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Gerst Tubular Suspensions

Started by dukeboy_318, August 14, 2015, 03:06:00 PM

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dukeboy_318

I know this is for my dart, but he makes them for B bodies as well as E bodies.

Picked this up at Mopar Nationals Saturday.  I spent some time checking out the tubular k frame kits offered by a few companies.  I've heard good things about a relatively unheard off company out of Iowa called Gerst Tubular Suspensions. Ended up with a Gerst Tubular Suspension. 

So far, everyone I talked to personally that has one and is running one, can find nothing negative to say.  There are even some circle track and road race cars running this thing, talked to one of the owners/drivers over the weeked, nothing but rave reviews about it.

Thoughts so far, will update on install.   

This thing is built stout, I'd mount it on a tank.  And he's proud of it.  Said that if you can find a stronger unit, let him know, he'll make it even stronger.

Full IFS coil overs, Shocks are dual adjusting.

Ball joints are rebuildable and maintainable QA1 units.   Very nice

TIG welded and man do the welds look amazing.

If you're in the market for a tubular suspension kit, look up Gerst.  You wont be disappointed.  Plus, its almost half of an RMS and cheaper than a Hemidenny as well.



1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.

HPP

Unless he isusing thick wall tubing, I can't say there is anything outstanding about its initial apperance that would lead me to believe it is bullet proof. No gussets around upper ball joint, very little triangulation in the main cradle, minimal support for the upper coil over mount.  Also looks like M2 spindles so you have  any inherent issues with those parts under a 4000# car that you have with the AlterK.

Any specs on bump and ackerman? These are two areas that many aftermarket suspension tend to  significantly miss the mark on.

Mike DC

 
QuoteUnless he isusing thick wall tubing, I can't say there is anything outstanding about its initial apperance that would lead me to believe it is bullet proof. No gussets around upper ball joint, very little triangulation in the main cradle, minimal support for the upper coil over mount.  Also looks like M2 spindles so you have  any inherent issues with those parts under a 4000# car that you have with the AlterK.

IIRC the actual size of the bearing snout on the MII spindles was used on F-150 pickups at one point.  It's probably not any real-world failure risk as long as you get a set of MII spindles made of decent forged steel.  (The cast-iron repro spindles from China could give someone a very bad day.)

dukeboy_318

Quote from: HPP on August 14, 2015, 09:50:17 PM
Unless he isusing thick wall tubing, I can't say there is anything outstanding about its initial apperance that would lead me to believe it is bullet proof. No gussets around upper ball joint, very little triangulation in the main cradle, minimal support for the upper coil over mount.  Also looks like M2 spindles so you have  any inherent issues with those parts under a 4000# car that you have with the AlterK.

Any specs on bump and ackerman? These are two areas that many aftermarket suspension tend to  significantly miss the mark on.

It's 1/4 inch high tensile steel wall. The Alterkation is only 3/16 wall.

And yes, Mustang II spindels. I have forged ones.


I checked this set up.out for 6 months, comparing it amd others. He's got a great reputation with the circle track and road race guys, not a single negative review that I could find. But we'll see
1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.

dukeboy_318

Had a couple pms asking, so I thought I'd post this

3300 plus shipping for a basic kit with stock style brakes and a manual rack. you can upgrade from there to power steering, wilwood, sway bar etc.

Viking dual adjustable coil overs.


Yes, everything in the pictures is included in my kit. I opted for no brakes since I have a set of mustang 2 brakes in the shop from my dad's project. A kit like mine is 3050 plus shipping. Course bare, non powdercoated may be even cheaper than that.

Comparison: All data off respective company's websites and or flyers. Prices may have changed or whatever but this is the most recent i could find.

RMS ALterkation = with brakes: 5600 plus shipping without brakes: 4995.00 plus shipping

HDK= bare kit, no powder coatingno brakes, no spindels, no rack, no coil overs: 2800, add 100 for the rack, plus 600 in brakes plus 600 in coilovers, plus the spindels (price not listed on their website for spindels, so i didnt include that): 4100 plus shipping

GTS: Basic kit, everything but the brake kit. = 3050, basic kit with stock style brakes, 3300 plus shipping. The GTS kit comes with QA1 rebuildable and adjustable tension ball joints, viking dual adjustable coil overs and springs. Manual rack(upgradable to power), mustang 2 spindels, upper, lower control arms.

800 cheaper than the HDK and complete. and 2300 cheaper than RMS.
1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.