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Started by tan top, August 22, 2015, 03:01:49 PM

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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myk

Very cool car, and I love the Fast and Fuious franchise, but I would NEVER take that car anywhere until the rat motor and fake blower were taken off of it.  That's just plain embarrassing IMO...

JB400

Creative way of mounting the blower

cincyboy

I agree a huge fan (even after 4 but don't tell anyone) but you could build 4 of those cars for that amount with a Chevy drivetrain.  :eek2:


Baldwinvette77

it was watching them tbone a charger in the 5th movie that made me want to get one, after i saw the behind the scenes of what they typically start with i found one in similar condition  :popcrn:

Kern Dog

Quote from: myk on August 22, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Very cool car, and I love the Fast and Fuious franchise, but I would NEVER take that car anywhere until the rat motor and fake blower were taken off of it.  That's just plain embarrassing IMO...

:smilielol:

Funny how Myk and I feel the same way most of the time.This guy is somehow linked into my brain.
Hey Myk...what number am I thinking of right now?

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: myk on August 22, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Very cool car, and I love the Fast and Fuious franchise, but I would NEVER take that car anywhere until the rat motor and fake blower were taken off of it.  That's just plain embarrassing IMO...

While I agree with you in principle, as a point of record, it's a "Mouse Motor" and not a "Rat Motor".    Mouse = small block. Rat = Big Block.  :Twocents:

myk

Quote from: Kern Dog on August 22, 2015, 09:01:06 PM
Quote from: myk on August 22, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Very cool car, and I love the Fast and Fuious franchise, but I would NEVER take that car anywhere until the rat motor and fake blower were taken off of it.  That's just plain embarrassing IMO...

:smilielol:

Funny how Myk and I feel the same way most of the time.This guy is somehow linked into my brain.
Hey Myk...what number am I thinking of right now?

36DD

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on August 23, 2015, 08:43:21 AM
Quote from: myk on August 22, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Very cool car, and I love the Fast and Fuious franchise, but I would NEVER take that car anywhere until the rat motor and fake blower were taken off of it.  That's just plain embarrassing IMO...

While I agree with you in principle, as a point of record, it's a "Mouse Motor" and not a "Rat Motor".    Mouse = small block. Rat = Big Block.  :Twocents:

I honestly didn't know that!

Mike DC

 
Is that in reference to which rodent's turds you usually find inside? 


Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 23, 2015, 10:02:28 AM
 
Is that in reference to which rodent's turds you usually find inside? 




Jesus... If thats the case, i really don't look forward to finding a 426 "elephant" motor  :puke:

XS29L9Bxxxxxx



JR

That one is really nicely detailed for a stunt car. I wonder if the carpet and trim was put in afterwards. I wasn't expecting door panels, carpeting, nice paint, etc.

The guy behind the shop building these said they've been using fiberglass fenders and hoods since the 4th movie, I wonder if this has a set. Fitment looks pretty good for fiberglass if so.

I have to say, I'd love to own it.
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

Baldwinvette77

so.. Can anyone explain the bigass turn signal switch?  :scratchchin:

1974dodgecharger


Mike DC

                                                  
                                             
That car has been redone since it was filmed.  Paint, interior, etc.  They kept the idea of the movie appearance but some details are nicer.



I dunno if that front end is fiberglass or not.  

I recall the F&F car supplier guy once saying he was very pleased with the fit of the 'glass panels they were using.  On the other hand this car has a chrome front bumper.  The painted front bumpers started showing up around the same time they started using 'glass.  


They've gone back and forth on the Charger's details a bunch of times in the last several movies.  The whole car alternates between flat & glossy.  In the 5th movie it even had a flat hood without any blower sticking up.  

MoparRocks

Take that bow tie engine out of it for a Mopar motor and I'd rock that for sure. There's just something wrong with putting a Chevy engine in a Mopar though.
1971 Charger Richard Petty tribute
Mopar 340 three on the tree

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: MoparRocks on August 25, 2015, 09:29:44 PM
Take that bow tie engine out of it for a Mopar motor and I'd rock that for sure. There's just something wrong with putting a Chevy engine in a Mopar though.

For sure, But considering this was a stunt car, and it had a good chance of being destroyed i can see why they just threw a chevy in it, but that was 6 years ago, they had plenty of time to convert it  :lol:

Mike DC

 
It's probably still got the movie's Ford 9" rearend too.  But that doesn't seem to make everyone so annoyed. 

Kern Dog

I can see the reasoning for the generic mill. If the idiot mechanics are only familiar with one type of engine, and most of the stunt vehicles are equipped with that engine, they can stock 20 each of fuel pumps, alternators and starters and rarely see any down time. You can buy those GM 350s at Wal-Mart for $39.95, right?

d_saum

Quote from: Kern Dog on August 25, 2015, 10:46:49 PM
I can see the reasoning for the generic mill. If the idiot mechanics are only familiar with one type of engine, and most of the stunt vehicles are equipped with that engine, they can stock 20 each of fuel pumps, alternators and starters and rarely see any down time. You can buy those GM 350s at Wal-Mart for $39.95, right?

lol.. actually.. if you move the decimal place over a bit, you're right on target.  I'm not a big F&F fan, but they used Year One crate motors in all their cars (not just the stunt vehicles) just to keep the cost down and make it easy on themselves.

Mike DC

  
Q.  What motors would you use, if on-set delays were costing you $10,000 per hour?  

A.  Whatever is consistent & reliable.  Whatever you can repair, swap, and buy parts for, in a hurry.  This includes parts availability in foreign countries.  

They run a matching drivetrain in all their old american RWD stunt cars.  Chevy crate motor/trans, Ford 9" rear axle, Wilwood brakes, etc.



People think they bondo their stunt cars because they are cheap/lazy.  It's really because they are in a goddamn hurry.  They might buy $3000 worth of brand new repro sheetmetal and then end up slamming it all onto the car overnight using rivets & bondo.  

Cncguy

I'd put a mopar engine in it and a stock interior.

Mike DC

          
Stock interior?

Not on my watch.  It wouldn't fit the F&F vibe at all.  
Vinnie's onscreen car has never once had a stock interior.  It's been a lot of bare sheetmetal & aftermarket stuff in every movie.  

To us, this looks cheap.  To the rest of the world, it looks badass & racy.  Most people without car resto knowledge will assume that keeping the stock interior is the easy way.  



Mopar engine?  

Yeah I agree with that.  
Put a big blown gen-2 Hemi in there and make the car what it's always supposed to be.  
 

cbrestorations

ls3 and ford 9", cheap, lighter, all aluminum completely dressed crate engine making 430hp is only $6500. better handling for stunt scenes too. this is what they are using now for the fast and furious movies now anyway. the daytona was ls3, the new movie was ls3. imagine if the general lee had an ls3 in it, the charger wouldnt need 300-400lbs of ballast in the rear for jumps lol

cbrestorations

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on August 23, 2015, 11:13:31 PM
so.. Can anyone explain the bigass turn signal switch?  :scratchchin:

that bigass turn signal switch is actually a stand alone signal switch used for columns that had no turn signals. these cars were very basic and instead of taking the time to rewire the cars and replace worn out turn signal switches they just hose clamped these stand alone ones to the column

Mike DC

QuoteInsert Quote
ls3 and ford 9", cheap, lighter, all aluminum completely dressed crate engine making 430hp is only $6500. better handling for stunt scenes too. this is what they are using now for the fast and furious movies now anyway. the daytona was ls3, the new movie was ls3. imagine if the general lee had an ls3 in it, the charger wouldnt need 300-400lbs of ballast in the rear for jumps lol

Exactly.  The weight of the engine is a big deal when you're driving off the pavement or using the steering wheel.  That LS3 literally weighs less than a slant-6.    

$6500 . . . aarggh.  And Mopar, in their infinite laziness, still won't mass-produce an alloy block Hemi in anything.   Their Hemi muscle cars are pushing 4500 lbs.      



Quotethat bigass turn signal switch is actually a stand alone signal switch used for columns that had no turn signals. these cars were very basic and instead of taking the time to rewire the cars and replace worn out turn signal switches they just hose clamped these stand alone ones to the column

AFAIK that turn signal thing wasn't even there for the movie.  Probably just a post-movie addition to help legalize the car.

cbrestorations

i wish chrysler also produced and aluminum block in their performance cars, because $4k for a mopar aluminum block is just too pricey