some shade of red. ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that was bolted on was chromed and that is no exaggeration.

Right?  I wonder what happened to that car....

c00nhunterjoe

Oh man, i hope you guys never look under my hood.... lol

Kern Dog

I don't think that any other car dealers used stuffed dolls in the showrooms. The Road Runner cartoon was an excellent marketing tool that Plymouth latched onto. I can't recall any other cartoons that GM or Ford was associated with. Ford did build some ugly econoboxes that could have been marketed as SpongeBob, Square car.

A383Wing

Quote from: Kern Dog on September 09, 2015, 08:55:39 PM
ugly econoboxes that could have been marketed as SpongeBob, Square car.

Pontiac Aztec comes to mind

8WHEELER

Quote from: A383Wing on September 09, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 09, 2015, 08:55:39 PM
ugly econoboxes that could have been marketed as SpongeBob, Square car.

Pontiac Aztec comes to mind


This is why Bryan never opens the hoods on his cars, he does not want to hear '' hey this is not factory correct''. He wants to get to point A to point B, without needing a tow truck.

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myk

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on September 09, 2015, 07:56:31 PM
Oh man, i hope you guys never look under my hood.... lol

Me neither.  The black engine bay and dark blue plug wires alone would give some of these guys a seizure lol...

Back N Black

I don't like the yellow/blue crimp connectors. Take the time and solder the connectors so it looks somewhat correct. :slap:

keith88

Some of you are not going to like mine..But i do. What i don't like are dirty engines compartments, one could at least get the dirt off. :shruggy:


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Mopar Nut

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talladegaowner

How about a nicely detailed engine and engine compartment with a generic battery?
Then there are plumber clamps rather than repro clamps, which don't cost a lot.
Chrome where it doesn't belong.
Electronic ignition modules in cars trying to look restored to stock.
"Fitzall" hoses and belts.
Electric fans in 60s cars.
No decals, which are very affordable.
Over spray where it does not belong.
Purple or red ignition wires.
Braided hoses.
Generic radiator caps.


keith88

Quote from: talladegaowner on September 22, 2015, 11:54:49 PM
How about a nicely detailed engine and engine compartment with a generic battery?
Then there are plumber clamps rather than repro clamps, which don't cost a lot.
Chrome where it doesn't belong.
Electronic ignition modules in cars trying to look restored to stock.
"Fitzall" hoses and belts.
Electric fans in 60s cars.
No decals, which are very affordable.
Over spray where it does not belong.
Purple or red ignition wires.
Braided hoses.
Generic radiator caps.


You must hate mine than, I have few of those. :nana:
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

talladegaowner

No, keith88, I don't hate any car. I'm basing my comment on the cars I've seen at judged events
where car owners are trying to earn a trophy or plaque and overlook the small stuff. Some of these
folks complain when the judges don't recognize their cars.
My point? A few small details at very little cost adds up to big rewards if a car owner is seeking a trophy.

PS-I like your car a lot. It looks well kept and the General Lee touches fit the era your car is from.
Keep up the nice work.    Mike


keith88

Thank you i was just kidding anyway... everyone has there own things that they like or think there important to them, really depends how much your a stickler you are for completely stock or not. I'm good just as long as it looks nice and kept clean. But i do know what your talking about. I just won my 1st trophy with this car this past Sunday and it wasn't expected. :cheers: :2thumbs:
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

talladegaowner

As I looked through your pics, I did notice your glass trophy reads "top 25".

Congratulations!

ODZKing

I agree Talladega, and let me go one step further.
I have always maintained that "it's your car to do what you like with". So if it looks good to you, that is what is important.
I personally, am not interested in trophies, I have lots. I've proven I can win them, so most of the time we park our 2 cars in non-judged together.
That being said, seems to me that it is not fair when a car that is near factory correct gets parked in a "factory" class with a car that has items (previously mentioned) and gets judged as an equal, and worse yet WINS!  I call it the "ooh, shiny" syndrome, that is all some judges (used loosely) see!
Not to pick on your car Keith but since it is near the top here, your engine bay is beautiful. Neatly done, clean ... it's awesome for a modified class.
On the other hand if it is a all car show and it's favorite fifty or forty etc., no reason a clean well kept vehicle such as yours shouldn't be recognized.
Just my take on the thing, I'm sure some may disagree.   :popcrn:

keith88

Yea i know what your saying i used to go to a show once a week all season back 10-15 years ago with a camaro that i owned at the time and won my fair share but i did run into people who really would complain about stock with non-stock and the such. And than you have the peoples choice ones that basically work on who has the most friends at the show. Now i just do cruises for the most part and this show that i used to go to all the time but never got any thing, it has changed since i was there last several years ago they used to have classes know they do a best of show than the top 25 cars there i was lucky to be one out of over 300 that showed.
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

talladegaowner

I agree with you both. Especially the "it's your car". If a car owner wants to change the color
that's his prerogative. I changed the wheels and tires from stock. I don't go to what I call 'purists' car
shows. I like cruises as well. Meeting with friends, old and new with like interests are the best part
of the hobby, besides enjoying my car at these outings. My car has been in my family since new and I've owned
it for 30 years this month (9/15).

If I earn a trophy, that's the icing on the cake. Win, lose or draw I try to enjoy myself as much as possible.
I'll also invite people with cars in my class to join me at car shows with their cars.

John_Kunkel

Quote from: ODZKing on September 23, 2015, 10:06:27 AM
I have always maintained that "it's your car to do what you like with". So if it looks good to you, that is what is important.

A good philosophy but don't be surprised if you get comments about originality and taste.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

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Quote from: John_Kunkel on September 23, 2015, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: ODZKing on September 23, 2015, 10:06:27 AM
I have always maintained that "it's your car to do what you like with". So if it looks good to you, that is what is important.

A good philosophy but don't be surprised if you get comments about originality and taste.

    that's true   :yesnod:




 think its up to the individual , on how they want to organise & dress up or down their engine compartment  etc  what ever makes them happy , each to their own , we all have different tastes  :scratchchin:

,  what peeves !  well not sure that's the correct word for me , but when I see  glass or plastic fuel  filters , long lengths of rubber fuel hose , wiring hanging all over the place not tapped up & or wrapped in a harness , yards of it draped all over the engine bay ,   poorly done terminals & connections  etc , think its crazy /dangerous / fire hazard /  risking your charger or ... going up in flames  , or wonder why mopar  or chebby or ford etc  has electrical problems etc

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

talladegaowner

There will always be people who can't accept what you've done to your car. They don't count.
I admire a car no matter the make or year. I still look at the cars from the 40s and older.
That's where it all began.

Ghoste

The thread wasn't about what should be law though, just what your personal pet peeves were.  I listed mine knowing there are lots of cars that belong to members here that fell into those categories.  My opinion isn't right, its just what bugs me as an individual.

Lord Warlock

I like braided lines, if done well, not crazy about my own right now but that is because not all of them have the correct ends put on, like on the heater hoses, and I've got some weird looking clamps back there, plan on getting stock ring clamps to hold them on, just haven't done it yet. 

Have to understand, some of us are building the car the way we remember it was when we first got it, or are making modifications that we wanted to do back in its heyday and couldn't afford to do so then, and we can now, so we are doing the engine bay up a little.  My bay can look stockish with the pie pan air breather on, or it can look modified if I use the edelbrock triangular one with the foam top. I used to use the triangle shaped one in the 70s, do I put one on the car...for now.  Went a little overboard on braided lines though, spark plug wires are braided, radiator hose (upper) has a braided sleeve on it, heater hoses are all real braided hoses, vacuum lines in grill area for headlights are braided. some vacuum lines in engine bay is braided too.  Edelbrock 750 is polished, and just put in a chrome alternator and ordered a firecore polished distributor.  I may have gone overboard on shiny, but when I grew up and went to car shows of model A's and B's and 50s cars, chrome was in and ever popular, kind of made an impression with me. 
Engine bay is one of only a few areas where the stock look is obviously not correct.  17 inch magnum 500s are a giveaway also, but couldn't fit 335 drag radials on 6 inch rims. interior is stock looking, exterior is stock looking, but open engine bay and it aint stock.

Plan on doing same thing with my 2010 challenger, for xmas this year it looks like i'll be having a KB  blower installed on the 5.7 to bring it up to 392 power levels. Without investing in a new car.  Could be black case which would go well with the yellow paint, but plan on paying 600 extra for polished...the 5.7 needs some bling in the engine bay. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.