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Started by d_saum, August 19, 2015, 08:15:39 PM

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d_saum

So where to start???  Well first things first.. Hello! I've been lurking here for a while and joined not too long ago, but this is my first actual post. So why am I here?  Welllllll.... on Monday I became the proud owner of a one owner, 1973 Charger 400 SE. It is quite literally a "barn find" that I found about a year and half ago at my tax lady's house in her back yard. Her husband is a "strictly Mopar" guy and has several Barracudas, 3 of which are showroom condition, and about 40 other vehicles strewn about the yard. Luckily, this one has been kept out of the elements in said barn ... or shed I suppose. It's been sitting for about 15 years but the body is in better shape than most cars half its age. The interior is in pretty good shape too, but I'm not a fan of the beige color so I'll be redoing it to make it more gooder. I've owned a 2012 Challenger that I loved but had to part with, and back in 2000, I had a brand new Dodge Ram 1500. What a great truck that was.. kind of wish I had kept it! But oh well..  So this is my new baby, and the toughest thing about it is going to be pacing myself and figuring out what to tackle first.  :-\

Dave :cheers:

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skip68

Welcome Dave.    :cheers:
That's a nice looking find you've got.   I think it looks gooder already for it's age and sitting in a barn for years.   Awesome score.   :2thumbs:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


XH29N0G

Ditto - Welcome - Nice looking car - We will all be interested in seeing more about it and it get fixed up.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

polywideblock

welcome to the site    :cheers:      looks like a good starting point    :yesnod:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Baldwinvette77

Nice car and welcome, First thing i would do is clean it  :lol: then make sure there isnt any "Roadside wiring repairs", pull the fuses for things you dont need right now, who knows if mice chewed up the wiring.  :rofl:


VegasCharger

Hello and Welcome :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Nice 73 SE  :cheers:

Looks very complete and for the most part unmolested. Lots of good info in here for sure.

My choice would be to go with triple black. My suggestion would be to keep the vinyl top/trim/opera window look intact unless you do a total conversion to the full rear quarter glass like the coupes have.

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

PlainfieldCharger

Welcome to the best forum on the internet for chargers. That looks like a great find. It looks like with little work you could get that road worthy.... :2thumbs:

303 Mopar

1968 Charger - 1970 Cuda - 1969 Sport Satellite Convertible

Ghoste


hemi68charger

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'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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BYB69

Welcome, and nice looking car!

EccentricMagpies

Nice
Car looks solid inside and out.
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

super77se

not too shabby for a legitimate barn find lol. the vinyl looks really good

FlatbackFanatic

Welcome! That ride looks like a nice start. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Flatback Fanatic, Kurt  , MN

1973rallye

Nice looking car. Assuming that's the original paint, it looks as if all you may have to deal with is some mechanicals.
1973 Rallye 440 4 speed
2016 Challenger r/t Shaker

nvrbdn

welcome to the club. any word yet on the engine and trans? looks pretty clean (except for the dirt)  :smilielol:

  if it ran, I'd shoot it with a hose, dust off the seats and cruise it.  :2thumbs:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Lennard

Welcome, looks like you bought a great car that doesn't take much to get ready to cruise. :2thumbs:

MxRacer855


d_saum

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Quote from: skip68 on August 19, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
Welcome Dave.    :cheers:
That's a nice looking find you've got.   I think it looks gooder already for it's age and sitting in a barn for years.   Awesome score.   :2thumbs:

Thanks!

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on August 19, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
Nice car and welcome, First thing i would do is clean it  :lol: then make sure there isnt any "Roadside wiring repairs", pull the fuses for things you dont need right now, who knows if mice chewed up the wiring.  :rofl:

Clean it? Why would I do that? I'd lose all that "Barn Patina"!  LOL.. just kidding. Thanks for the advice about the fuses.

Quote from: VegasCharger on August 20, 2015, 06:52:06 AM
Hello and Welcome :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Nice 73 SE  :cheers:

Looks very complete and for the most part unmolested. Lots of good info in here for sure.

My choice would be to go with triple black. My suggestion would be to keep the vinyl top/trim/opera window look intact unless you do a total conversion to the full rear quarter glass like the coupes have.

Thanks... and YES.. Black is exactly the color I was thinking. And also, I am planning on losing the vinyl and the opera windows. Do you happen to know what's involved in that conversion? Is it not just removing the opera panels?

Quote from: tan top on August 20, 2015, 07:07:57 AM
hello & welcome  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs:

Thanks!

Quote from: PlainfieldCharger on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 AM
Welcome to the best forum on the internet for chargers. That looks like a great find. It looks like with little work you could get that road worthy.... :2thumbs:

Thanks! Yeah, I'm hoping to get her on the road soon. I'm itching to driver her!  :yesnod:

Quote from: 303 Mopar on August 20, 2015, 07:30:18 AM
Welcome from CO!   :2thumbs:

Thanks!  What part of Colorado?  I used to live in the springs!

Quote from: Ghoste on August 20, 2015, 08:07:51 AM
Howdy!  :icon_smile_big:

Howdy back!  :cheers:

Quote from: hemi68charger on August 20, 2015, 08:21:27 AM
Welcome to the Board....  :2thumbs:

Thanks!  :cheers:

Quote from: BYB69 on August 20, 2015, 09:48:44 AM
Welcome, and nice looking car!

Thanks! I can't wait to make her even better looking.  :drool5:

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on August 21, 2015, 04:51:45 PM
Nice
Car looks solid inside and out.

Thanks. And yeah, She's very solid. No rot, floor pans and trunk are perfect. Great starting point.

Quote from: super77se on August 21, 2015, 06:21:57 PM
not too shabby for a legitimate barn find lol. the vinyl looks really good

Thanks!  And honestly.. that's part of the allure.. being able to say "I found it in a barn on some old man's property"   LOL.

Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on August 23, 2015, 12:22:28 AM
Welcome! That ride looks like a nice start. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Thanks! I agree.  :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: 1973rallye on August 23, 2015, 05:46:09 AM
Nice looking car. Assuming that's the original paint, it looks as if all you may have to deal with is some mechanicals.

Thanks. And yep.. that's the original paint.  :2thumbs:

Quote from: nvrbdn on August 23, 2015, 07:03:29 AM
welcome to the club. any word yet on the engine and trans? looks pretty clean (except for the dirt)  :smilielol:

  if it ran, I'd shoot it with a hose, dust off the seats and cruise it.  :2thumbs:

Thanks! And no, I haven't done anything with it yet as I'm still fighting with my schedule and coordinating everything.

Quote from: Lennard on August 23, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
Welcome, looks like you bought a great car that doesn't take much to get ready to cruise. :2thumbs:

Yeah, I'm hoping it won't take too much at all. I can't wait to get started!

Quote from: MxRacer855 on August 23, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
Welcome! You can do it!  :2thumbs:

Haha.. thanks! And thanks for the support! 

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67440chrg

Welcome it is a great looking car. Have fun.

ODZKing

Welcome Dave.  Looks like the color my interior was E6L3 ... looks like Parchment.
Great start, keep us up to date.
Where are you from?

d_saum

Quote from: ODZKing on August 24, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
Welcome Dave.  Looks like the color my interior was E6L3 ... looks like Parchment.
Great start, keep us up to date.
Where are you from?

Thanks! I'm originally from Long Island, but have traveled and lived around the country quite a bit before ending up in North Cack-a-lack.

archie360

Looks like a great start!  If it was mine I wouldn't be to concerned about color changes at this point.  More like getting her running and giving it a good scrubbing......  and posting more pics of course  ;)  
1971 SE 383HP     1972 Rallye 340

d_saum

Quote from: archie360 on August 24, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Looks like a great start.  Does the engine turn over?  Clean her up and post more pics please!

Thanks!  And I don't know for sure yet, but the old man said it should turn over. Since it's been sitting so long, I'm going to pull the plugs and squirt some magic juice in the cylinders and let them sit for a day or two before trying to spin the thing.

I finally got over to the old mans house today and was going to take the wheels off and go get some used meats on them just to get it rolling so I could haul it home. To my surprise, the guy said he had a set of wheels and tires that'd fit it that I could borrow until I get my new wheels. So in the broiling NC sun (even though most of the car was is the shade), I jacked it up and put the other wheels on it. A nice surprise was finding that the brakes were not locked up at all.  And man, oh man.. she looks even meaner sitting up on inflated tires as opposed to 3 flats and one rim!  Woot!!!  :coolgleamA:

I should have her towed home tomorrow, but I have a meeting in the middle of the afternoon. If not tomorrow, then definitely no later than Thursday.  :2thumbs:

VegasCharger

Quote from: d_saum on August 24, 2015, 02:46:42 AM

Thanks... and YES.. Black is exactly the color I was thinking. And also, I am planning on losing the vinyl and the opera windows. Do you happen to know what's involved in that conversion? Is it not just removing the opera panels?


Yes, if you want the standard roll down windows (non SE Chargers, see 1st pic below) you would need the assemblies and trim from a non SE Charger (2 door hardtop). SE opera windows are in a fixed position (don't roll down). For removal besides tearing off the vinyl and removing the louver panels, you would have to dig out the factory filler smoothed over the fiberglass window plug of the rear quarter window cutout area they used on the SEs (see 2nd and 3rd pic below). Also you would have to cutout a section of the door jambs to enable the quarter glass to roll up and down. And also you would either need to extend the roof drip rail or shave off the drip rail because the SE roof drip rail is a shorter run length than the hardtop one.

My suggestion is do one or the other (SE treatment or roll down hardtop) and NOT do what some others have attempted by removing the vinyl top but keeping the opera windows intact and then smoothed over with body filler. They rarely come out looking good with this plan (see 4th pic).

I know that there is a thread on this conversion somewhere in here but I couldn't find it. Someone might weigh in on this topic. I have more detail pics on the SE window plug removal procedure if you want them, there's actually hidden screws underneath the filler that attach the plug to the body.

Like others have said, you have more important priorities prior to tackle before taking this on first.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: